Apple did remove Parler from the App Store in the past due to lack of moderation. It did not end well for Parler. I don’t know how badly it has gotten over there on Twitter though. Is Twitter reaching the Parler level of toxicity yet?
Apple Is Holding the Final Nail for X’s Coffin
Submitted 1 year ago by Lanky_Pomegranate530@midwest.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-12-12/apple-is-holding-the-final-nail-for-x-s-coffin
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fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Musk just hsoted a space with Ramaswamy, Andrew Tate, Matt Gaetz, and someone else of that ilk iirc
How do you think that went down? My prejudice tells me it was probably racist and xenophobic AF and probably included some dog whistles
fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yikes. That’s a four horsemen of deplorables. What a horrible echo chamber of depravity.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thought Tate was in prison? And WTF would he do that for?
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Was that the one where Ramaswamy didn’t cut the mic to take a leak and some assistant had to beg him to turn it off himself because it couldn’t be muted by anyone else?
If so, I have to think the noise of someone pissing was probably the most consistently honest part of the entire event.
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Can we just fucking hold these people accountable already? Stop being afraid of taking them to task…especially when you’re one of the very few entities on the planet who have the resources to do so.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Are you seriously arguing for Elon Musk to be sensible?
The guy who believes Pizza gate is a real thing.
The guy who claimed he bought Twitter to save the earth, because it was controlled by a death cult.
The guy who believes Jews have a goal of exterminating white people.
The guy who believes advertisers are trying to extort him with money.
The guy who believes he shouldn’t be responsible when he manipulates Tesla stock.
That guy?PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I meant Apple, specifically their control over the App Store. We can hold more than one thing accountable, but this article was specifically referencing Apple and their App Store.
WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 1 year ago
Generally the reason why it is like this is because you know others have resources to do the same to you and you don't want to start a trend of doing that thing. Also, it's their leverage against the people it could be used against. You're asking an amoral group of individuals to act morally - that flies against everything they stand for.
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
That makes sense, sadly.
SamXavia@kbin.run 1 year ago
Just kill it please, People will be much better off on the Fediverse both mentally and to get away from bigots like Musk.
sour@kbin.social 1 year ago
can still be containment zone
wintermutehal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Probably joking, but I like this idea, let them have their own little shitty cesspool so we can have nice things elsewhere
Salvo@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Did you mean “echo chamber”?
The problem with restricting the nutbags to one platform with no one calling out their bullshit, Is that they start to believe their own lies.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
can still be containment zone
I thought that’s what “truth” social was
SamXavia@kbin.run 1 year ago
Yeah but rather it not become a breading ground for people like that with Elon's plans on adding dating into the mix.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
They probably won’t until they have their own alternative. It’s Apple, remember?
Though I haven’t heard of them making one, so maybe they are waiting for something to jump in with. Threads if it starts sucking less, BlueSky if it becomes popular. But not Fediverse.
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I’m not holding my breath here. People seem far too willing to put up with stuff they wouldn’t otherwise because it’s Twitter. Far too many news orgs still point people to Twitter accounts.
Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Even my favorite email newsletters and blog sites still point to twitter.
It’s kinda frustrating to click a link then immediately, a giant “log in to see more”.
MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve never even thought of Twitter’s reliance on App Stores. It’s hilarious how many hands you want as biting. It’s literally impossible to keep track of.
modifier@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Speaking as a former reddit mod still stoning for my sins, I can say with confidence that the answer to the question: “what would happen if a reddit mod had actual power that mattered?”
Is simply this: Elon Musk would happen.
Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 year ago
“Stoning for my sins” see, now this is how you get people excited about a religion.
modifier@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
It was a strange autocorrect at the time of writing, but I am properly stoned now so perhaps it was prophetic.
cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Were you a super mod? Why would you want to be a mod? Is it because your lacked enough control over your life so moderating gave you a sense of power you didn’t maintain in your own life?
modifier@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
If we’re doing a bit, it’s because all forms of pornography have lost their appeal for me after years of slapping myself silly in my landlady’s basement (who is yes my mom technically), and eventually I could only achieve an erection, much less climax, by acting as a capricious and temperamental God among the mere mortals cursed to find themselves under my power. But eventually even that wasn’t enough and I’ve since moved on to direct marketing in the crypto space.
If we’re being humans, it’s because a small community I was a part of, and for which I had some emotional skin in the game, needed help and I decided to give it a shot. I only ever did the one subreddit, and we never grew larger than… I don’t know 250k, and then I burned out and moved on.
snowe@programming.dev 1 year ago
Most people mod because they love a community and don’t want it to die. If it weren’t for mods the forums you are currently using would devolve into spam and hate speech immediately. Sure some mods are bad, some are terrible, but the majority are good.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A bit ironic that under any other circumstances people would be crying out about how Apple has too much power to censor and control apps among a large chunk of the population.
sir_reginald@lemmy.world 1 year ago
that’s a totally fair claim. This time it’s “okay” because the far right is being banned. But we shouldn’t let that distract us from the fact that two private mega corporations can censor any social media or journal they want.
(they would only be banning the app and not the actual website, but so many tech illiterate people can’t tell the difference)
Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I just reported the app in the store for hateful content.
ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What do you mean by “hateful content” there’s alot of “hateful content” on lemmy and various other social medias. “hateful content” is one of the most vague definitions I’ve ever seen in my life
Way im interpreting and seeing it Is that its just that as soon as you see someone you don’t agree with politically then you interpret there words as “hateful content” is this correct?
I personally would make a case for there being alot of misinformation on twitter but same applies for most other social medias as well… you can find bountiful amounts of misinformation on lemmy mastodon reddit Facebook Instagram essentially if it has a userbase there’s a good chance some misinformation has been spread on there it’s the internet people like to lie on the internet all the time whenever to prove a point gain internet points or get better exposure
Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I’m not a fan of absolute relativism, to put it mildly. There are objective standards for hateful content. Alex Jones has been convicted of malicious defamation, for one example.
poopkins@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lemmy is moderated, however. It goes against the community code of conduct to post hateful things, and in contrast to Twitter, Lemmy is not a platform that gives a high degree of visibility to individual submissions that outright violate such a code.
Uglyhead@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Cue Phony Stark making his own X Phone.
modifier@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Doubtful. I don’t think he wanted Twitter any more than Trump actually wanted to be president the first time around.
I think he wanted to fuck with them to tank their stock for the lolz and he got himself harnessed to them like a dumb ass, and now he’s killing it as artlessly as he acquired it.
Uglyhead@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He made the claim back in 2022
Granted, still doesn’t mean anything exactly.
Although, it would make the most sense for him if Xitter got banned. He could have all of his shitcoin financial doings on there, and have Grok as its AI assistant. Truth Social built right in, Alex Jones built in, Cucker Tarlson content built in; all that. Instead of having everything China has all in one app, just put it all on the X phone.
The Far Right would buy them in droves and droves.
suction@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He’ll just buy some Chinese OEM phone and slap the dumb logo on it. And his audience of moronic fans erupts…
Salvo@aussie.zone 1 year ago
It would be very similar to the Wayne Industries mobile phones from The Dark Night, listening to everything and building a database.
clearedtoland@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I could see either of these things happening:
- Musk pouts and (laughably) threatens to build a better Apple.
- Musk says he’ll buy Apple. Fails hilariously.
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You do realize Elon and Steve Jobs share more traits than don’t? If he owned Apple it would actually work pretty well I’d think.
AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The only reason we think so highly of Jobs is he died before social media
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Haha I have no love for Apple but musk would immediately tank it. His first decree on day one as ceo would be that all apps in the apple store would have to make fart noises when you open them
breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 year ago
With the reinstatement of Alex Jones on X this week, Elon Musk is playing with fire. Precedent suggests X is teetering on the brink of a ban for violating Malus Inc.’s App Store rules, which would be the final nail in the coffin for the platform formerly known as Twitter. Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook will be watching closely and hoping desperately it doesn’t come to that.
Jones reappeared on X over the weekend, brought back by Musk after polling his followers. His return comes five years after Jones’ mix of chaotic and toxic misinformation and hatred was deemed too much for Twitter and several other tech platforms. In the time since, Jones has mostly faded from the mainstream, only making the news when a judge ordered him to pay $1.5 billion to the families of children murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012. Jones had claimed the massacre was a staged plot using actors.
Is this seriously the entire article? Wow…
Why would Tim Cook be concerned about banning Twitter?
thoughts3rased@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Because of the potential fallout that would happen if they did. Apple doesn’t want to ban one of their key apps, it would be like banning Facebook. The app ecosystem is a key part of any mobile OS’ appeal, it’s exactly why the Windows Phone failed. Apple doesn’t want to lose users to Android which will have twitter even if it’s banned through side loading. It’s just too popular of an app, even if it’s a complete shit hole.
coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s like ripping a bandaid.
firecat@kbin.social 1 year ago
Someone should make an app that post Alex Jones tweets. Nothing else either, no fancy U.I either, just text messages matching tweets from twitter. If Apple banned the app or never released it, the developer could in theory sue Apple because they aren’t doing anything to prevent it on twitter.
kirklennon@kbin.social 1 year ago
Such an app would violate the App Store rules:
4.2 Minimum Functionality: Your app should include features, content, and UI that elevate it beyond a repackaged website. If your app is not particularly useful, unique, or “app-like,” it doesn’t belong on the App Store.
Alto@kbin.social 1 year ago
Probably a pretty big grey area, considering how many mobile websites are for all intents and purposes an app. I'm sure you'd be able to do it with some minimal added "functionality" to satisfy the requirements.
firecat@kbin.social 1 year ago
Ok fine, adds public tracking of all Alex Jones court cases and money laundering.
Dio@lemy.lol 1 year ago
Doubtful.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 year ago
X marked the spot
ArugulaZ@kbin.social 1 year ago
Hold it in place, Tim, and I'll get my hammer.
kaitco@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’d love this. Musk doesn’t have the money to buy Apple and do to it what he did with Twitter.
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Come on Tim Apple. Do it. You know it’s the right thing to do
Actually, with Google recently losing in court where Apple had previously won because Google was exempting some developers from its App Store rules; Apple might be actually inclined to actually enforce its rules in X’s case lest they suffer the same fate
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Tim Appleis like the only positive thing that came out of Trump’s mouth/presidency, except forWashedOver@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Former President Drink Bleach was a source of many quips or words, good words for those reading along at a 4th grade level…
foggy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Idk man.
Trump was easily the most comedically entertaining president. Like, not in a good way. Like, cofveve or whatever wtf?
I’ll present you with Shane Gillie doing a bit
SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Meatball Ron is pretty funny. Normally his nicknames for people are fucking stupid.
atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Covfefe has been a pretty fun word, as well as referring to “Mooch” as a unit of time.
DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Very stable brain
gregorum@lemm.ee 1 year ago
While you may be right, it’s more likely to be the optics of being associated to this… person that will be the deciding factor.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 year ago
LOL Apple doesn’t give a single shit about “the right thing to do”, all they care about is money, and Apple is happy to not whack that hornet’s nest that’s actively stuffing their pockets, meanwhile they can continue to (rightfully) blame Twitter for what happens on Twitter.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Apple doesn’t give exemptions, it’s just a carte blanche ban