Once the Miserables found themselves outvoted in the Estates General of 1789 by about 3% of the population (the ones with money), it became very uncomfortable in France for aristocrats.
Just saying,
Really shows where their priorities are, doesn't it?
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uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
jelloeater85@lemmy.world 1 year ago
American’s don’t have the drive or the energy to care. We willingly lost 40 years ago.
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Not willingly. What can I do I got work tomorrow
snownyte@kbin.social 1 year ago
And we'll continue to lose, willingly. Even in an era where our favorite junk food prices are rising, we're being nickel and dimed over subscription services and everything. As long as they aren't coming to rip us away from our comfy beds or couches, we're fine. Oh wait, they've been doing that with escalating prices of rent.
I guess we'll all just go and die then because at least in the afterlife, no corporate or governmental finger can touch death to influence capitalism on.
Squirrel@thelemmy.club 1 year ago
You see, this impacts them. Never mind that there’s no actual impact, they only want those among them who behave as expected. Also, he got excessive attention due to his attire, which gave him a bigger audience for his political views.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So youre saying that things need to impact these people?
zakobjoa@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Only very small things though. A few millimetres at most.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Also, he got excessive attention due to his attire, which gave him a bigger audience for his political views.
Not necessarily.
People who disagree with his dress attire may not care to pay attention to his message/opinions (ex.: “This guy’s a joke, I’m not listening to him”).
Squirrel@thelemmy.club 1 year ago
Those who dismiss him because of his attire would, most likely, not listen to him, regardless. It’s the others, who otherwise would know nothing of this man or his policies, who may be swayed in some way.
EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As someone who agrees with his dress style It shows that he’s young and different And the uproar against his style made me interested in him as a person
*Btw this is the first time I’ve heard about it and strictly on first impressions
diskmaster23@lemmy.one 1 year ago
You think they listen to Bernie Sanders?
xantoxis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They don’t have “priorities”. They just don’t want to govern. They don’t want there to be a government. Every action they take is consistent with “undermine the concept of government”.
Any action that actually helped people would be governing. They don’t want to do that. It’s not priorities; if it were priorities, the Republican party would occasionally run the pool of abuse dry and be left with positive changes they could make, and then they’d work on those briefly until the bullshit-laws queue filled back up.
But that never happens, because it’s not priorities. It’s just being the opposite of whatever you think government is.
This country is full of people being governed who want a government, but they don’t understand that there’s an entire party that doesn’t want that.
rchive@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They just don’t want to govern.
Yes. They want paychecks without work, responsibility, or blame.
They don’t want there to be a government.
No. I see no evidence of that. Every chance people get to raise military or police spending or make up new laws to restrict people’s choices, they take it.
Mehphomet@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The problem with that train of thought is that they were already rich when they got the job. Many of them actually spend more to get the job than the job even pays. They aren’t there for the pay, they are there for the power plays. Once you get in you know people, people mainly help those they are close to. Money is a means to an end (and integral to the storage process ) but it’s all about power and connections. Why else would someone pay $1M of their own money for a 50/50 shot at a job that pays $1.2M over 4 years?
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
“It’s called consolidation. Strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals.”
If you get the reference, you are a champ in my book.
cricket97@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Would love to see some bipartisan support for banning congress members from trading stocks. Both sides are doing it to such a degree that they are more likely to be replaced before any legislation regarding this gets passed. Obligatory Nancy Pelosi Stock Tracker link: twitter.com/PelosiTracker_/
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Nancy Pelosi gets a bad rap, but she’s actually not one of the most successful traders in congress. Of the 26 traders in Congress who beat the S&P 500 in 2022, Nancy was not one of them.
She also doesn’t actually trade any stocks. She married a man in college who now owns a brokerage. To ban her from owning stock trades would be the same as asking her to divorce her husband or be removed from office.
One of the biggest controversies she’s ever been in was when VISA lobbied her and made meetings with her before an influential vote, at which point her husband bought large shares in VISA, and then she…
voted against VISA’s interests anyways…
The best part of all this is Paul Pelosi still made money selling the shares because society as a whole has duped itself into thinking following Pelosi is the ultimate grift for decades now. The fact is that we only even know about their trades because of legislature that Pelosi helped pass in the first place.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Of the 26 traders in Congress who beat the S&P 500 in 2022, Nancy was not one of them.
We only started tracking trades in 2021. Pelosi has been in office since the 1987 and her husband’s venture capital firm Financial Leasing Services, Inc. is the primary reason for the family’s $115M household valuation. A big part of the FLS holdings is sports venue real estate. And a big part of the profitability of that real estate stems from city, state, and federal grant money. So… shrug
But no, this isn’t just Nancy Pelosi personally getting in on the ground floor of Facebook, Google, or Amazon, back before they were major recipients of NSA money for data collections and warehousing.
pandacoder@lemmy.world 1 year ago
or be removed from office
I wouldn’t complain if this happened without needing this kind of legislation.
That said I do agree that people like her would be in a pickle and I don’t think it should necessarily be straight banned, but instead politicians in her situation and their closest associated people should have their trades regularly audited for insider trading.
Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Formal dress codes are upper class by aesthetics. Its just another little bite of compliance that one is expected to take before joining those in power.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
It is funny and sad how many ways of getting ahead in society can be interpreted as testing your tolerance for bullshit.
spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Okay. All those fat old men (on both sides) wearing I’ll fitting suits should be expelled from houses or government until they wear a fitted suit. Same with the women.
eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Their priorities are “fuck you got mine”
m3t00@lemmy.world 1 year ago
need a retirement age for all public employees. I mean let them get paid to do nothing where we don’t have to listen to them pretending to do serious stuff.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m old enough to remember when China raised the mandatory retirement cap from 70 to 75 and American journalists lost their fucking minds, insisting that President Xi (who turned 71 in the '23 election cycle) had committed some kind of unconstitutional legislative coup de tat.
A few months later, Dianne Feinstein died in office at age 90 and we were all told to celebrate how democratically her final two terms in office had shaken out.
m3t00@lemmy.world 1 year ago
wonder what chinese get per month at retirement. I’m guessing I’ll end up w/ about $3k/month before deductions, from SS.
m3t00@lemmy.world 1 year ago
died in office big can o’worms that www.google.com/search?q=died+in+office
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean they kinda always had it out for hoodies.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Ever since that one congressman wore one to protest the treatment of black kids by the police for wearing them.
TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They put up a dress code, then one of their own rocks up wearing denim dungarees.
TheBat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That dude looks like he exclusively fucks other people’s wives and husbands.
Based.
badbytes@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oligarchy at it’s finest
Akareth@lemmy.world 1 year ago
at its* finest
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
And where is the public uproar about this? I only hear crickets.
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 year ago
There are laws against insider trading not only in general but also specifically for Congressmen. Also, there have been bills to raise the federal minimum wage, including an attempt to add it into the stimulus bill in 2021 as a $15 Minimum Wage.
People like to ask “WhY iS noBOdY DoInG SoMEtHInG?!” while completely ignoring that one party consistently is trying but we never give them enough seats in the senate to actually do it.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And where is the public uproar about this?
We’ve had crowds in the street protesting social injustice practically every year since the Seattle WTO riots of the 1990s. If you haven’t seen a public outcry, you haven’t been paying attention.
The problem is that the outcries are fractured, the movements regularly subverted by a combination of con-artists and police, and a lot of the mass media ideology poisons people against one another by ethnicity, religion, gender, and locale. Folks who can all agree that the Sacklers deserve a long drop from a short rope will scream invective at one another because one of them showed up wearing a BLM t-shirt and the other finds it offensive. Folks who all agree de-industrialization was a nightmare for the midwest will tear each others eyes out over the abortion debate.
I don’t think anyone is hearing crickets. More that we’re trying to hear a finely tuned orchestra under the sound of exploding bombs.
the_q@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You wanna know why freedom of speech and freedom of assembly are legal and encouraged? Because it does nothing. The American revolution wasn’t a sit-in.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yup.
Hence why I acknowledge the power of the Marsha P. Johnson brickthrowing wing of social advocacy.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Nah, revolution is what happens when protests are prohibited
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The uproar is… we’re powerless.
Yokozuna@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Look, I’m all for raising the minimum wage, and if it ever comes across the ballot I would always vote yes. But this is such a shit take, of fucking course dress code is easier to deal with than the economics of the whole country. If you’re going to critique the government, make sense at least.
Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I see your point and still agree with the OP. All this dress code did was make them look like fools and children.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Honestly, that is all dress codes other than the ones only covering common sense choices (e.g. no bikinis in the restaurant or no loose clothing around machinery) ever do.
eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fuck’s sake, we don’t pay these cunts for theatrics and the resolution of trivial matters that they deem to be problems. They could all wear fucking jeans and a t-shirt for all I give a shit. These assholes are OUR EMPLOYEES, and they’ve been fucking us over since time immemorial. Yeah, no fucking problem - it’s $1M+ for any old shit box in much of the country; half of the fucking cunts are authoritarians who are nakedly trying to take away our rights; economic stratification is worse than ever; 2nd in line to the Prez believes in fucking fairy tales and wants to subjugate everyone who doesn’t; I could go on ad infinitum, but no, let’s fucking worry about the clothes these fucking cunts have on, yeah?
Mehphomet@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It was easy because nobody added any other bullshit to it. Do you think it would have passed that easy if the democrats insisted it include funding for planned parenthood? Or if the republicans would only allow it to come to a vote if it included a ban on funding Ukrainians? The minimum wage hasn’t changed this millennium, this isn’t hard until they make it hard. You want to make it easy? Here it is, make the minimum wage match the minimum cost to live in in each jurisdiction, updated every 10 years with ( and by) the national census. If you can impose a fine you are a jurisdiction and it is your responsibility to implement. Done, next issue.
Tranus@programming.dev 1 year ago
That solution isn’t really a solution.
The minimum cost to live in each jurisdiction
There is no clear objective way to measure that. The absolute minimum to stay alive would technically be just enough for the single cheapest available food, and just enough water to avoid death (maybe not even that, if it’s legal to just drink out of a river). I’m sure that’s not what you meant. But anything beyond that has to consider the incredibly subjective quality of life question. So what you propose is really just a goal, not an actionable policy.
If you can impose a fine you are a jurisdiction and it is your responsibility to implement
That’s a way bigger headache than I think you realize. At any location in the country, you could be fined by the federal gov, state gov, other states if you do business there, multiple levels of local gov (county, city, etc.), even your HOA might be able to fine you. But that all depends on thousands of existing laws and precedents.
mob@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Yeah, I hate how normalized these shit comparisons are for arguments.
One effects a few hundred people and doesn’t really have much depth to it and is relatively inconsequential . One is extremely complicated involve a large percentage of Americans lives.
It’s like saying “Oh look, Biden had time to make a Truth Social account but not stop the war in Gaza. Wtf”
I am not putting any opinions on anything besides how disparate comparisons have become…but the fact that these type comparisons are constantly repeated online does reflect a lot on Internet culture.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 1 year ago
any publicity is good publicity and maybe he can use this platform to get his messages across
NABDad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Mel Brooks said it best.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Actually George W Bush was the last person to raise the minimum wage. That’s the second Bush for anyone who might not know.
Obama did nothing with it.
Taringano@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Thanks Obama
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/…/minimum-wage
Obama issued an executive order to raise the wages of federal contractors to a minimum of $12.15/hr after the Pelosi/Schumer Congress fumbled the ball. Biden was reluctantly unopposed to signing a $15/min national bill, until the Manchin/Sinema Senate quashed it back in '21.
And it should be noted that the Min Wage hike Bush signed was only on his desk when Pelosi stapled it to the Bank Bailout of '08.
So this isn’t a Dem/Rep thing, so much as it is a particular moment of convenience when certain progressive politicians can choose to exert leverage over their more conservative colleagues.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Pelosi/Schumer Congress fumbled the ball. Biden was reluctantly unopposed to signing a $15/min national bill, until the Manchin/Sinema Senate quashed it back in '21.
Of course Pelosi and Schumer “fumbled” it…that’s because that’s what they really wanted. And Biden, even though he said he would do that, he won’t.
When Biden was running in the primary, he said outright that he’d veto medicare for all if it ever got to his desk. Does that sound like someone who would raise wages?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Obama did nothing with it.
And he had a supermajority for a time, which makes his inaction that much worse.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
YES! And people still brainlessly say over and over “best president of my lifetime” about a guy that deported more immigrants than any other president combined, more than Trump, Obama was the one who started putting kids in cages, Obama that pretended Flint Michigan’s water was fine, Obama allowed fracking to happen, which caused tap water in many places to become flammable. Obama took us from two illegal wars against countries that never attacked us up to at least 7. His drone bombings killed 90% civilians and those drone bombings were so frequent that they ran out of bombs for the drones.
Yes you read that right! The US military, which gets a bigger budget every year perpetually…ran out of one of their ammunitions, because they used it that much.
And under Trump, Pelosi and Schumer went out of their way to make sure the Trump administration got an even bigger military budget increase than they were even asking for TWICE!
Pelosi “TRUMP! With you! All roads lead to Putin! Now have a bigger military budget YOU RUSSIAN SCUM!”
Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Looking presentable is a priority no? I mean they’re not dressed like British barristers, but I also think showing up to a legislature in a hoodie and shorts is trashy
superbirra@lemmy.world 1 year ago
looks like silly benaltrism which defeat twice our hoodie man.
yote_zip@pawb.social 1 year ago
“If you don’t wear Special Clothes around me I’m going to lose it.”
When are we going to move past costuming for work?
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
The only costume I wanna wear for work is a mascot costume for a sports team that named themselves after an animal.
TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s ok to admit you’re a furry on the Internet. We run the damn thing, after all
Kalkaline@leminal.space 1 year ago
Classic lemmy
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Best I can do is racist caricature
clearedtoland@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nonsense ideology that dates back to medieval times. I subscribed to it for years until I realized it had no bearing on my work. I tell my interns and staff “dress appropriately,” meaning be comfortable - unless we’re meeting with clients, whose expectations may not align.
rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Dress codes serve as class signifiers. Like most rules of decorum, they’re cultural artifacts used to delineate the haves from the have-nots. They don’t dislike the fact that Fetterman refuses to wear a suit. They dislike the fact that he dresses like the people the common people he actually represents. Whereas they dress like the people they represent - capitalist oligarchs. They’re wanting to close ranks and keep people from realizing that not everyone in the senate serves the same masters.
PlatinumSf@pawb.social 1 year ago
Isn’t the logic that it’s an easy thing to use as a sign of conformance? A check to see if you’re willing to compromise your personal choices for the groups mandate?
eezeebee@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
People with their little collars and jackets and ties to make them feel important
STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Probably never. People will always judge others based on how they are dressed. We subconsciously attach a certain image of what people should look like. And these dress codes are often enforced by society indirectly. 99% of people would not want to have a lawyer dressed casually to court and will pick someone else even if the alternative is by all accounts not as good as the casually dressed lawyer.
Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Thats right. I judge them by how they are dressed. Fetterman is a working class american, and the others are my enemy.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I’d be happy to have a lawyer in casual attire if it wouldn’t bias the judge and jury against me.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
My knee jerk reaction to seeing anyone in a suit is “Asshole”.
Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I feel like there some that do and most that don’t but the some that do are such cunts they try to force the most of us to do what they want
diskmaster23@lemmy.one 1 year ago
Time to dress up like it’s 1799.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 1 year ago
I never got what the tie (leash) is for. Probably a reminder of a dog leash, to remind themself that they are dogs.