Spotify re-invented the radio

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• Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Try this instead

  github.com/yaronzz/Tidal-Media-Downloader

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  • alphacyberranger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This looks good. I’ll try it later this week.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I tried it free once, and found it generally unusable.

  Like it was filled with annoying adverts, but it wasn’t adverts for other people. It was adverts for itself. All overly chipper voice actors going “Wow, is it true that Spotify Premium is just £9.99 a month?” as if that’s how anybody has ever talked in the history of humankind.

  The free version is funded by paying customers. The only purpose it has is to annoy you into paying.

  I was happy to use Amazon Prime’s version for a bit, and then they decided that merely paying for Prime wasn’t enough, and I had to pay special extra fees to listen to albums. So I got Spotify instead, because fuck giving more money to Amazon.

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  • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah for a few months there I was starting to like the Amazon player too and then they made it worse for more money and I realized… I am so done with Amazon and paying them $180 a year for barely getting things shipped from them, a weird mess of a video player and radio.

    I actually have YouTube premium because at least it helps me get rid of the onslaught of YouTube ads and helps pay my creators of choice slightly better, and the music player is I guess just basically YouTube which isn’t that bad. Not perfect but not bad.

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      For a company worth over a trillion dollars, there’s this unmistakable layer of couldn’t-give-a-fuckness to all their products.

      From a store that ships blatantly fake products, through the video service that misses subtitles on like half the movies, or looks like it’s been transferred from a well used VHS, to the music service that used to let you listen to full albums, but on playing you notice that a bunch of tracks are missing from it.

      And the race to the bottom ain’t even over yet.

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  • BaardFigur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hi. I’m Jonathan from Spotify

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• not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  All I have to say is:

  • spotube
  • revanced
  • modded Pandora

  Haven’t paid shit in like 10 years and I try to download the songs I like for my self hosting.

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  • joystick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just checked out spotube and that’s exactly what I wanted. Spotify recommendations using YouTube as the audio source. Very cool recommendation.

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    • not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It really is. It had it’s hiccups but works and you get piped video source of the song in the info tab.

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  • SaladevX@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Holy shit I forgot Pandora existed

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• PixxlMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just listen to the radio then instead of complaining here?

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  • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I thought complaining about corporate greed was the guise under which we here on Lemmy collectively demanded everything we want for free?

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• workinkindofhard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My biggest issue with Spotify was that they were changing the main screen layout what seemed like every other week. Like bro I don’t do podcasts so keep them off my homepage.

  I ended up canceling and going to Apple Music because we were already paying for their other services and it was cheaper with their bundled membership. I also have a Plexamp server with all of the music I have ripped over the years and actually prefer that to Apple Music

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• Darken@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Next update will show text lyrics in free version. If you want to play the audio you better have premium

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  • _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Now with text lyrics!^[1]^

    [1] - Additional fees apply

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• spiderkle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  shitify?

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• Player2@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Spotify is very easy to crack, at least on Android

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  • haych@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Even cracked I didn’t like it, I swapped to YT Music ReVanced. The Spotify algorithm used to be good for me but lately it kinda sucked.

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    • WereBearGareBear@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      YMusic

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• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Spotify kind of sucks. I’ve been using Bandcamp for years (though they sold to epic and then got sold to some vultures, so they might be doomed)

  If I buy one album a month for a year, that’s about the same as a subscription except I get to keep what I bought. And after a few years I have a big library and don’t need to buy as much. And the musicians get a bigger cut.

  If you’re listening to stuff that’s not on Bandcamp I don’t know what to tell you. Probably buy it from elsewhere, or if it’s old just pirate it because it should be public domain anyway.

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  • theragu40@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is your rationale and that is ok for you. Ownership is important to you. That is ok. But people who make the point you are making never understand the point those of us who like Spotify are making.

    We do not care that we don’t own anything after paying. I am not paying to own it. Never felt like I was, never felt like I needed to. In fact, it’s almost a perk that I don’t because then I am not sitting amidst towers of CDs (something that was definitely possible if I had continued my pre-spotify trajectory). Anyway, I pay for access. No more, no less. I pay for access to Spotify’s library, which is many orders of magnitude larger than anything I could ever hope to amass myself, even if I was pirating shit.

    I want to listen to whatever I want, whenever I want, instantly. I don’t want to go pirate it, I don’t want to go find it at a store, if someone suggests me a song or album or artist I want to go listen to it right now. Spotify enables that. I have discovered so much music I would absolutely never have tried without Spotify.

    And again, I am 100% comfortable paying for access to something not owned by me. I’m a member at our local zoo. I don’t expect to own the animals, I pay to just to get in. I’m a member at our museum. I don’t feel like I should own the artifacts, I pay for the privilege of seeing them. I am a member at a community pool. I don’t own the water, I pay to get in, and have someone else handle all the hassle of maintaining that pool.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks for a well written reply. I’m glad that you have a model that works for you. I’m bummed that I don’t think Spotify really does right by the artists (and other issues with them). I guess in your analogy that would be a zoo mistreating the animals? Not the best metaphor I’ll have to think more on how to work that.

      I also really want more people to consider other options. A lot of people I don’t think really consider that they could buy instead of rent. I’m confident there are many people who listen to like five albums and are paying Spotify for that every month.

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    • ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      For me, another benefit of Spotify is the music recommendations. I have found a lot of music that I would never have found without letting Spotify just recommend things after an album or playlist has finished. Finding new music is something I have a hard time with on my own.

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  • FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Product X sucks because I use Product Y. If you like something else just steal it.” Bout sums it up.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s not how the “because” was in my original post. Spotify sucks because it’s renting, they don’t pay artists very much, they (as far as I recall) platform some awful people. Probably other reasons I can’t think of right now, too. Other alternatives such as Bandcamp address that problem.

      The point about piracy and public domain is somewhat related but you didn’t really engage with that.

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  • 0ops@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I feel like we have different definitions of “big library”. I listen to dozens of new albums a year.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m sincerely curious what your music habits are like. With 36 albums a year, how much time are you spending with any of them? Do you ever go back to listen again?

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  • CarlsIII@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If I buy one album a month for a year, that’s about the same as a subscription except I get to keep what I bought.

    That would mean you only get to listen to one new album each month. And getting to keep the album only matters if you eventually stop paying, but then you won’t get to add any new albums to your library until you pay for another one.

    Spotify has provided me access to so much music, it’s incredible. I will never be able to go back to such a limited library after being able to experience the ability to listen to almost any music I want whenever I want.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe this is more idiosyncratic for me, but I don’t find that much new music I like every month.

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• spark947@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So ots pandora now?

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  • Ibex0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Funny, this is a summary of what I didn’t like about Pandora.

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    • spark947@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I know, it’s pretty silly and very dishonest. I just find it so bizarre that the boundaries of what these finances can provide are drawn around these lines. Skipping songs was “profitable” 1 week ago, but now it isn’t? It is very goofy.

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• meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I remember when it was a literal radio feature in Spotify and it was this but the algorithm was decent and you could curate different stations.

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  • raptir@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why did they get rid of Spotify Stations? Like I’m about to subscribe to Pandora to get this back but 128kbps.

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    • Grimace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They got rid of spotify stations but you can make a “radio” playlist from any song or other playing. Not as good still but better than nothing I guess

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    • Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because money.

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    • meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Never heard of stations before today, wish I got a chance to try it though. Looks like it came out just after they removed the radio feature from the main app. Damn…

      I tried Pandora, I think for a year or two. It’s alright but after a while I started falling into the same artist bubbles I experienced with post-radio Spotify. It’s owned by Sirius which isn’t doing so well (and I can’t stand their marketing practices) so I can’t imagine they’ve got as much resources to devote as Spotify. The app is a little buggy and rudimentary but not completely lacking polish.

      The behavior when your Internet drops out (like if you happen to go driving out in the sticks) leaves a lot to be desired, but you can save playlists so it’s not a huge deal. There’s this one live version of a song that just does not want to stay deleted from my playlist. Oh, and you can’t use it outside of North America without a VPN. It’s little stuff, it’s not experience-breaking for the most part.

      I do like that you switch between different algorithms for a radio station. Something like “fan favorites”, “artist only”, “deep cuts”, maybe one or two more options. It’s overall not a bad alternative, the bad parts obviously stick in my head better than the good but I’d probably still be using it weren’t for my European friends all using Spotify and sharing songs/playlists with me like that.

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• DieguiTux8623@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t mind having ads while listening to plain radio. But on Spotify there were more ars than songs lately, so they forced me to buy a subscription. They did not reinvent the radio, they made it worse.

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  • DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    on Spotify there were more ars than songs lately, so they forced me to buy a subscription

    Aah, so their tactic is working 100% as intended.

    But they didn’t force you to do anything, you willingly chose to reward them for their shitty method instead of ditching them because of it.

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    • 2ncs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So are limited free demos a shitty method because you then have to pay to get the full experience? I don’t understand why people are so upset that the free experience gets worse, economically it makes sense and any company would do it. They do not need to offer a free service at all, but they do it to help cultivate a premium user base. It’s pretty consumer friendly they offer a free version to let you make sure you want to use Spotify before you pay. I just don’t think offering a free product to entice paying for the full thing is a “shitty method”.

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• Cipher22@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How is non-premium different from normal radio?

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  • winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think that’s the joke

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  • unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You pay for the data to reach you

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  • mayo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    radio tries retain listeners and spotify free tries to annoy listeners

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    • dogebread@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Radio does?! Wow, last I had it on the three pop songs on repeat surrounded by an annoying personality and tons of ads gave me the wrong idea.

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  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think the free version is just what the free pandora was years ago. Maybe I am missing something there.

    Pandora had one thing Spotify didn’t have though, and that was “bad,” but good for me. Pandora could play at a lower bitrate, so I could get it to work without skipping on long drives or in low reception areas easier.

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    • FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The suggested songs on Pandora are way better than Spotify IMO.

      Spotify’s web client is garbage too, I used to subscribe but cancelled years ago.

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  • Squirrel@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Easier to find the perfect station for you?

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  • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Shh don’t question the rage bait you’ll wake the others

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• AzuleBlade@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If you’re using Android, check out xmanager. It’s basically a free cracked version of Spotify Premium.

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  • AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lmao that website is terrible. Doesn’t even tell anything what the app does just gives a link to apk in github. Also github page doesn’t explain anything.

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    • alldreadme@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It doesn’t, but that’s where most of the Spotify mods come from. The app will let you download the modded versions of Spotify.

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• zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fuck Spotify, tidal is the way.

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  • Aatube@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Isn't tidal's free plan only slightly better?

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    • zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh I have no idea I went straight to the paid plan since I was leaving Spotify’s paid plan. I probably should have stayed out of this one.

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• UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  xmanager

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• poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is completely unacceptable. I’m paying nothing and I want more from the service or else I’m taking my freeloading ass elsewhere! If all you other cheap bastards join me, collectively we’ll show these corporate bigwigs and they’ll be on their knees for our unpaid usage to return.

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  • yuunikki@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    [deleted]

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    • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Let me get this straight: you’re taking pride in bootlegging content? How can you just laugh about shamelessly stealing from artists you like?

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    • DancingIsForbidden@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have a solution for Linux, but what can you do on a mobile os? is there like an unofficial android .apk somewhere?

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• mcribbs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Seems I’ve picked the perfect time to get back into Mini-disc!

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• TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Xmanager

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  • Tom_bishop@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If this got too famous, it’ll be shutdown. Shut your trap

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  • camr_on@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Xmanager

    what is this?

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    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      letmegooglethat.com/?q=Xmanager

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• LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  One think that idgaf about paying for is Spotify or any music streaming service. We use a family plan anyway but even full price isn’t great value for money.

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  • Aatube@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s the price of a single/couple CDs and you get access to almost every single music

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    • Blackout@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Jesus Christ these people are delusional? What do they want? Eminem to come sing to them in the shower because that's the only way $10/no is worth it?

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    • LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ahh, I said isn’t but meant is. Completely changed my point didn’t it.

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• makyo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I really got tired of them adding ads to podcasts - just felt like a real insult to paying users. So I hopped ship. There are apps that make it relatively simple to export your data to a new service.

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  • UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait… theres ads on podcasts even as a premium subscriber?

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    • makyo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yea, this is in addition to the ads that the podcast themselves bake in to their recording, IE dynamically added. Really blatant disregard for their paying customers.

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• BaardFigur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I remember the last time they did this. Then they backtracked. I guess they backtracked on the backtrack

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  • CompanionCrow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sorry, backtracking on backtracking requires premium.

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• araozu@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Deezer+Deemix -> Jellyfin -> Symfonium

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• westyvw@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I am on lemmy right?

  I only skimmed, but not one single suggestion to federated our music? Isn’t that what we need to do now, and not for downloading, simply sharing libraries. It’s out there…

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  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s a ton of technical reasons that would be difficult and stupid expensive, even if completely ignoring the aspect of being highly illegal.

    Federation isn’t a magic concept that instantly fixes the internet.

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    • westyvw@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Doesn’t have to he illegal at all. Plenty of freely shared music out there, and some with less restrictive licenses.

      On the other hand it seems absurd I am not allowed to let other people browse my library and listen to songs. Not copy them, simply stream them.

      What if we collectively bought the music and lent it out in library fashion? Only I user per stream. I refuse to give up having control because of stupid backwards laws.

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• Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yay, more enshitification. Glad I dumped them 2 years ago.

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• Anonymousllama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Truly amazing. 2023 really is the year for less for more

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• ColdWater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Stream music are fucking trash in quality compared to flac, so give me flac or go fuck yourself

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• Arfman@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  At least the radio has someone that talks and occasionally interacts with the audience

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• FrostKing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just gonna throw the name Innertune out here… look into it :p

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