College core: you sit in the class for attendance then go home and teach yourself

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• HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  I was failing engineering probability and statistics until i stopped going to class and just read the book. Then i got an A. Professor was just horrible.

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• janus2@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  so many of my 100 and 200 level STEM classes were like this in no small part due to the instructors not wanting to teach. they were being forced to teach as part of their employment contract but their main work was research

  i resented them for turning their lack of ability to get a position that didn’t require teaching into my problem because they refused to give the slightest effort towards actually explaining the material

  doing problems from the textbook on the overhead projector with near-zero explanation is dogshit teaching

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  • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    At least yours were taught by actual faculty?

    A lot of my 100 and 200 level classes were taught by grad students who were interning as teachers in exchange for free/discounted tuition.

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    • Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      At least yours were taught by actual people.

      My girlfriend showed me recently that one of her profs made an AI clone of himself (voice and visual) and distributed prerecorded lessons that way. Who knows if he’s even writing the script for it. Probably not.

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  • Pickleideas@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That was the most jarring thing for me transitioning from a community/junior college to a private university. Pretty much every teacher I had in CC was there because they loved to teach, but didn’t want to teach children. In University it felt like everyone was teaching because they had bills to pay and had no concept of a world outside of school.

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  • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Even for the classes with excellent profs, sometimes I’d have to do the thing above.

    If I had midterms or an important project in one class, I might have to skip the prereading / review for another class. After that, I’d get to class and not understand much of it. Then I’d catch up the best I could during weekends, reading breaks, or just during finals season.

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    • bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      And that’s how universities work, because who cares if it’s all just a giant farce, right? Gotta have the paper that says your smart.

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• hayvan@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Am I going insane or do the two women in front middle have weird looking hands?

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  • Beep@lemmus.org ⁨50⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Mmmm

    Image

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  • Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Noup, probably AI generated picture as messed up hands are a rather stereotypical for AI.

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  • MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Now that you mention it, all of the hands look weird

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    It’s slop. Coming to take yer jerb.

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• Signtist@bookwyr.me ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Man, I’m glad it wasn’t like this for me. I went to school in the middle of nowhere North Dakota and nearly all of my professors were active and attentive. My genetics class was the only one where the professor was phoning it in, just reading the textbook as a lecture, but me and the other students complained, and he got replaced with another much better professor a few weeks into the semester.

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• justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Forced attendance is just a stupid concept… If you pass the exam, who cares where and how you learned it? Happy that I never had that.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Ah, so university is just about get a number to get a piece of paper.

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    • spectrums_coherence@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      That is not the case, exam evaluates learning outcome. If the student satisfies the learning outcome in the end, I don’t care how they did it.

      I am only here to help the student acheive as much learning outcome as they can and in the end, assigning a score that reflect how much they have acheived.

      That is the important part: in the end, it is only a letter, but that letter should reflect real skill. Yet I don’t want student to waste their precious time when they can achieve the required outcome without doing homework and/or attending classes.

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• NorthWestWind@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Idk if this is specific to computer science or engineering, but the higher level CS courses I’ve taken basically stop caring. Most of them even make the lecture slides available for the general public. You can just access it, like my networking course just throws the slides to GitHub.

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  • crash_thepose@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I cannot for the life of me understand why they do that.

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  • bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Thanks for sharing, I can put that to good use in the classes I’m about to take! That’s an intro class though? Maybe it would be even worse if they did it the other way round: leaving beginner students hanging, wait till half drop out and only care for the survivors in advanced classes.

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• OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  At some level, college is supposed to be about teaching yourself.

  That said, professors are supposed to help.

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  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is that why it’s 10s of thousands of dollars, or more?

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Professor here, maybe 1% of my students ask for help. About 15 % don’t show up to class to a course run around manuscript discussion, do poorly. Why bother? Save tuition and stay home, because even if they do get a piece of paper after 4 years they will fail in any professional environment with those habits.

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• tacosanonymous@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I’ve never been to a lecture that took attendance. The only classes that did take attendance would sure as fuck notice that you got up and left.

  Please take your AI trash tf out of here.

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• melfie@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I learn best by reading anyway, so lectures were always a waste of my time.

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• Ghostie@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  While paying for it, most likely with debt.

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