You’re not productive if you don’t use a lot of AI, says guy who makes all of his money selling AI hardware
This man went from high to low REAL fast.
Jensen Huang says Nvidia engineers should use AI tokens worth half their annual salary every year to be fully productive
Submitted 3 weeks ago by artifex@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
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just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
artifex@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The billionaire’s way
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
The secret is he’s always been low, nvidia has intermittently pulled tons of shady shit basically ever since the 3dfx days
plyth@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
What did they do?
Closed source linux drivers is not nice, but also not shady.
Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
Idk when he was every regarded highly by Nvidia users/consumers. Only by corporate board and investors
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
ifs hes in the news this much like altman, they seem very DESPERATE like the bubbles about to pop.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
It would take a great burden from my shoulders, if AI could wash my clothes, do the dishes, cook, and vacuum my apartment. Those are the things I don’t want to do. I like my job. I can do it myself. Yeah, sure, there are occasionally things that AI can do for me in my daily work, but it’s mostly stupid, repetitive shit.
worhui@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So I found it kind of sucks to have those daily life tasks removed. I worked in a place early in my career that had on site catered food, on site laundry, on site massage, shopping services (before Amazon prime) and lodging for excessive overtime .
If it’s just leaving you more opportunity to work it sucks. I can’t be the only one who enjoys taking care of the daily life tasks Lê cleaning, shopping and cooking for myself. It’s what personalizes your life. When you do it for yourself, you decide what you eat and what you wear.
It seems cool but it’s offered so you never stop working and your life is never really your own.
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think the issue is that those things were tied to your job, not to some external source that just gives you free time to fuck around.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 weeks ago
Managers should send 100 emails per day to be fully productive
ryper@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
100 AI-written emails per day
howrar@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
And also have their AIs read another 100 emails for them.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Huang wants employees to pay half of their salary back to the company ? There is no escaping the company store, eh ?
CAD designers didn’t have to pay half of their salary to use the CAD tools the company wanted them to use.
jagermo@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
You code 16 lines, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
St. Peter, don’t you call me 'cause I can′t go
I owe my soul to the company store
artifex@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I didn’t read it that way. I think he’s saying “bosses: if you’re paying a $100k salary to a dev and not also paying $50k for tokens, your dev isn’t working hard enough”.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Which is still utterly absurd, because it implies that a harder working dev would be spending more time chatting to a bot.
krisevol@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Your didn’t read the article did you?
Jenson gives then free tokens just in case you don’t want to read.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fuck reading.
worhui@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That is not at all what the article says. It’s way more self serving than that.
melfie@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
It seems that the Nvidia CEO isn’t the only one investing in AI tokens for his employees to freely use
AFAIK, Nvidia employees aren’t paying for the tokens they use out of their own pockets, although it’s certainly beneficial to Nvidia in multiple ways if their own employees are making heavy use of AI.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
CEO suggests raising employee costs by fifty percent and is immediately fired.
Sorry, we don’t live in a sane world anymore.
Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
“Dear AI coding agent, write for me a 10,000 page manifesto on the downsides of assigning performance metrics to employees unrelated to their actual work product. Populate it with generated images of Nvidia’s CEO getting railed by a bunch of copyright lawyers in the style of a Studio Ghibli film. Please ensure every fifth sentence rhymes with orange. Continue to generate images and short videos of Jensen Huang licking shit off the floor of a 7-11 rest stop bathroom until you have used enough tokens to meet my salary target.”
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Beautifully prompted
worhui@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I didn’t read this and just pasted this into a llm
glen_malley@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
They’ve all realized there’s no point in even bothering to hide the grift anymore. People don’t care.
Sinthesis@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
BREAKING NEWS: Guy who sells AI hardware says his employees must use more AI.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Sam Altman floated paying employees in chatGPT tokens, that surely their landlord will accept. The main motive would be being broke. Nvidia is not broke, but it is weird as fuck to be comparing it to salary, if it doesn’t segue into the OpenAI plan. The $500k salary example would seem to generate more tokens than you could have time to skim over in review.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
He’s sooo close to arriving at crypto tokens.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
uh oh… if only GPUs could do proof of work mining, if the AI thing gets oversupplied.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Luigi knows the solution for this.
moustachio@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s amazing they can just make these claims without literally any evidence and no major “media” organization asks for it. They are just propaganda for these companies.
umbraroze@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
It’s moments like these that make me think about the state of the world and my part in it. I may just be a random loser on the Internet, but I do know a lot more shit that some of the biggest multi-quad-spillion-dollar CEOs, apparently.
For example, it’s an old fact that tech CEOs know jack shit about measuring productivity, even when they’re obsessed with it. Yeah. One more example.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
Something I don’t understand - AI coding is mostly useful in common code, snippets, easy stuff. What Nvidia is doing (drivers, optimization, chip design, etc.) is something I imagine there is close to zero AI training, so what can they realistically even use it for so much?
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
so what can they realistically even use it for so much?
Burn money on AI tokens so it looks like AI could be profitable some day so people keep investing in AI companies that can then buy Nvidia chips…
You’re thinking of it like “how can AI make a better product”
They’re looking at it as “how can we sell more chips”
Two very different questions with very different answers.
It’s a house of cards and Nvidia can’t afford to acknowledge no one wants AI or knows how to make it profitable.
scytale@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
I’m gonna take a guess that a big portion of it is infrastructure-as-code, the operations side and not product development itself. I work in the operations side of things and we never touch the product at all, but we deal with a lot of code due to how backend infrastructure is built and maintained now, especially if you’re in the cloud.
NinjaTurtle@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
Guess code review and troubleshooting. Not really sure, I have only really used it for code templates and ideas for troubleshooting to look into.
frongt@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
There’s plenty of driver code available. All of Linux and BSD, plus whatever internal stuff they have. Optimization is pretty generic.
Chip design maybe not, but I imagine you can train an AI on the principles and generate a bunch of candidates, then benchmark them in simulation.
fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d say not before the bosses and shareholders agree to take 50% of their compensation in the form of AI tokens.
These fucking leeches…
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can’t wait to to see AI that designs chips driving Nvidia out of business
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
They’re allegedly
SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
You can’t vibe code IC design. Look at the number of humans in the world that design advanced ICs. It’s a really low number for a highly specialized skill. Layout requires spacial awareness at a high level, which an LLM does not have.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Oh this will be a fun. “Please spend more of our company money, or else we will think you are not doing your job”
it’s so fucking easy to send bogus requests that use tons of processing time. This is the DUMBEST metric i’ve seen in a long, long time. If an employee of theirs uses 500k worth of processing time now, are they better employees? What if someone manages to spend 10 million worth of tokens? 100 million? Performance metrics should be outcome based instead of “how much money did you spend” lol
artifex@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
It’s not a metric it’s a marketing stunt.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I’d be amazed if they internally do not have objectives to implement the kool aid.
But yeah, of course it’s propaganda. If this bite lands in the right ear of an exec, they can implement this as a metric in their review process.
Evilschnuff@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Kinda similar to musks LOC requirement. But at least with NVIDIA this idea directly correlates with more business if it spreads beyond the company
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Let me translate this for you, “My bonus depends on you showing our massive investment wasn’t a waste so I’m holding your jobs hostage until you make up busy work to pretend it was worthwhile.”
answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The AI bubble went from a trillion dollar worth of circlejerk investments, to a self-sucking circlejerk trillion dollar ponzi scheme. Jensen Huang is right the moment an Invidia’s employee stop sucking their own dick or stop jerking off their coworkers and bosses simultaneously, the whole economy collapse.
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Highly paid asshole says shit and instead of ignoring it gets all the attention.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Jesus that’s a lot of tokens.
Even if I was trying to do everything in my power to make burn tokens for real work I’d be hard fucking pressed to burn more than a couple thousand a month and that’s just being wasteful.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
you just need to use more context injection and more agents working in parallel on git worktrees or whatever and then get really depressed because you own an absolute fuckload of code now and you are less familiar with it
teslasdisciple@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
This is even dumber than tracking how many lines of code each dev commits.
filister@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The beauty is when those companies run out of human training data and start training on AI slop, just to generate even more AI slop.
This is probably already happening though.
percent@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
It is, intentionally. Some of the training data is synthetic
recked_wralph@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wouldn’t an AI researcher naturally find generative AI disadvantageous because they are attempting to develop novel tools which could not exist in the training set in the first place?
realitista@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Just have an LLM ask another LLM questions for a couple hours a day. That should hit that target.
noxypaws@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
can I tell an AI to burn exactly that on Jan 1 doing absolutely nothing, and then never touch the shit for the rest of the year?
Hiro8811@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jensen Huang should suck my dick.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I remember back when Nvidias PR team used to push this humble rags to riches story about Jensen back in the day, I guess even they would have a tough time doing that now that he’s gone mask off
Carol2852@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
No shit, CEO of company producing AI hardware wants everyone to use their hardware more. 🤷♂️
Feyd@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
They really want this to be an apt comparison and it’s really not
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s worse, they want to change the global economy to corporations paying corporations…
The total elimation of actual consumers, because none of us will be able to afford to consume enough.
AI companies need people to pay for AI to keep buying Nvidia chips. So Nvidia is making their employees pay for the AI so AI companies keep buying Nvidia chips.
It’s not a sustainable system, it’s just a money churn whose only purpose is to consolidate wealth.
P1nkman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m hungry. When do we eat?
wabafee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So ponzi scheme?
artifex@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I didn’t read it that way. I think he’s saying “bosses: if you’re paying a $100k salary to a dev and not also paying $50k for tokens, your dev isn’t working hard enough”. Which is better, but only just.
Windex007@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
To refine that even further, he doesn’t appear to imply that the dev isn’t WORKING hard enough, only that they’re not being OPTIMALLY PRODUCTIVE.
What he’s trying to do, really is float and normalize the concept of baking tokens into HR math in terms of a “golden ratio”… which happens to be 2:1.
So, when a company goes all in on ai, and they cut thier workforce in half, they’ll need to add in 50% for tokens. 50% of the original staff, at a new 150% cost, puts the company at 75% pre ai workforce cost. This is the “guidelines” they’re trying to normalize.
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
I think he’s saying slaves should owe their soul to the company store.
Don’t give this sack of shite the benefit of doubt.
Feyd@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
He didn’t explicitly say it, but the language in use gels with the ones that have
fartographer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
With my trusty LLM, I follow the steps recommending that I try reaching inside the die press to look for any jammed parts that could have caused the machine to suddenly stop working. My coworker, who my boss sent to assist me based on instructions from her LLM, asks his LLM how to help me. My coworker’s LLM recommends that he check if the emergency stop button has been pulled…
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
i think it is better than pizza fridays for them, because they probably can’t barter pizza for free.
atomicorange@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The tokens as currency thing feels exactly like gaming microtransaction bullshit to me. Obscure the true cost of each purchase by selling in-game currency. Dark patterns lead to higher spending.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s proof of work cryptocurrency. But at least this time the compute is aiming at producing something useful, not the lowest hash value.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Just a few days ago they were indeed talking about giving tokens as bonus.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Is company chit still illegal if it’s a bonus?
CuddlesMcBubblefun@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s one the most insanely stupid things I’ve ever heard. Tokens are a tool used to do your job, a business expense, not fucking compensation.
Are the kWh that you use to light and air condition an office part of your compensation? How about toner and paper in the office printer?
If those tokens are a bonus, they’re yours, right? So you can burn half your annual salary worth of tokens translating Microsoft Encarta 95 into Klingon, and they will foot the bill?
nightlily@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Sure I don’t get any retirement or healthcare benefits, but look at all the company scrip I get for the sloppy autocomplete that is stealing all my groundwater no matter how many times someone says „closed loop cooling“.