Submitted 19 hours ago by artifex@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
You’re not productive if you don’t use a lot of AI, says guy who makes all of his money selling AI hardware
Jensen compared today’s AI tools to machinery that was invented during the industrial revolution
They really want this to be an apt comparison and it’s really not
It’s worse, they want to change the global economy to corporations paying corporations…
The total elimation of actual consumers, because none of us will be able to afford to consume enough.
AI companies need people to pay for AI to keep buying Nvidia chips. So Nvidia is making their employees pay for the AI so AI companies keep buying Nvidia chips.
It’s not a sustainable system, it’s just a money churn whose only purpose is to consolidate wealth.
So ponzi scheme?
I didn’t read it that way. I think he’s saying “bosses: if you’re paying a $100k salary to a dev and not also paying $50k for tokens, your dev isn’t working hard enough”. Which is better, but only just.
To refine that even further, he doesn’t appear to imply that the dev isn’t WORKING hard enough, only that they’re not being OPTIMALLY PRODUCTIVE.
What he’s trying to do, really is float and normalize the concept of baking tokens into HR math in terms of a “golden ratio”… which happens to be 2:1.
So, when a company goes all in on ai, and they cut thier workforce in half, they’ll need to add in 50% for tokens. 50% of the original staff, at a new 150% cost, puts the company at 75% pre ai workforce cost. This is the “guidelines” they’re trying to normalize.
I think he’s saying slaves should owe their soul to the company store.
Don’t give this sack of shite the benefit of doubt.
He didn’t explicitly say it, but the language in use gels with the ones that have
With my trusty LLM, I follow the steps recommending that I try reaching inside the die press to look for any jammed parts that could have caused the machine to suddenly stop working. My coworker, who my boss sent to assist me based on instructions from her LLM, asks his LLM how to help me. My coworker’s LLM recommends that he check if the emergency stop button has been pulled…
The tokens as currency thing feels exactly like gaming microtransaction bullshit to me. Obscure the true cost of each purchase by selling in-game currency. Dark patterns lead to higher spending.
They also really want to talk about tokens like they’re some kind of currency
i think it is better than pizza fridays for them, because they probably can’t barter pizza for free.
Sure I don’t get any retirement or healthcare benefits, but look at all the company scrip I get for the sloppy autocomplete that is stealing all my groundwater no matter how many times someone says „closed loop cooling“.
Just a few days ago they were indeed talking about giving tokens as bonus.
Is company chit still illegal if it’s a bonus?
That’s one the most insanely stupid things I’ve ever heard. Tokens are a tool used to do your job, a business expense, not fucking compensation.
Are the kWh that you use to light and air condition an office part of your compensation? How about toner and paper in the office printer?
If those tokens are a bonus, they’re yours, right? So you can burn half your annual salary worth of tokens translating Microsoft Encarta 95 into Klingon, and they will foot the bill?
It would take a great burden from my shoulders, if AI could wash my clothes, do the dishes, cook, and vacuum my apartment. Those are the things I don’t want to do. I like my job. I can do it myself. Yeah, sure, there are occasionally things that AI can do for me in my daily work, but it’s mostly stupid, repetitive shit.
They’ve all realized there’s no point in even bothering to hide the grift anymore. People don’t care.
Managers should send 100 emails per day to be fully productive
100 AI-written emails per day
And also have their AIs read another 100 emails for them.
This man went from high to low REAL fast.
The billionaire’s way
The secret is he’s always been low, nvidia has intermittently pulled tons of shady shit basically ever since the 3dfx days
What did they do?
Closed source linux drivers is not nice, but also not shady.
ifs hes in the news this much like altman, they seem very DESPERATE like the bubbles about to pop.
Idk when he was every regarded highly by Nvidia users/consumers. Only by corporate board and investors
BREAKING NEWS: Guy who sells AI hardware says his employees must use more AI.
Sam Altman floated paying employees in chatGPT tokens, that surely their landlord will accept. The main motive would be being broke. Nvidia is not broke, but it is weird as fuck to be comparing it to salary, if it doesn’t segue into the OpenAI plan. The $500k salary example would seem to generate more tokens than you could have time to skim over in review.
He’s sooo close to arriving at crypto tokens.
uh oh… if only GPUs could do proof of work mining, if the AI thing gets oversupplied.
Highly paid asshole says shit and instead of ignoring it gets all the attention.
Huang wants employees to pay half of their salary back to the company ? There is no escaping the company store, eh ?
CAD designers didn’t have to pay half of their salary to use the CAD tools the company wanted them to use.
You code 16 lines, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
St. Peter, don’t you call me 'cause I can′t go
I owe my soul to the company store
I didn’t read it that way. I think he’s saying “bosses: if you’re paying a $100k salary to a dev and not also paying $50k for tokens, your dev isn’t working hard enough”.
Which is still utterly absurd, because it implies that a harder working dev would be spending more time chatting to a bot.
Your didn’t read the article did you?
Jenson gives then free tokens just in case you don’t want to read.
Fuck reading.
It seems that the Nvidia CEO isn’t the only one investing in AI tokens for his employees to freely use
AFAIK, Nvidia employees aren’t paying for the tokens they use out of their own pockets, although it’s certainly beneficial to Nvidia in multiple ways if their own employees are making heavy use of AI.
Wasn’t the whole point of LLMs basically free advanced labor for these douchebags? Paying half a price of labor on top of paying for labor seems pretty pathetic. Full denial mode eh?
I’d say not before the bosses and shareholders agree to take 50% of their compensation in the form of AI tokens.
These fucking leeches…
“Dear AI coding agent, write for me a 10,000 page manifesto on the downsides of assigning performance metrics to employees unrelated to their actual work product. Populate it with generated images of Nvidia’s CEO getting railed by a bunch of copyright lawyers in the style of a Studio Ghibli film. Please ensure every fifth sentence rhymes with orange. Continue to generate images and short videos of Jensen Huang licking shit off the floor of a 7-11 rest stop bathroom until you have used enough tokens to meet my salary target.”
Beautifully prompted
Something I don’t understand - AI coding is mostly useful in common code, snippets, easy stuff. What Nvidia is doing (drivers, optimization, chip design, etc.) is something I imagine there is close to zero AI training, so what can they realistically even use it for so much?
so what can they realistically even use it for so much?
Burn money on AI tokens so it looks like AI could be profitable some day so people keep investing in AI companies that can then buy Nvidia chips…
You’re thinking of it like “how can AI make a better product”
They’re looking at it as “how can we sell more chips”
Two very different questions with very different answers.
It’s a house of cards and Nvidia can’t afford to acknowledge no one wants AI or knows how to make it profitable.
I’m gonna take a guess that a big portion of it is infrastructure-as-code, the operations side and not product development itself. I work in the operations side of things and we never touch the product at all, but we deal with a lot of code due to how backend infrastructure is built and maintained now, especially if you’re in the cloud.
Guess code review and troubleshooting. Not really sure, I have only really used it for code templates and ideas for troubleshooting to look into.
Making slides for all the pointless meetings.
There’s plenty of driver code available. All of Linux and BSD, plus whatever internal stuff they have. Optimization is pretty generic.
Chip design maybe not, but I imagine you can train an AI on the principles and generate a bunch of candidates, then benchmark them in simulation.
Can’t wait to to see AI that designs chips driving Nvidia out of business
They’re allegedly
You can’t vibe code IC design. Look at the number of humans in the world that design advanced ICs. It’s a really low number for a highly specialized skill. Layout requires spacial awareness at a high level, which an LLM does not have.
No shit, CEO of company producing AI hardware wants everyone to use their hardware more. 🤷♂️
because they know the AI is about to go bust, and its not generating any actual value.
Oh this will be a fun. “Please spend more of our company money, or else we will think you are not doing your job”
it’s so fucking easy to send bogus requests that use tons of processing time. This is the DUMBEST metric i’ve seen in a long, long time. If an employee of theirs uses 500k worth of processing time now, are they better employees? What if someone manages to spend 10 million worth of tokens? 100 million? Performance metrics should be outcome based instead of “how much money did you spend” lol
It’s not a metric it’s a marketing stunt.
I’d be amazed if they internally do not have objectives to implement the kool aid.
But yeah, of course it’s propaganda. If this bite lands in the right ear of an exec, they can implement this as a metric in their review process.
Kinda similar to musks LOC requirement. But at least with NVIDIA this idea directly correlates with more business if it spreads beyond the company
“And to not get mysteriously laid off”
Just have an LLM ask another LLM questions for a couple hours a day. That should hit that target.
This is even dumber than tracking how many lines of code each dev commits.
can I tell an AI to burn exactly that on Jan 1 doing absolutely nothing, and then never touch the shit for the rest of the year?
Openclaw got you covered!
Tech people are all circle jerking dipshits
you first, mr huang
If these AI engineers were fully committed to AI, then they would be happy to be paid in tokens. The fact that they still demand to be paid in human money proves that they are just philistines and sycophants.
I mean… if you take into account fair price of utilities (water and electric) and skyrocketing costs of RAM… I don’t fully disagree.
Ballparking, but 50% of an engineer’s job being “boilerplate” and “charlie work” sounds reasonable to me. Maybe even 75%. That IS what generative AI is really good at. It is the kind of work that you can have a particularly ambitious student intern do.
What makes a good engineer is the ability to verify that work. In software this is “code review”. And the other aspect is actual innovation. Solving particularly complex problems or breaking a problem down into manageable and verifiable tasks.
And… guess how you maintain your skills to be able to do that? That’s right. Charlie Work.
Which is the problem. Managers (and wannabe managers) just see short term gains. So they want EVERYTHING to be done with “AI” because they want to bulk fire people and reduce operating costs. And they don’t at all care that they are causing a massive brain drain because that is next quarter’s problem.
Would Nvidia lose a bunch of money if the ai bubble collapsed? Could that be why he is saying absurd things like this? I bet if any employee did drop that much on ai they would be in trouble.
Nothing like a wage slave
Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
CEO suggests raising employee costs by fifty percent and is immediately fired.
Sorry, we don’t live in a sane world anymore.