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Submitted 12 hours ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to [deleted]
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Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 6 hours ago
pjwestin@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
It was designed at a transition point between joysticks and the D-pad. Your right hand goes on the right prong for the A, B, and C buttons. Your left hand should be on the center prong when using a game designed for the joystick, or on the left prong when using a game designed for the D-pad. It’s not the most elegant design, but it’s really really not that hard to figure out.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
This is why hiring the “why not both” girl as lead hardware designer is not always the best strategy
pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I mean, at the time it was designed, “both,” pretty much was the right choice. Without the D-pad a lot of the titles they could reliably develop, like fighting or puzzle games, would have been incredibly difficult to get working well, but without the joystick, they couldn’t launch with titles like Mario 64. It’s easy to look at the PS1 Duelshock controller and assume they were idiots, but original PS1 controller only had a D-pad. The N64 beat the PS1 to the joystick by two years, and while it was much derpier than the Playstation’s solution, it was integrated from day one.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
It’s honestly baffling people still riff on this. Anyone that’s held the controller for 2 seconds understands it.
pjwestin@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
It’s gotta be Zoomers looking at it with no frame of reference. Anyone who played this at the time would have recognized the layout here; they were taking the SNES controller, adding an extra set of buttons to be more in line with the 6 button layout popularized by Sega, and then sticking a joystick in the middle. Assigning the c-buttons as directional was actually pretty insightful. They work for camera controls on stuff like Mario 64, but they also function as a top-row/bottom-row for strong-attack/light-attack on D-pad fighting games like Mortal Kombat.
tempest@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
You’re right it’s just the system had very few games where the d pad was the obvious primary control device.
What everyone here is really missing is the ahead of its time Golden eye 2 controller two stick setup. They knew where things were going the controller was just a little too soon.
criss_cross@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Or you’re like me and you put your hand on the left pron and stretch your thumb onto the joystick anyway. Middle prong be damned.
pjwestin@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
How the hell did you use the Z-trigger?
hOrni@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Still beats flying
Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Yeah its more awkward when your copilot is watching you deep throat the throttle.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 hours ago
The designer of the controller had 3 arms and always wondered why people didn’t like the design.
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Better have a long tongue to reach the “Z” button with.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Yoshis tongue was based on the lead designers
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Regular length tongue is fine. It’s just not inserted all the way in the picture.
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Understood. My experience deepthroating N64 controllers is …uh… limited.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
The left hand goes on the left or the middle depending on the game.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The first time I picked it up my hands were already large enough that it just felt normal to have each hand on the outer grips. I’ve been called a freak. Feared by children and scorned by adults. I was cast out of my village. Given no quarter.
It’s been a lonely life, but I yam what I yam.
Fun Fact: Holding it that way makes it a lot easier to break the joystick since you’re putting force on it from an angle. As an adult I’ve had to order after market joysticks with thicker sticks to replace the ones I broke as a kid. They’re actually much better with way smoother movement.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Should be 3 mouths.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
Casuals, I stick the left up my butt.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 11 hours ago
TheGiantKorean@lemmy.today 4 hours ago
Is the middle prong not for perineum stimulation?
JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 hours ago
I still don’t get how they ever approved this design.
DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 hours ago
It was the early days of 3d gaming consoles. And as nobody knew how control schemes will develop they created this controller with three different kinds of input schemes:
- Left on left/ right on right for traditional plattformers
- Left on middle / right on right for 3d games that require that analog stick
- Left on left / right on middle … yeah I don’t know either.
red_tomato@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Is there any game that utilized the d pad though? The d pad and the L button must have gone down in history as the most useless buttons ever put on a controller.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
It’s better than the current factor for switching between d-pad and joystick exclusive games.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 hours ago
I disagree, but I could see it being difficult for some folks with thumb problems.
I had this cool PS2 controller that let you swap the positions of the d pad, analog sticks, and buttons. So you could make it like the Xbox layout, left analog on top left and dpad on bottom left. It’d be nice if more stuff like that was a thing. Though I think most consoles have pretty good accessibility settings now and let you do stuff like that (though not as dramatic as moving hardware of course). It could even adjust the tension in the sticks by twisting em.
Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
Gotta get good enough to throat it down then tongue the clit
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
The difference between that and a modern standard controller for like an Xbox or playstation feels like the difference between a modern standard controller and something like this where you can keep both thumbs on the sticks and have access to all the shoulder and face buttons at the same time
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Is that a real controller? I was wondering what they even labeled all the buttons, and got LB LT MU?
On the right it’s labeled RB, RT, M2, which means to me it should say M1 on the left, but I would have assumed RM and LM would have made more sense?
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 8 hours ago
Still a better time than whatever nightmare gaming is nowadays.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
What’s wrong with the current standard of two sticks? Also, we have had some absolutely phenomenal releases in the past few years; E33, anything fromsoft (especially AC:VI FoR), cyberpunk,I mean the list goes on for quite a while.
tpihkal@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Worst controller design of all time.
Denjin@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
Objectively false, and it’s not even close
pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
The worst has to go to the Phillips CDI. In fairness, this was designed primarily as a remote control, and there was a much better dedicated gaming controller available, but they believed this layout would be adequate for gaming.
aeiou@piefed.social 8 hours ago
The Amiga CD one does not look that bad?
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 10 hours ago
I had a cheat code for some game where I definitely had to use my mouth or face to move the analog stick.
bert_macklin_fbi@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I had to use this technique for Shadows of the Empire. I want to say it was the one that let you change between the Outrider, X-Wing, and Tie Fighter.
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 9 hours ago
You might be right, it might have been that game. You had to hold it like halfway to the left (or maybe my controller was just old).
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Wtf is that controller? Some kind of new-fangled wireless abomination? That’s not original hardware. And, since it is new, why did they put no effort into fixing the joystick? You’re just going to get a floppy dick stick in a few years with it anyway.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
no wonder i was so bad at south park 64
Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
mouthanussmuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
I’ve just been stabilizing it in my bellybutton. I need to work on my flexibility.
Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 6 hours ago
No, left amd right hand are switched (the controller rotated upsidedown) so that I can more easily tongue that little stick of joy.
Toes@ani.social 6 hours ago
Did any of you change your controls to use the dpad for navigation in 007 golden eye? My friends called me a psycho for it.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
No because I’m not a psycho.
dvlsg@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
No, but I did use the yellow buttons for movement and the joystick for aiming. I guess that’s fairly similar.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I see you played Turok.
jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Maybe this controller was meant for girls.
absentbird@lemmy.world 16 minutes ago
How Zorro wins at Smash