Huang declares Israel Nvidia’s “second home” with record-breaking campus investment

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨IndustryStandard@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/sjcwdmxxzg

Now it is official: Nvidia’s spacecraft is set to land in Kiryat Tivon. After a five-month process in which the world’s most valuable company examined several alternatives for establishing a new mega-campus in Israel, Nvidia has chosen Kiryat Tivon.

The company, currently valued at about $4.3 trillion, will purchase the land from the state for approximately NIS 90 million (approximately $28 million), making it the first international technology company in Israel to build a major campus on land it owns. Until now, the campuses of multinational giants such as Intel, Microsoft, Google, and Meta have all been located in leased properties.

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SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yet another reason to never buy NVIDIA cards ever again.

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- VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They don’t want to sell you anything anymore anyways. They want you to RENT computing time.
  
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  - Venator@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Also thier consumer sales is next to nothing compared to what they’re selling to data centers now…
    
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inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yup. That really cements further that I will not buy Nvidia again.

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- 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Can’t wait for AMD to follow them like the little bitches that they are… Then there’s Intel… I guess they exist too…
  
  I wish I could make a GPU at home.
  
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  - Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You technically can, without that large of an investment. It’ll be incredibly weak though, to the point it isn’t useful in the modern day.
    
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waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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- RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Bold of you to assume they don’t already have access to all the existing NSA backdoor.
  
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  - Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    This is why all backdoors are bad.
    
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- floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Intel ME: helo
  
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Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
So now we have to assume that everyone using Nvidia hardware has an open backdoor for the Mossad. Very nice. Fucking lovely timeline.

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- boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  There’s no US tech without Israel.
  
  Intel also has a large Israel presence and they have had backdoors in their hardware before, though claim it was not on purpose. Interestingly, the vulnerabilities in the AMD equivalent were reported by an Israeli company. Perhaps AMD crossed them and this was vengeance, or perhaps this was completely independent of any Mossad agenda.
  
  Qualcomm also has a history of working with Israeli companies on R&D, as well as acquiring some of them.
  
  And if you thought “hey, maybe Apple, the only real competitor in the CPU space after the aforementioned, has no Israeli ties beyond just selling them products like everyone else”, well unfortunately Apple also has an Israel office.
  
  Guess what, ARM itself has Israel ties so you can’t TRULY escape Israeli influence.
  
  Short of RISC-V taking off, there’s no computing without Israel being involved in one way or another.
  
  Israel is also behind some of everyone’s favourite apps, such as Waze, formerly known as FreeMap Israel.
  
  Google has two offices in Israel, Microsoft straight up provides them military surveillance solutions and has a huge R&D office… And Oracle’s CEO literally vetted potential US presidential candidates for Israel.
  
  It’s not just American tech companies either. If you do want to make your own chips, you’d probably use TSMC, which has strategic ties with Israel. ASML, the company that provides TSMC with the ultra high tech EUV machines also has an Israel office, though it’s not like you can make a backdoor with EUV tech… I think. But basically if you have a computing device of any sort, Israel has profited from it in some super minor way, even if it’s just 0.0001%.
  
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  - Tm12@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Thanks for putting this together.
    
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  - hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes. I wouldn’t focus on someone being able to tell which map you’re playing, and which color your car has in Need For Speed. It’s way more unsettling what’s in networking equipment. Or inside an Intel Management Engine, and the firmware blobs of all the computer chips.
    
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  - EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    What an endless nightmare
    
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  - Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Demonization of China focusing more clearly every day
    
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  - PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I remember on a Meets call with my Israeli coworkers and they had to go to the bomb shelter because of rockets.
    
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- Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s pretty obvious sure all of the western governments are occupied by Israel at this point.
  
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bitteroldcoot@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
On a more practical level, why????

It takes an enormous amount of ultra pure water to make a micro chip. There is a worsening water shortage in that area. This is the worse place to do this.

Also if you built it in the eu, you have easy access to a huge market and ready customers. Also the Middle East is constantly immersed in war. If Iran wants to really hurt Israel just start blowing up Nvidia.

On a purely practical level, this is really stupid. So the only explanations are politics, or they are being paid to do this. As to whom engineered this I have no idea.

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- IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Lot of Zionists in the Nvidia board and staff trying to tie the worlds most valuable company to the Apartheid state. They want Israel to be a strategic asset like TSMC.
  
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  - bitteroldcoot@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    it looks like Israel is paying them to do this. So yes.
    
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  - kreskin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    They’ll eventually destroy nvidia, like they do to everything else they touch. Nvidia is just a tool to them. The US government is just a tool to them too.
    
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- Luminotik@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  NVIDIA doesn’t manufacture chips at all (TSMC does), so this facility would presumably be for R&D, marketing, devising the next scheme to screw everyone over and increase share value, yada yada.
  
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  - hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Wait, so excuse my ignorance here, if they are made by others in Tawain, what does nvidia do? They just program them then?
    
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- MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The chips are made in Taiwan (TSMC), this is likely for chip designers, (and marketers and executives and sundry other hangers on of little worth), water is irrelevant. Evil on the other hand…
  
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  - vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Evil on the other hand…
    
    I agree, it would be much better if Israel were located in some part of (former in that case) Northern Bavaria and its problematic (or not) neighbors were Germans, making them more justified bombing targets. Unfortunately in that case it’d be very likely that it wouldn’t last 20 years. There’d be a combined arms operation, some additional smoke from the stoves, and probably neither the Western nor the Soviet side would care much what their pet Germans are doing.
    
    Also for the purpose of minimizing evil locating chip design in Israel is not worse than in USA. I’m not sure whether you’ll want to argue that, just adding.
    
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- UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  It takes an enormous amount of ultra pure water to make a micro chip
  
  Israel has some of the most advanced desalination facilities in the world
  
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  - hark@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    They make such great use of our tax dollars.
    
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- boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  If Iran wants to really hurt Israel just start blowing up Nvidia.
  
  That’d be a great way to get either Maduro’d or more likely Iraq’d unfortunately. War on nvidia is war on Trump.
  
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  - IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Iran would only bomb it when attacked. The problem is that Israel is on a course to invade every country around them and be in permanent war forever. So building tech hubs there is like drawing a giant bullseye on the map
    
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  - hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Maduro was given up by venezuela’s military though. That operation was not possible, and indeed would not have been attempted, if the military hadn’t entered into an agreement to stand down, and given intelligence. Helicopters are vulnerable to multiple weapons systems they couldn’t reliably take out, not the least in one of the most protected places in the country with the country mobilized.
    
    There is no question, the military is now the de facto power, overseeing the now puppet civilian government in selling out their assets, an old cold war template.
    
    'As such, they would not be able to do that in Iran. What they could do, is assassinate their leaders, including the ayatollah. They have everything compromised more than Iran thinks too, they could. Only the US likely stopped netanyahu from doing so already.
    
    As to invasions, it has a lot of mountainous areas, and is several times larger than Iraq, which is mostly flat. We could go through and blow shit up with impunity, but an Iraq style invasion is out of the question unless our leaders lose their minds quite a bit more. Not that they wouldn’t try anyway but not now they want to make war on America.
    
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- discocactus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Israel is at the forefront of water purification tech. As long as they have energy they can make water.
  
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  - Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Is this contributing to the dead sea drying up?
    
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- Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They aren’t going to manufacture there. Chip manufacturing happens almost exclusively in Taiwan. That new building is just an office to design those chips.
  
  A lot of maths goes into designing computer chips. You need an army of highly trained mathematicians and engineers for that.
  
  And Israel is a really rich country that gets a lot of gifts and “investments” from people who want to show they aren’t antisemitic. They invest a lot of that money into the education of their citizens.
  
  Israel’s universities are some of the best in the world. While US universities are on a steep downhill.
  
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- hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Maybe they can use salt water for it? If they have to desalianate it one would think that would be a dealbreaker.
  
  Tis a good question you ask. Why indeed. Just currying favor with the group that controls the superpower I suppose, what with the child fucking tapes Israel has on the president and a critical mass of politicians in the US and UK, and businessman and other swells. And whatever other blackmail.
  
  I can’t think of any other reasons, other than currying favour with Israel.
  
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ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Scumbag company considers scumbag country home…it’s a perfect fit.

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raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
And again I have to say Jensen Huang is a piece of shit.

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donkeyass@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This has aged appropriately:

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texture@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
as if i needed another reason to avoid nvidia. unconscionable move here.

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- cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I just need to figure out what the best AMD card I can get is which isn’t going to break the bank and be a sizeable bump over my 2070s then I’ll have no more Nvidia products in my home.
  
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  - big_slap@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    same card, lmk what you find out
    
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0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
So new nvidia chip designs will include israeli rootkits, got it.

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Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Fuck you nvidia.

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Mrkawfee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
OK so fuck Nvidia. got it.

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liking625@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Bye nvidia forever

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Ugurcan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I was just reading Apple doing all of it’s Silicon research over Israel as well. Wondering what Israel is promising them to get landed with lucrative business.

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- UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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- 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s probably something illegal involving kids the way billionares have been acting…
  
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- EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  So they won’t be able to claim “designed in California” or w/e anymore?
  
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sprack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
AMD, Intel and Qualcomm all have divisions in Israel too.

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- IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Intel has a fab there but aborted their large new Israel fab after the genocide started. AMD has some footprint in Israel too.
  
  What really sets Nvidia apart here is this massive campus and investment during the genocide.
  
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  - CriticalMiss@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Intel didn’t abort their new facility because of genocide, they could care less. They’re not making money right now so it’s not a good time to expand, and that’s about it.
    
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- EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Politics aside: it’s fucking wild that that such a tiny (both geographically and population) nation with water shortages (yes I know about desal) and in prime position to get wrecked by climate change is such a popular spot for so many tech companies.
  
  Also next time Elon or other whines about declining population, we can cite that a nation of ~10M can support so many tech companies.
  
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pimpampoom@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Well I’ll never buy nvidia again

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- Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Neither. Even before seeing this I had decided my next GPU will be AMD, just because of how crap Nvidias driver support is on Linux.
  
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  - I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    AMD is also in Israel. As is Intel.
    
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pir8t0x@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
BOYCOTT NVIDIA

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- 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Way ahead of you on that, welcome to the club.
  
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Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Cool. I’m now 100% team AMD if I could even buy a guy ever again.

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- Syndication@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Lisa Su, the CEO of AMD, is related to Jensen Huang; they are first cousins once removed. Hopefully she doesn’t closely follow Jensen’s beliefs, I just thought it was something worth mentioning.
  
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- boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  AMD and Intel also have presence in Israel.
  
  There’s plenty of other reasons to boycott Nvidia, but at this point you can’t avoid Israel just by avoiding Nvidia.
  
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  - Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Fuck it, I’m declaring war on Israel than.
    
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flandish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
oh what a surprise. a corporation doing the thing all capitalists do - exploit.

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itisileclerk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Nvidia is terrorist supporter!!!

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kreskin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Hard to imagine a more disgusting headline for Nvidia. I hope they go broke.

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explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Even if one doesn’t care about genocide, they should still care if their own GPU is rigged to explode.

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SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
So now Nvidia will be the red one? You know, with all the blood shed by Israel...

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turdburglar@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
well someone has a great eye for reading the room…

wtf - this fool out here actin as if building the sponge for all the worlds electricity wasn’t shitty enuf.

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- hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They aren’t selling to the consumer directly though, they are selling primarily to governments and business. Given that Israel controls the US and many of it’s businessman, this will win them favor. The regular citizens will be victims of their consumers more than anything. AI will be put to all sorts of draconian 1984 kind of uses.
  
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  - turdburglar@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    will be? it already is, friend. palantir’s ice apps for one.
    
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Adam_Crock@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Great. now I can’t wait to see Iran firing a rocket at that building.

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verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
So a company led by a Taiwanese is supporting the genocide of a people by their bigger, wealthier, stronger neighbour… The irony is palpable.

Yearly reminder the modern Taiwan establishment was birthed by a brutal and repressive authoritarian fascist and their elite are not much different today.

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- 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Money talks.
  Power corrupts.
  
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PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ya. It’s disappointing. But there are so many foundries in Israel. I’m not surprised. This is also why I don’t believe in terrorists. If anyone really wanted to stop Israel. They would target their foundries. But no one would dare mess with capitalism on that level.

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- FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The people the West labels as terrorists have been exploited and oppressed for generations. They don’t have the resources to get into Israel and perform meaningful acts of sabotage. Actions like that are better coming from the citizens of Israel who still have a conscience. They could look to groups like Palestine Action, whose sustained sabotage efforts against an Israeli weapons manufacturer lead to the closure of at least one factory in Britain, and led to Barclays bank divesting from the company. Of course, now Palestine Action are labeled as terrorists for that…
  
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Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ah yes, they new world spy/control agency. I shudder to think about the murderous plans they have with AI.

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CriticalMiss@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I find it amusing people say they’ll boycott NVIDIA because they set up shop in Israel.

they set up shop in Israel a long time ago (2016 to the best of my memory)

all of their competitors also operate in Israel to some degree

If you need discrete graphics you don’t have any choice. They all operate in Israel to some degree.
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- Allero@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Add that to the dangers of oligopolies. They can really just do whatever they want at this point.
  
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- SulaymanF@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Intel set up shop in Israel long ago, but I’m still boycotting. At least we have AMD as an alternative.
  
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  - boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I have bad news for you regarding AMD and Israel
    
    Also Intel and Israel.
    
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- IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It is not just about setting up shop in Israel. It id about building a megacampus while Israel is doing a genocide and is massively bleeding money.
  
  The “to some degree” is the difference. We went from Intel being the primary investor in Israel to now Nvidia.
  
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selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Fuck you, Nvidia.

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