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• borQue@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Murica is a deranged shithole. Linux is our only way out of this. To all hardware manifacturers: Build your goddamn drivers for it and free us!

  ~cry in the capitalist vacuum…

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• Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  As @TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com stated. This would never work in the US without major overhaul to existing infastructure. I’m rocking a 32/32 Mbps atm. My parents? they get 5. I have to enable steam to limit itself to 512kb/s download or I will take down their network as a whole. Remind me how a cloud based PC is going to work in this state.

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  • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Easy, they will just be locked out of having access to computing, that way they can only get their news and information from right-wing AM talk radio.

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  • d00ery@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You’ll have to rent a starlink from Elon, so he can keep an eye on your habits too

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    • Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      the thought of dynamic pricing on-top of the outrageous base pricing makes me shudder. All that for a network that will support Elons viewpoints and not have decent stability. Man I can’t wait.

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  • vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well, if we go absurdly simple you only need to send user input and receive images or something that fairly easily could be rendered as an image (html?).

    800dpi mouse sends about 24kbps, keyboard input is negligible. So theoretically speaking, you can do absolutely everything on such a remote PC but with a screen of 240p.

    Absolutely miserable.

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  • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Easy. Remember a few years ago when google advertised that they’d have negative latency allowing you to play your games everywhere, on every device, in better conditions than on your own device? Just like that. You just have to hire enough salespeople to convince reality to bend backward.

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    • Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Wait did this actually happen?

      I just had to look it up, that’s actually really funny as a way to try and hide latency issues. this won’t work well with bad networks though, I could see 1 or 2 frames being delayed or missing but, that’s still a funny way of trying to fix an issue that is a pipeline problem.

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  • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tbf RDP works pretty well for basic desktop stuff even over slow links. I’m sure there’s a protocol out there even more optimized for use cases like this.

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• orosus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There is no cloud, just someone else computer.

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• Furbag@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So, these idiots didn’t learn their lesson the first time with the colossal flop that was Stadia and now they want to convince us that, this time for sure, we really don’t want to own our own hardware and cloud computing is the future?

  These guys should not be getting a single bent penny for convincing people to switch over to cloud computing when their AI slop machines are responsible for the scarcity that is causing hardware prices to be completely uneconomical.

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  • Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    if they keep pushing it, eventually the younger generation will just comply.

    we need to continue to educate the new generations that the rich/CEO/tech freaks like bozo cannot be trusted, they lie, and their goal is to make us own nothing and pay for it.

    make it clear what their true goal is. media cannot be trusted to assist in this. citizens of the world must be loud at every moment we can be.

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  • Tilgare@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Stadia was Google and Bezos runs Amazon, who does have their own game streaming service, Luna, which is still operational.

    I haven’t used either of those, but I’ve been using GeForce Now recently while waiting for a replacement PSU and I have to say, it works really well. The on-device apps (Samsung monitor, LG TV) leave a lot to be desired but once you’re in a game, the latency is negligible for me and they’re running games high enough that it looks as good as when I was running it on my own 3090.

    None of that to say I disagree with you, but I do like that the option exists; it’s not black and white, good and bad. But it SHOULD be just that - AN OPTION. Not the only choice left after AI has demolished the market.

    Take solace in the fact the AI bubble will pop and all these “sold” wafers will suddenly flood the market as they turn to consumer brands to try and offload them. I don’t think we’re headed for this “all compute in the cloud” future he wants. Not yet.

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    • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The unfortunate thing I’ve heard is that the chips made for AI/datacenter use won’t be able to be repurposed for consumer tech.

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• enjoyingcarp650@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I would rather never touch a computer again than rent one.

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• oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why in the fuck did we move away from mainframes and dumb terminals in the first place, Bozes? Now back to that, but… cloud based, and we pay you to fuckin own everything? Get bent!

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• floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The means of information are the new means of production

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  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Information has generally always been power

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• DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m not giving up my PC, I’m running it until it dies, Big Tech can fuck off.

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• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  fucking microsoft too. they’re enshittifying things so much because they can charge you rent to compute instead

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• BassTurd@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Literally never.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Were not the target market.

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    • Butterphinger@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      We’re the target market to end.

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    • ohlaph@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      We’re too.

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• ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Um no

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• MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This is actually terrifying. Switching to Linux will help us for a while, and the community can take us a long way, but eventually the hardware in physical PCs won’t be able to perform basic functions.

  A phaseout of physical hardware would also entail a phaseout of physical accessories. You can buy external offline storage for a while, but eventually it’ll all get bought up on the used market or otherwise fail in 5-10 years after the last hard drives get made. Eventually you will lose all your files and have no way to back them up. No Jellyfin server for movies you legally ripped, no GOG installers for games you legally bought, no music library or ebooks either, they’ll all be gone.

  Our only hope, really, is small businesses continuing to build physical PCs with equal power as the cloud devices. But would parts manufacturers let them? The current situation with data centers, SDDs, and RAM shows that parts manufacturers are increasingly only interested in selling to other large businesses. Consumers can’t boycott that.

  I fully expect to be unable to access my bank or make appointments or get meaningful employment if I don’t switch over in 10 to 20 years.

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  • RalfWausE@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why should we need “equal power” to some hypothetical “cloud pc”? We did video cutting, 3D rendering, webbrowsing, videochatting and so on in the late 90s with PCs whose CPU speeds where measured in Mhz not Ghz… with the PCs build in the last ~15 years i really, really see no danger of running out of useable devices within my lifetime (i am slightly over 40 now).

    If there will be some time in the future when its only possible to get “meaningful employment” or “make appointments” using some cloud based shitstain i will happily spend my last days doing my part in helping to burn down this dystopic society.

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This is why tn EU needs to invest all into developing a RISC-V hardware chain asap. Proprietary CPUs is the ultimate chain and shackles.

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    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      We also will need a GPU with the same openness. If only Mali wasn’t sold off to ARM.

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• Vrag@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Since the ubiquity of smartphones, PC relevancy has been on the decline, and now with the pricing out of regular people, I imagine they will eventually become a completely niche and rare thing, to the point where even renting them out won’t be common or necessary. What’s more concerning to me is where the internet is going. In a few decades I think it will be mainly used for banking, medical an other administrative things, with the social aspect heavily regulated and monitored, and will only be used by businesses. We’ve lived through a very unique time, and things are bound to change massively, so enjoy it while you can.

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• 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yup, Jordan was right, they want you to rent everything.

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  • masterofn001@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You will own nothing and you will be happy.

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• spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud - hopes that you’ll give up you won’t be able to afford a PC and will be forced to rent one from the cloud

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• anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  In a sense he’s late. A lot of people already have - phones and tablets and chromebooks.

  Millions of people simply do not own a traditional computer.

  The rest of us, well, cold dead hands and all that.

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• redlemace@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Sure, we’ve all seen how the de-centralized internet became centralized around a few big-tech and what that does for availability. When he turns off the cloud-pc I’ve got nothing, and all I can do about it is … also nothing. So if my data isn’t on my hardware at a location I can access 24/7 it really isn’t my data!!

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• douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I f-ing called it:

  lemmy.world/comment/21195810

  This shit…

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The video where Bezos says that is from Dec 4th 2024 sooooo

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    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Fair fair. I missed that

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    • ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I demand you give me control of your entire life, you can trust me.

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    IMHO this is no different than neurolink. My computers do a great deal of my thinking for me. That’s why FOSS is so important.

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• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Money has never bought brains

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• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Imagine a world where you have been blacklisted from their services because you posted online about the corruption he feeds.

  now imagine how difficult it will be to get or keep a job where you can’t use a computer when 85% of all jobs now require AI “skills”.

  don’t worry, you can work in one of the many warehouses at Amazon…

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  • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nah I’ll be like the old nonna who is the only one who can only make the pannetone the traditional way, but I can connect a GPU to the mobo

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• letsgo2themall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  lol, no.

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• Christobootswiththepher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Internet and access to servers is the first thing that govts turn off when they get uppity.

  Seems like a fatal risk to have online only services.

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  • DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Seems like a fatal risk to have online only services.

    Maybe that’s the whole idea.

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• curiousaur@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So that’s what they meant by techno feudalism.

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• michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Well chucklefuck you need a basic PC to act as the client. You know what kind of computer most people have? A shitty PC good enough to be the fuckin client. Why would they want to pay for a shitty pc to rent another one when they can just use the fucking shitty PC they bought at walmart for 300 for 8 fuckin years like they do now? That is $3 a month amortized beat that bitch.

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  • GenosseFlosse@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    They will sell it like streaming services or printers and ink. The first Amazon PC is free, then the subscription price and amount of ads go up. Eventually people will stick because all their files are there, and their Amazon PC does not support mass storage devices like USB sticks to download all of their work.

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    • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It can’t be free because it costs too much. You need data centers near customers for acceptable latency. You also need a computer to connect to your amazon PC.

      No your phone won’t work. To prove this. Get a really expensive phone that you can a keyboard and display to. This is already a thing right. Run a remote desktop software on your actual PC wired vastly preferred. Now go next door and ensure you have acceptable wifi. Try this out and tell me how it works for you.

      Now imagine it with average wifi which is often terrible in my households with the shitty phones people have creating an experience that is orders of magnitude best case scenario we have created above.

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    • bold_atlas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The first Amazon PC is free

      Whoa lets not go too far off the crazy cliff now.

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• Fokeu@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Could is just a fancy word for giving up your freedoms. You rely on some greedy corporation and for what? What would the benefit even be?

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  • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I quite like that I can access my D&D character sheets or my CV through iCloud. I like that if my phone suddenly exploded my stuff is backed-up. I like that Steam has cloud saves on top of local ones. That is about where it ends, though. The idea of renting a computer, especially from these goons, is completely ridiculous and I hope people don’t validate it just so they can play expensive games(cheaper games needing less intense hardware exist and are often really, really good).

    So, there are clear benefits but you’re right that after a point it’s just not worth it. I’d rather fuck around with emailing myself copies of things than let the entire tech world take over our lives like this.

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• paequ2@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud — hopes that you’ll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

  We’re so doomed. A lot of people will probably buy into this because they can’t possibly be inconvenienced by owning a computer.

  I was talking about AI with someone the other day and they said, “Wow, in the future we probably won’t be able to work without a subscription to ChatGPT. Oh, well.” Like. wat. teh. faq. People see the convenience trap, but can’t be bothered to do anything about it. I hate this timeline.

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• DerdWurst@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Luna has what a million users world wide? Its a drop in the bucket. Stadia failed. Game pass streaming sucks ass. Its never going to take off. How much more money do these cunts need??

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  • i078@europe.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    All of it

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• EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  No thanks, I’m good.

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• selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They also want our cars, they want our homes, they want our lives.

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