He’s not wrong. There is absolute immunity for Trump friendly crimes, also known as presidential pardon.
Yale Posting It's Ls
Submitted 3 weeks ago by UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Not absolute, state charges are not subject to state crimes.
kogasa@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
They don’t need to pardon him. Just put some more armed goons between him and whomever wants to serve justice. They’re already using military force against citizens.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
George W Bush went to Yale. That tells you everything you need to know about their standards.
D_C@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Is the murderer absolutely immune from a person who wants to take revenge?
Yeah, ok, the murderer may never meet his legal and justified consequences but will the Nazi government of america always be there to protect him?Now, obviously, ;-);-) , I’m not saying a person should find this guy and do unto him what he has done unto others. Nope. No way…
jj4211@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is a perspective that the leadership in general should keep in mind.
They are relishing in ignoring laws and treaties and just opting out of consequences. Generally people understand that honoring laws and elections leaves the populace broadly with a sense of justice even with misdeeds and the punishments are, generally, pretty light. Even the light punishments satisfy people.
Continually flaunting these mechanisms and denying people a civilized path to feelings of justice and being heard is a dangerous thing.
It’s why the control bounces back and forth between two sinilar political parties, most people get a sense of “my team won” or “my team will probably win next time” and this placates people. To decide to nope out of these conventions is to invite great risk.
A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
On an unrelated note, for no reason at all
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Schmoo@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Oh you misunderstand, he knows the law well. He just knows how to use it as a tool to protect the elites from accountability and as a bludgeon to punish the people for non-compliance, as well as how to make sure that never gets flipped.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
What he said has nothing to do with law. He just said stuff knowing that nobody will do anything to stop him. Or to stop them.
The law is extremely clear in this regard - the ICE dude murdered a person for no reason. The rules on the use of deadly force literally use a moving car as an example of when not to use deadly force - as long as there are “other defence options, such as moving out of the way”.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
The law is extremely clear in this regard - the ICE dude murdered a person for no reason. The rules on the use of deadly force literally use a moving car as an example of when not to use deadly force - as long as there are “other defence options, such as moving out of the way”.
When the people tasked with upholding the law consistently disregard it in particular circumstances - as they do when it comes to abuse of power by law enforcement - that law only exists in the circumstances in which it is consistently applied. Things like qualified immunity have effectively nullified any law that ostensibly holds law enforcement accountable. The law does not exist for any other purpose except to protect the dominant socioeconomic group in a given country without binding them, while binding the subjugated socioeconomic group without protecting them. Who is in which group is dynamic and always subject to change, but this rule almost always holds except in cases where very skilled lawyers are able to argue in court that someone in the latter group actually belongs to the former in some specific circumstance. That is the law being used for something that it was not designed to do, a bit like an exploit in a video game soon to be patched.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
correct. this is a man that admitted openly to lying about immigrants eating pets to foment hatred to fire up his voter base that already hates immigrants.
laranis@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Had someone unironically suggest that if Trump takes a third term that it would open the way for Obama to run again.
Anyone citing the old order of rules, laws, and fairness is delusional or under informed.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Well, that is how the laws where designed.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
This is such a childish thing to say, my god…
Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
this was such an unhinged rant
Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thiel went to Stanford law ….I think a lot of these evil morons prove that these Ivy League schools are crap
Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Ivy League is overrated, community college and khan academy is underrated
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
100%. I think I did college every possible way (except ivy league). First two years at a small liberal arts college, left because tution went way up and scholarship stayed the same. Three yeara at a big univeraity, where i switched majors and graduated with a bunch of useless paper in time for the 2009 financial crisis. Never found a career and went back to community college for a focused degree. All had good and bad aspects but community college i thought was the best learning experience.
Part of that may have been due to already being loaded up on gen ed credits, so i could focus on just the degree classes. It was also the fact that the teachers were real people who had experience in the field rather than career academics.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Those schools foster a certain way of thinking.
jali67@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
They’re not “smarter”. They just are better connected.
Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Seems like those schools were successful in teaching them how our legal system works and how to use it to advance their own goals. Seems like the only thing they didn’t learn is ethics, but their understanding of our legal system is pretty solid.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’re literally out there committing crimes against international law and the constitution every day
evol@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
What would “teaching” ethics even do, JD Vance has his own ethical framework and to him this all makes sense, presenting him another framework will not change anything.
borQue@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
As expected. The Gestapo did exactly the same 90 years ago. Thanks to Trump evolution did not only stop: it went back 90 years. And the American people (just as the German) cannot do anything to stop him anymore. Sad times, sad times.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We need some Nuremberg trials.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I prefer the Italian method.
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You’d want a stronger girder than they used.
ohmy_science@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And rid the government of maga, a la denazification after ww2
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
jesus fuck im allowed to get the types of immunity wrong im a dipshit. this is just embarrassing im gonna go tease my ivy league educated sister
jali67@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
The country heals when this guy dies. I hope he gets an ending he truly deserves.
Fades@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What clown world are you living in? The cults needs deprogramming, that doesn’t just happen automatically.
Furthermore, all of these corporations and their associated billionaires and whatnot are not just going to pack it up and go back to playing by the rules when this admin wraps in 28.
There is no single that that happens and triggers the country to heal. Media owned by said billionaires have grown true hatred and the like to facilitate in-fighting amongst the people.
Between the culture wars and keeping people sick with inflation and tying healthcare to labor, Trump is a symptom, a useful idiot.
We have much bigger problems that do not start nor end with Trump or his admin.
jali67@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s is all true and what I’ve said doesn’t change. Vance is one of the main people conspiring to “program” the base for his billionaire owners.
Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
evol@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
People who talk about how college makes you “Enlightened”, “Well Rounded”, etc. always baffle me. These elite prestigious institutions graduate some of the most evil and diabolical human beings driven purely by greed and prestige. Socrates was wrong guys you don’t have to keep defending him
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
People who talk about how college makes you “Enlightened”, “Well Rounded”, etc. always baffle me.
Being a young twenty year old living apart from your parents among your peers with lots of free time to study and develop your talents enlightens you and rounds you out.
Universities are great because they facilitate that kind of social and intellectual development.
These elite prestigious institutions graduate some of the most evil and diabolical human beings driven purely by greed and prestige.
Evil people congregate in everywhere. I wouldn’t put this on universities specifically
evol@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Being a young twenty year old living apart from your parents among your peers with lots of free time to study and develop your talents enlightens you and rounds you out.
I really never got this from my time at university, I guess I’m curious what “enlightenment” you felt you got out of it.
Evil people congregate in everywhere. I wouldn’t put this on universities specifically
Agreed but I get annoyed at people who have this idea of if we just educate everyone -> utopia and that conservatism is a function of undereducation, just look at what party german universities supported in the 1930s. It leads to kind of whigist thinking where we see more education happening -> more enlightened people -> better people when in the end its really just a tool
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Socrates was wrong guys
Yeah, he was, about a lot. But what specifically do you mean?
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But the paid thug is operating under directive from really really wealthy people.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
its
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
The lawyers that Yale and Harvard have turned out, have become a scourge on our nation. Close down both of those Psychopath Factories.
seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
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T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Trumps gonna want to give the murderer the congressional medal of honour
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
As president of congress he’ll get right on that