Infosys co-founder once again calls for longer than 70-hour weeks - and no, he's not joking

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• oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Fuck that! We should be aiming for 21-28 hours being the normal length of the employed week for everyone everywhere, and it not being necessary to work any more than that unless you want to for yourself. We can’t accelerate forever, we need to do less work hours and have good quality of life, otherwise what’s even the point of technology?

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• kautau@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “You worked really hard this year. 60 hour weeks. Impressive but you can do more. See that rolls Royce in the parking lot? If you work 80 hour weeks next year and everything works out, I’ll be able to buy a second one.”

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• WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Japan has a habit of doing this. The birth rate cratered, productivity is not that great and economic growth is famously low. Most workers do a form of performance theater, an actual “we pretend to work”.

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• palmtrees2309@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  MoFo wants 80 hour work week and pays 4,353 USD per year to Indian CS graduates.

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• FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨47⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  And yes, he’s ragebaiting

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• echo@lemmings.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh fuck off, asshole… you need to be thrown in prison.

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  • lectricleopard@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He needs to take a long walk, on a short pier.

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    • cv_octavio@piefed.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Into the warm embrace of a hungry octopus…

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• Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There is a large body of research out there regarding 12h shift work in healthcare. I’m only linking 1 article, a quick search will yield more, easily.

  A TLDR on it: 12h shifts decrease performance. Stacking them decreases safety and performance, cumulatively. Car accidents pick up significantly on day 4.

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s utter madness that healthcare professionals are allowed to work (in many countries) longer than truck drivers. It’s even more ridiculous that many countries have a medical doctor internship program that is designed by an absolute cocaine fiend assigning 30 hour days - and see nothing wrong with it.

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      There’s less errors overall in having consistency in who healthcare reports off to between shifts. The 17% is balanced out by that (math wise). The errors in having 3 people reporting around an 8hr clock are significantly higher than with the 12hr clock.

      But a 4th shift? Staying over to 16hrs? The 36hr week, I feel, is the extent to which you can safely take the 12h shift.

      Additional madness is in that, in 26 states, the administrators of hospitals can hold shift workers over into double shifts. I don’t know about you, but I lose the capacity to read words around hour 18. Yet, this practice is engaged routinely in health care, without regard to sleep patterns. Maybe it is an 8h shift. Maybe that person spent day shift in school then went to work for an evening shift. Now is being held on their license to stay a night shift. And expected to drive home after more than 24hrs awake. Maybe their babysitter leaves at midnight. How good and safe is that patient care going to be?

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    • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      US: Truck driver crashing causes property damage, patients dieing causes the bed to open up for another paying customer.

      Rest of the world: Shortages due to cost of education along with not enough spots available for said education.

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    • lectricleopard@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Capitalism protects the capital (goods, and equipment, on a truck), and values human lives at approx $3 million (based on financial cost for the company when a life is lost).

      The value of the truck and the contents of the trailer are frequently greater than the value of the driver for a given trip, and therefore justify more caution and care than any given patient in a doctor’s office.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      probably the shortage problems, and unwillingness for the industry to alleviate the problem. and the pipeline from college to health professional is long and grueling. MD IS heavily gatekeeped by the license certification association.

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  • Hylactor@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Am I missing the article link?

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Yes, I failed to paste the copy. After a 12 hour shift.

      pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4629843/

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    • confusedwiseman@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Let’s try this one

      pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7695681/

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s not showing on my client either, hopefully they edit their comment.

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  • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Apparently it’s about reducing shift changes, which is when most mistakes happen. You would have to hope that someone has done research into mistakes caused by fatigue vs. mistakes caused by shift changes.

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      In the healthcare environment that is true. 12h shifts retain consistency between back and forth reporting, while with 8hr shifts things get lost or missed or misinterpreted in the handoff.

      My point is that 3 is the sweet spot, it’s the 4th and fifth shifts that become cumulatively bad and result in increased car accidents on the commute.

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  • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Someone told me that the reason for 12 hour shifts is that most medical mistakes and accidents happen because of shift changes. Reducing the number of shift changes from 3 to 2 results in fewer mistakes, despite longer working hours.

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    • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      This is true. It also results in less intershift rancor. But it doesn’t change the difficulties of 4th and 5th shifts in the same week.

      I’m all for turning a 40hr/5day work week into a 36hr/3day work week. It works well in 24hr professions.

      What I’m not for is this 996 nonsense.

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    • Azhad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Not really, a huge cocaine user came up with the system, and we use it since then because “it’s as we always have done it!!”

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• Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I do not understand his logic.

  Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)

  Someone working 70 hours is a mindless drone. This is how you get 13" iPads accidentally sold for 15€ “because the computer said so” (happened in a big box retailer in my country, no human involved in the process objected the price until WEEKS after the sale, when accounting noticed it, and they had to beg customers “pwease return our €1000 iPads and we give you a €25 gift card as a token of gratitude” and everyone just laughed about that)

  Especially for developers, for the same price is better to get two that can do tasks with full attention rather than a single one that after 12 hours of job is just mindlessly clicking on “accept” on whatever a LLM is spitting out or half assing solutions because don’t have the right state of mind to think for a proper one.

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  • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨29⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)

    I mean it isn’t, but the difference is like marginal, but you get added costs like more hardware,more HR needed ( after a certain number of people) It support for those people etc.

    But really it’s penny pinching.

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  • hanrahan@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)

    What he wants is to pay one person for 70hrs, the same as he’d pay one person for 35 hrs.

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      AND he will massively underpay that worker for their 35 hours.

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• Somecall_metim@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  He doesn’t work that hard, so why the fuck should we?

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  • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He probably thinks he works 80 hour weeks because he is including schmoozing with clients and company paid lunches and dinners as “work”

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  • throws_lemy@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “This is nothing. When I was young, I worked 80 hours a week”, Murthy probably

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    • count_dongulus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      These are the little fuckwits that pretend waiting on a phone call back from someone counts as working time. Their “work” would consist of the company paying for their meals and outings to go play golf woth potential clients.

      Oh, you want me to go play golf with this guy using the company card and then go for dinner and drinks? Do some soft sales, just having regular conversation? Sure, I’ll take that “work”. Man, it’s tough. Nobody works 80 hour weeks like me.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We pretend to work

    They pretend to pay us

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• gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  He should work himself to death alone and leave us with a better world

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• krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I am not an advocate of slavery generally speaking but I do think that it is a just and righteous thing to enslave someone like this and to use them for backbreaking labour for 20 hours per day.

  Like. Make it pointless too. Dig this hole. Fill that hole. Dig it again.

  Feed them stuff you find in dumpsters. Beat them if their hole digging is going to slow. Test cosmetics on them. Sell them to be used for sex.

  That seems right to me.

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  • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    weird revenge fetish

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You’re using the word “slavery” rhetorically, more or less, but in the eyes of a Sociopathic Oligarch, we are already living on literal slave wages. They couldn’t imagine living on the average annual income in this country, but they expect us to, and work harder on top of it.

    They would pay us nothing, like the olden days, but then they’d have to cover our food and housing, and that would cost them more. So they pay us just barely enough to keep us from revolting.

    We are already slaves.

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    • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No I’m not.

      I mean we literally force people like this into irons and force them to work under threat of corporal punishment.

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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• NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ok I’ll do 70 hour weeks as long as it promises I am also a billionaire by retirement. So that’ll be a salary of 21 million a year please.

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  • Lon3star@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Exactly, I’ll work my ass off for a year or two, but them I’m out

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    • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You won’t be out when your rent is a million per month and groceries are 100k.

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    By retirement?

    I’d expect majority shares in any company I worked that much for, AND a 7-figure salary.

    And retirement would be in 5 years.

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• veeesix@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So 6 days of 12-hour shifts? Sounds like a pretty novel way to tank your economy because no one’ll have the time to spend money or raise a family.

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  • showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Absolutely! The short sighted idiocy of this really points out the corporate thinking only about the next Q. This would get maybe a month before the economic crash

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  • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Why aren’t the proles making babies? I specifically requested it!”

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• the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • cecilkorik@piefed.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Looks very nicely built I would be pleased to have one of these in my home.

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    • voytrekk@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Far too nice. No need for the blade to be so sharp and free of rust.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      or do it the old fasioned way in , like with scimitar.

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• hellothere@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Talk about telling on yourself having no idea how to run a business.

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• PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Good luck finding talent, dickhead

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• flamiera@kbin.melroy.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What a megalomaniac.

  Yeah he's inspired by a system which country banned it and yet he still wants it?

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• Rhyfel@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We don’t eat enough billionaires

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  • Zier@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That's because they taste extremely bitter and putrid. I suggest we just eject them into space towards the sun, and make them pay for it.

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    • addie@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      The amount of fuel required to launch them into the sun is more than is required to eject the from the solar system completely, it’s not very efficient.

      Although putrid, they remain a valuable source of protein and nutrients. As a more carbon-efficient alternative, I suggest tying some waste stone around their feet and chucking them into the sea. Something in the depths will eat them.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      you gotta drain all the blood out of a carcass before you eat it

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• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Revive a debate? Really? In that case, I’m reviving the debate for redistributing Murthy’s net wealth to all citizens as UBI.

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• neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Some billionaires are saying shorter work weeks be used of AI, some are saying longer.

  If this just a way for us to be “grateful” for things to remain the same?

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  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’ll be longer. AI will be there to accelerate the cadence, turning “knowledge workers” from artisans who have the relative luxury of solving problems autonomously at their workstations intro assembly-line labour who hurriedly sling prompts and patch up botshit.

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    • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Rotshit, botshit, dirty old twot

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• Balldowern@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  When his stocks tank as people leave his company in droves, he would realise. Always hit them where it hurts - their wallets.

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• MuskyMelon@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Infosys is a shitty boss that would contract for 2 resources but only assign 1 to do the work. That’s why he wants 80 hours per headcount.

  This is why I’m somewhat happy that AI would render extinct companies like Infosys, Wipro, etc.

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  • chocrates@piefed.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Infosys is slimy enough they will find a way to survive

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• Australis13@fedia.io ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I'm sure these idiots have no concept of the future. They want to burn everyone out in months to years for the sake of boosting their profits in the here and now. Doesn't matter that if you treat your workers well (and pay them well) you often get greater productivity over a longer period.

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