stupid meme for stupid people that don’t actually know how much a pc costs
PC Master Race
Submitted 5 months ago by MTZ@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 5 months ago
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Over 7 years, you’d have to pay $560 to play online on a PS5, assuming they don’t increase the price again. The cheapest PS5, without the disc drive (which is a bad decision if you like cheap games), costs $500.
You can easily build a PC more powerful than a PS5 for $1060.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Over those 7 years, you get 252 free games for the PS5. Meaning the average value of those games has to be like 2.2 for the subscription to pay for itself
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They’re not free, you had to pay to access them. The 252 are useless unless you play them and not just a half-dozen titles you like.
bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 months ago
It would be great if consoles could be used as computers, selecting which use you want on boot. With the current console’s power they could be used as a regular computer.
MTZ@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Rumor has it that’s what the next gen XBox is going to be.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
So a Steam Deck basically
bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 months ago
Yes. But the other consoles could do it also.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
That’s pretty much a Steam Deck. I’m assuming the Fremont will be the same.
underscores@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
guys, it’s rage bait, you don’t have to defend a strawman
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 months ago
When did “trolling” turn into “rage baiting?”
underscores@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I think trolling and troll logic is absurdist and humorous where as rage bait is all about engagement farming by inducing negative emotions
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 5 months ago
My gaming PC is also a digital audio workstation, a photo editing platform, a video editing platform, a home theatre PC, and a platform for spreadsheets and financial planning.
OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I’ve never been happy with the performance of my gaming PC for the cost, always seems like it should perform better, but the real reason I don’t buy consoles is because I want to be able to upgrade my hardware but still play my old games.
Hazzard@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Honestly, the strongest advantage of PC, if you don’t mind a little tinkering, is modding. I’ve modded on console before, and it’s usually a pretty difficult process, and limited, compared to PC. The thing I find a little silly, is I did build the super expensive PC, and most of what I play would totally run on a console if they were open platforms.
But seriously, Celeste: Strawberry Jam was probably my favourite game of last year. I’m looking so forward to the release of the Fusion Collab, likely in the next year.
I’ve been playing Archipelagos with friends over the past couple months with Hollow Knight and Nine Sols, and they’ve been a blast.
Emulation is also wild, tons of games I’ve enjoyed in the past, playable again with incredible mod support, I’m looking very forward to playing Kaze’s Return to Yoshi’s Island when it releases, and had a blast with the Majora’s Mask Recomp earlier this year.
And steam sales are ridiculous, a lot of these games are much cheaper much more regularly on PC.
If I’d spent say, 500$ on this PC, it would be very easy to save that amount in the price of games, and how many fewer games you’d need to fill your time with all these options, in just a couple years, assuming you play regularly.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Celeste: Strawberry Jam
Bro how did I not know this existed
Hazzard@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
It’s seriously so good, cannot recommend it enough if you enjoyed the original. It also smoothed out the difficulty curve enough, bouncing back and forth between the modded levels and a fresh playthrough of the base game, that I was finally able to beat the Farewell DLC and 100% the game. Without too much difficulty, even, the modded levels were a joy and had such excellent practice rooms to learn the necessary advanced skills as I went up the ranks.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Can’t run deluge on my ps5
IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
What console sells for 400 bucks?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Switch 1.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This meme is from like 2014
Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 months ago
PS5 (discless edition) did until the USD took an almighty shit.
paultimate14@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’ll get you… The lowest storage tier Series S. Or a Nintendo Switch OLED. Yay.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
TFW the good games are on console and you dont need to pay 2k to play them.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 5 months ago
No one but the once in a blue moon whales are spending 15,000 on a rig. The average rig I build for people is under 1,000 and the setups I see online are usually near there too.
socsa@piefed.social 5 months ago
I have a dual 5090 threadripper rig with 192 GB of RAM and it cost $10k. To get to $15k you’d have to actually be trying to waste money.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Even On Falcon Northwests website I could only get the bill to 10,000 while I was trying to waste money and they are one of the most overpriced pc builders I know of.
Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Good, but nowadays the gap is more $800/$3000.
My console from 2020 runs games about the same as PC hardware from 2018. If you built a 2018 spec PC today it would beat the Xbox Series X and PS5, but unlike the consoles, PC components have reduced in price.
Which means the gap with available hardware and matched SSD size would be $650 to $900
Thorry@feddit.org 5 months ago
That’s a lot of words to say you are jealous
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
some $2k beats a console and you get more games, cheaper price, and can do whatever you want with it
so if you’re already getting a computer, it just makes sense
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
This argument made more sense 20 years ago. Now there’s a lot more people who just don’t need a desktop.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
idk about that. I have both and I still prefer using the desktop at home because I can get a much nicer performance out of it than connecting an external display to the laptop. Even for ordinary things like watching a YT video it makes a difference.
magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 5 months ago
Yeah, but I can use my PC for other things as well (I’m only using my PC for gaming)
TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 months ago
I have editing stuff on my pc. Music, art, video.
But since i got my steam deck i realize how much i only used the pc for games.Eventually im going to Linux the thing. But I’m dreading the time sink that’ll be.
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I miss the days when $500 could build a “console killer”
Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Yeah, but all those people buying wonky 2GB “PS4 equivalent” GPUs ended up pretty quiet when games later in the generation started using more and more VRAM.
The PS4 CPU was a joke, but it could use a lot of textures.
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It really depends on whether you want the newest games with 128k graphics. I game on a 5 year old Thinkpad* and a first gen switch and am happy about it.
*granted, it was refurbished and still like 2700€, but the same laptop would be cheaper today
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 5 months ago
I miss the days when $500 were enough to buy a console.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Wasn’t that just around the second half of the PS360 generation and the PS4 era until crypto blew up?
PCs were always pretty expensive since my childhood in the 1980s.
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I want to say late 2000’s to early 2010’s was when my friends and I all built our own PCs for about $500.
poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
You still easily can with second hand components.
Steve@startrek.website 5 months ago
Thanks etherium
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
These days its like 1500. But you still get all the advantages like being able to do whatever you want with it like using productive software to actually do work.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It is nowhere near 1500.
More like 800.
For a nice PC that will last you a while 1100 (for like a 9600 + 9060XT)
missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
You will also most likely still make that difference back over the cycle of one console generation through better game deals and no subscription fees for online play.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That was a brief period when consoles were way over priced for the components they had.
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I recall it being a period of at least 10 years. A prior generation GPU would run about $150-200. The CPU/Mobo was the most expensive part
paultimate14@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Nah it’s the GPU market. Cryptocurrency briefly exploded and now AI is sucking up all of the GPU manufacturing capacity. Back in 2019 I got my RX580 for $175. The AMD 9070 that released this year is a tier down from that and had an MSRP of $550, but an actual price more like $650. The sweet spot of value PC building has shifted from $750 to $1,500 in just a few years. Some of that is just general inflation that affects all parts, but roughly half of that increase is just from the GPU.
It’s impacting consoles too. Consoles uses to get cheaper over time, with both price drops to existing models and new, cheaper models being released (Sony’s Slim models, things like the Wii Family Edition and Wii Mini, the DSLite, etc). Looking at this generation… The original PS5 with a disc drive debuted at $500 in 2020. The “Slim” version also debuted at $500, and just got a price increase to $550. They released a PS5 Pro at $700, and just increased it to $750.
Nintendo is doing it too. The Switch was $300 for its entire life, and now that the Switch 2 is out consumers would typically expect a price cut to move the existing stock. Instead, Nintendo raised the price to $330. The OLED model went from $350 to $400, and the Lite went from $200 to $230.
And of course Microsoft is in on it too. It’s more complicated to write up since they have different storage variants of the Series S|X, but for example a Series S 512GB was $300 at launch (For some reason I remember seeing them for $250, but maybe that was a Black Friday sale or something). Now it’s $400!
poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
That period repeats every 3-5 years approximatly towards the end of a generation but before the new generation is announced.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They will be the same people who say, “I only spent a little bit more than a console, but look how much better it is. What’s the point of a console anymore?”
anon5621@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Well nowadays the main argument for me become what to play on console? There no exclusives games anymore so why I would buy it if I can build PC which would be universal tool with ability to play most of old games using emulators and connect gamepad ,and modern games available for PC same as to console
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Ghost of Yotei is still a PS5 exclusive (and it’s damn good)
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I brought the ps5 around when it released. At the time, prices for pc parts were crazy. I decided to get the ps5 due to that, and it was a solid choice at the time. I was finally able to build a PC near the end of 2023 when prices dropped. I wanted a higher end one, so it still cost me around 2k. I love both of them.
As for the exclusives, there were some and even timed ones to me count a little. I played god of war, horizon, and final fantasy rebirth and 16 day one. I also enjoyed astro bot and its follow up, spider man miles, racket and clank, last of us 2, and ghosts of tsushima. Im still on tbe fence of getting ghosts of yotei, but it’s also a limited exclusive. You also have upcoming games like Marvels Wolverine, Intergalactic: the heretic project, and knights of the old republic. Its getting to be less and less, but i also think it has a lot to do with how long it takes for a game to come out on top of not forcing games as much as they used to.
almost1337@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
My office (and thus my computer) is between my kids’ bedrooms. If I want to game after they go to bed I either can’t have voice comms or go game on my TV downstairs.
Also, I already spend 8+ hours a day in my office working so I often don’t want to be in there for my decompression time.
OR3X@lemmy.world 5 months ago
My excuse these days is… I already built the damned thing. If there’s a game I want to play I can just upgrade it for (in most cases) less than the cost of a console + game to play the new game I want. PC gaming offers a lot of flexibility in that way.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Consoles have always been appealing to me due to price and ease of use compared to PCs. It was the trade-off for having a locked-down system. But with the price gouging on both hardware and games nowadays, that advantage has gotten smaller and smaller. I suspect the PS5 was my last console and I’ll be getting lower end gaming PCs from here on out. Consoles just don’t make financial sense any more.
Cort@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Oof, if you think the gouging is bad on consoles, wait till you look at GPU prices. I haven’t owned a console in almost a decade, but the price advantage is still on the console side.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Yeah, that’s why I said lower-end gaming PCs. The savings on games and online play is immense over time, especially when you factor in 🏴☠️.