Cool, cool cool cool. Nothing dystopian about that at all.
OP is learning about archive.org for the first time?
Apparently Palantir can access the content of social media accounts that were deleted a decade ago.
Submitted 5 months ago by destructdisc@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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TORFdot0@lemmy.world 5 months ago
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Oh great the second I become president my DeviantArt is getting leaked
ohlaph@lemmy.world 5 months ago
“deleted” eh?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Maybe don’t get nazi tattoos then.
Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I don’t live in Maine anymore, but his handling of this, and clear stance on other issues important to me, have actually strengthened my willingness to vote for him was I still in the state.
I actually believe him when he says he got it while drunk on a night off with the marines, supposed not knowing the meaning at the time. He then went on to say he immediately scheduled to cover it because getting it removed would have taken too much time to figure out because Maine doesn’t have any places that do it. Like he wanted that shit no longer visible on his body asap and went out of his way to get it done sooner than later.
Similarly with LGBTQ+ rights. Yeah he said some edgy shit on the Internet a long time ago, but he’s said he’s changed and now aggressively supports queer rights in Maine. Idk, maybe he’ll pull a Fetterman, but I don’t get that vibe.
Even if he is still in the process of fully deconstructing things, he is clearly taking the correct actions in the here and now to further that process.
I grew up with people like him and almost without fail, when I actually sat down and had real conversations with them as adults, they’ve been positive and minds have been changed in all directions.
Blue collar Mainers are some of the first people to hate billionaires, and fiercely support small government, personal freedoms and privacy. This honestly means supporting queer rights in so far as they want the freedom to be themselves too. They have been systematically lied to by a party that doesn’t actually want small government or personal liberties, and many of them have realized that.
We need to be able to welcome these people willing to be educated, and genuinely capable of changing their thinking and their ways. These people are closeted radical leftists. We will need them on board.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 months ago
What is it with this site and hating “libs” like it feels like Twitter with the Trump goons.
kandoh@reddthat.com 5 months ago
Users like techcrit have Glen Greenwald syndrome
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
They’re the remnants of last year’s propaganda campaign. No one bothered to deprogram them. They tend to fire off their lines at unpredictable times like a toddlers toy with a low battery.
tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Palantir is an evil company.
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
This was pretty evident the second they named their company over the tool used by The Dark Lord Sauron and Saruman to spy on the actions of others from Lord of the Rings.
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yup, data archival. Now imagine this future: right now, encrypted data transfers may be wire-tapped and stored. When quantum computers are available, all that traffic will be decryptable. This includes pretty much all general HTTPS traffic since TLS mostly uses ECDHE for key exchange which isn’t quantum secure.
I bet nation state actors are recording everything they can.pool_spray_098@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Damn, dude… that’s insane and I’m surprised it’s never occurred to me.
I’ve had the realization before as I realize that maybe my password database will eventually be easily cracked… but there’s no reason it cannot apply to data in transit as well, as long as someone is recording it.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Sure. As far as I can tell Palantir sells the software that police, ICE and the military use to Face ID suspects, including “aliens” and Osama Bin Laden (way back when that happened).
eve@evecodes.com 5 months ago
What’s posted to the internet, STAYS on the internet. Forever. Stay safe friens
eveskeets@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Bookmarked
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 5 months ago
It was forensics. They used forensics. Ai did not help, probably got a bit in the way even. You can do these things with data. We told you several times
Ironfist79@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Anything ever posted online can be archived and searched later. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to cross reference publicly available sources along with subpoenaed data.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I think even Facebook said years ago it’s less taxing on the systems to unlink content rather than delete it.
Liz@midwest.social 5 months ago
Yeah but that’s basically how deleting works for any normal system. You remove the pointer telling the computer where the data is, then you flag that section of data as free for writing to. It’s not until something writes over the data is it truly gone.
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You don’t need AI for this, just a ton of money for storage and either tolerance for a slow query (like 15-20 minutes) or an engineer who knows what they’re doing in search.
AsyncTheYeen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Imagine thinking your privacy is above profit where capitalism rules lmao
You muricas are too dumb to understand that nothing has more power than money on a profit driven society like yours, like the ones your stupid elite forced upon every country’s throat as they could
Your “market freedom” is actually money dictatorship, EUA is not a free country
Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
TIL America is the only capitalist country
AsyncTheYeen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
No! Read my comment again, it’s the only country that bomb other countries that do not want to participate in this prehistoric system
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 5 months ago
Don’t just be made at palantir.
The American government funded palantir.
Angelevo@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Q. uell. Sur… prise ~
scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Fuckers should help me restore my old academic portfolio then. Might as well put living in a dystopian surveillance state to helpful use.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 months ago
It seems like these sorts of things can be used against you, but whenever it might actually benefit you they always come up short.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 months ago
I was screaming this when COVID first hit.
solrize@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Probably the Pushshift archive which is publicly downloadable.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Who’s the cute guy?
Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 months ago
Like, they’ve been able to do this for 25 odd years.
There were gov data centers with thousands of petabytes when I was in college. Prism had the gov archiving every phone call and all internet traffic back in '08…
This is not news.
As soon as the quantum cryptography tech gets there, they’ll start decrypting the signal and matrix chats you had yesterday.
Privacy is illusory and temporary.
reddifuge@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The US governmentnis temporary.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Depends on what the people organize to fight to protect.
Unfortunately, I don’t have confidence in the American people to fight for the correct option.
DSN9@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The
stasigovernment would never use my data against me. I’ve got nothing to hide. Hey I think I’ll go buy this doadd for no reason at all no subliminal advertising
CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 5 months ago
So like internet archive? oooo spooky
AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The scary dystopian part is the ability to work out that the account belonged to someone who hadn’t used it for a decade rather than just that they could see what had been posted. The Internet Archive doesn’t let you ask it what someone’s Digg username was.
CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 5 months ago
So you acknowledge that the data exists, what you are scared of is being able to search it? Spooky stuffs.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Once you put anything on the public internet these days, it will be harvest by corporations and used against you eventually
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think we all should keep speaking up.
bystander@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Be unpredictable
ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
There was a browser extension back in the day that ran junk searches to poison whatever data they were harvesting on you. Sounds like it needs to make a comeback.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Pretty sure they also have access to banned Reddit accounts whose users can no longer access their history to know what they will be judged and profiled for, too.
Just assume every social network either allows this directly or enables a third party to do it, Lemmy specially.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Lemmy is explicitly public. I don’t think that’s much of a stretch.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Remimds me of when everyone was deleting their posts around the API blackout and suddenly the next day it was like Reddit did a restore from checkpoint and all of the edited posts and deleted posts came right back. I for one had to run the script that replaced then delete my posts twice, but that’s besides the point.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What script is this?
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I used this in the past, not sure itll still work, it worked with old.reddit a few years back
greasyfork.org/en/scripts/…/code
there’s otherones that edit comments as opposed to deleting them, either way reddit keeps a copy, just fyi
dontpanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Same, but then a bunch of mine popped up again sometime in the last few months. Not exactly sure when, and it wasn’t all of them.
I didn’t run the replace script tho, I wish I would’ve.
PDFuego@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Did they actually come back or did a bunch of comments not show up in your profile because the subs were private so they didn’t get deleted, then they reappeared when the subs reopened? I thought some of mine were restored too, but it was a combination of that and the tool I used only hitting the most recent 1000.
couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Indeed, replacing the posts with irrelevant jibberish was the way
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 5 months ago
For some time now, I have written stuff on the internet under the assumption that one day, my identity will be publicly tied to everything I wrote. Surely in the future it will be easy to give an example of my writing to an AI bot, perhaps combined with some facts about my life, and the bot would be able to find anonymous posts that were likely written by me, across the internet.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Hot. Hot, hot, hot.
Convinced we somehow ended up in the darkest timeline.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Just in time for the genocide of free thinkers. Lucky us!
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
As a software engineer I was a little shocked when I learned our company treats “Delete” buttons as a means to toggle Archived = 1 in the DB. Nothing is actually deleted. Sure we will anonymise the data after a certain time to be GDPR compliant but it would be trivial I guess to actually link that back to people.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 months ago
My current workplace doesn’t have for foresight to do that. Delete fully deletes immediately and without confirmation. Oh and the backups have been broken for years
On the upside, recent changes in leadership and on the team made it so we finally have the political will and talent in the right places to actually put effort into fixing backups but they have a lot of technical debt to sift through in fixing the last folks’ mistakes and oversights
ranzispa@mander.xyz 5 months ago
I’m pretty sure GDPR requires websites to abide to user requests to delete their data. You may wish to review that with your company.
SanguineBrah@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
The GDPR applies to data pertaining to an identifiable person. Anonymised data is more or less equivalent to deleted data as far as the regulation is concerned. Source: I was a DPO for 5 years.
viking@infosec.pub 5 months ago
The requirement exists unless the company is under legal obligation to retain something. I had one case where I requested a GDPR data dump followed by a full deletion, and apparently whoever executed the request deleted first and then processed the dump, so I was able to see that what they did was change my email address from username@mail.tld to username#mail.tld@company.tld - meaning that login attempts, password resets etc. would clearly fail, and a further attempt to request my data revolving around my email address would be unsuccessful, but ultimately all my data was still accessible somewhere. Whether they’d then proceed to delete it after the retention period, who knows. I intended to follow up but forgot…
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There’s no independent audit for GDPR compliance so the only way to know would be if someone whistleblows. There are also so many loopholes that allows to keep the data like “to prevent further abuse” or “some legal reason”.
So if reddit bans your account they can keep all data and you can’t do anything about it even with GDPR.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The org i used to work for had to develop a special process to delete user data upon request, it was not an easy process in dynamics365
if you want something deleted you best destroy the hard disk yourself lol
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’d work if it was encrypted and you tgrew away the encryption key on delete
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
That’s basically how deleting data from a hard drive works too.
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Not quite, deletion from a hard drive also unflags the space the data was located at as being in use, so it will be overwritten eventually so long as the drive continues to have things written to it. Simply flagging something as being archived means that information will remain on the server indefinitely, the exact opposite of what is intended by a delete button.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Psh I’m surprised you’re surprised. The only way to really get rid of data is microwave or magnet, no?
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
drill bit*
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
I guess I’m naive and believe people would be honest.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What’s stopping them from lying about this? They lie about literally everything, why should anyone believe them about anything at all?
Dragonstaff@leminal.space 5 months ago
Lying that they have the Reddit comments that they showed everyone?
Anyway, Reddit is one of the most scraped sites on the internet. Be sure that everyone who wants an archive of Reddit has an archive of Reddit. Anything you put on the internet is forever.
I don’t exactly mean to say this is nothingburger, but it is one of the less interesting bits of living in a dystopia and is too low on the list of evil shit Palantir is doing to care that much about.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 months ago
“Deleted”
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
The real enemy inside is the government, not the people.
People need to keep their government under more surveillance than the government does its people.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Maybe someone should visit their offices