I’ll make One guess.
“Starting today, new documents in Word desktop on Windows (Insiders) now save directly to OneDrive, with autosave enabled,”
Yeah.
Microsoft just changed where your Word documents live — here’s why it matters
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markz@suppo.fi 2 days ago
Jramskov@feddit.dk 2 days ago
Index it all and train our AI on it.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Sell all your data to the Christian corporate fascist dictatorship, so they can use it to wage psychological and economic warfare on a global scale.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I’d say for most, the autosave will come in handy. So many times there’s been a project and someone at the least minute freaks out over their document being gone
insight06@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
They could have easily implemented autosave and versioning on your local machine. They chose to gate it behind keeping your documents in the cloud for profit-motivated reasons.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
Could someone tell Microsoft I switched to Linux ten years ago? They don’t have to encourage me anymore.
yesman@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Onedrive is Microsoft’s attempt to make Home Windows users a revenue source by making it a subscription service. This has been SOP in smart phones for a decade now.
mephiska@fedia.io 1 day ago
Makes me wonder if there is something in the terms that allows them to use documents stored on onedrive to train AI. Adobe is doing the same bullshit and keeps pushing you to send PDFs as Adobe cloud links instead of directly attaching the file to an email. They're doing everything they can to get your data on their servers.
We're no longer the customer. We're the product.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Most likely, there is. In very small print.
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
You can disable the Outlook addon that nags you about Adobe cloud, btw. Small part of the puzzle, but it helps.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
WHY?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 hours ago
Is there no longer a “save as…” option to select where you want to save the file? 🤔
WereCat@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
There is
DudenessBoy@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I love watching the world burn while I use Linux and LibreOffice.
Bunbury@feddit.nl 10 hours ago
I just wish work didn’t force me to take a front seat and interact with MS products anyway.
Joelk111@lemmy.world 1 day ago
LibreOffice is so refreshing after dealing with MSOffice’s bullshit and Google’s web-based solution.
TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Wish M$ would just go full Sega and give Linux official multiplayer support. They suck giant Ds for making anticheat windows only.
Saltarello@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It matters not if you use Libre Office
beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Yup. Haven’t used Word in decades.
dbtng@eviltoast.org 11 hours ago
I’ve been watching this thread, expected to hear this, but not yet …
I know Google’s office products are essentially the same problem, but they are at very least free (in dollars).
I haven’t used MS Office in years. We use Google at work. I use my NextCloud at home.Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You know how many times I’ve had to tell someone that document they created and have been working on for days was never saved even once and can’t really be recovered?
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Lemme guess, hundreds-to-thousands, also the people you’re telling it to have business degrees and $100K+ salaries?
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 days ago
$1000/hr billing rates yes. Maybe 10 ppl/year.
myplacedk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I remember this. From the 90’s.
Autosave has existed AND been the default so long that taking it for granted is now actually okay.
This is not related cloud storage or corporates spying on users. It’s just autosave. That’s all it takes.
greasewizard@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
well now you’ll have to instruct them on how to find anything they saved in onedrive
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s what they changed. It’s saved to onedrive by default now.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 2 days ago
I’m sure that won’t be an issue for anybody working with confidential, privileged or private information.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I would be shocked if this hasn’t had some set of controls to disable it in Group Policy for months now.
This is just rent seeking against Home users.
People with One Drive through corporate Azure sjbscriptions (rather than the free “you have a microsoft login” tier) already have fairly robust controls available for handling and securing private data. There’s even special Azure tiers for government work that are even further secured.
This is only going to impact home users and conpanies without strong IT teams. Which is an egregious amount of people, don’t get me wrong. It’s also a horrible anti-consumer move. But this isn’t “Microsoft fucks over their golden calf: business users”.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 1 day ago
As a us organization you can choose between different MS cloud tiers. I know about 3, the basic tier for private customers, tier4 for large corporations and tier 5 for us gov and military organizations. My guess would be that it has something to do with which 3 letter agency can access your cloud data.
kalkulat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
" Word will now save new documents to OneDrive by default — and that changes everything" Wouldn’t it be great if all your docs were stored out in the cloud? Just think, you wouldn’t need a hard drive! And someone else could guard them for you, like, say, Deputy Dan. descope.kwwhitaker.com/wallofscience.html
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Meanwhile in LibreOffice-land…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You’ll have to take that up with my CTO.
stoly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Didn’t this already happen? I feel like it’s been the default for a long time now.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Honestly, even as a privacy guy, this makes sense. SkyDrive was unique in giving people 30GB, plus 5GB if you turned on photo upload (even if you turned it right back off). So even without paying, my OneDrive is still 35GB. That’s plenty for documents.
What Windows 10+ does with backing stuff up to OneDrive and sharing it across builds is smart, if not the best execution. I kind of have that between my Macs and iPhone with Safari bookmarks and passwords.
I would be asking how safe OneDrive is and if it had any major breaches, if I were a Windows user. I’m actually using iWork and iCloud though, and I trust that a little more, but OneDrive doesn’t seem that problematic to me. There’s a lot I don’t like about Microsoft, but OneDrive doesn’t earn any ire from me. Should it? (Probably not since I’m a Mac user and it’s all abstract anyway.)
4am@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
MS will probably use everyone’s documents to train AI and build profiles on you. I’m not sure there are any guarantees that your information is stored or transmitted entirely E2EE.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
i have a cracked version of 365 office or is it an earlier version, so it stays on my pc with no connection to onedrive at all.
Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Counterpoint, I lost an unknown number of files (unknown because I have no idea what all I failed to recover) years ago when my OneDrive backup filled up and my attempts to clear out space in the cloud backup propogated to my local storage, deleting everything I had in my local documents folder.
rodneylives@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
On the other hand… osnews.com/…/dark-patterns-killed-my-wifes-window…
lightsblinken@lemmy.world 1 day ago
nope.
altphoto@lemmy.today 1 day ago
It doesn’t. Friends don’t let friends bring Microsoft home.
brianary@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Microsoft can’t seem to figure out sync, ever since Briefcase, if you involve multiple computers you invariably end up with more and more conflicting copies. It’s embarrassing.
Office itself is insanely bloated is a world with Markdown, open data formats, and easy access to scripting. They used some pretty unethical tactics to make OOXML a “standard” to stop governments from switching to an actual standard: ODF-based Libre Office.
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I mean this softly, but I’m going to guess you haven’t used OneDrive recently, and haven’t used it where it’s been set up in a competent manner. The default settings absolutely are not conpetent, espiecally for how messy computers for personal use get.
My workplace uses OneDrive to sync a specific set of user profile folders so we approximate having profiles and files that follow us without everyone needing a personal folder on a network drive that mounts at login.
The only issues we’ve had are profiles auto-downloading too mant of peoples files and eating drives on shared machines (so you just have your meeting room computers wipe all profiles every reboot and schedule reboots nightly), and I’ve had some issues where OneNote hadn’t actually synced the notebook back to the cloud before I closed on one machine and opened on a different machine so I lost some notes.
Beyond that, it’s handled even situations where I have the same file open siniltaneously on multiple machines smoothly. Syncs between login on multiple machines take 3 minutes max, and I can force it faster if I really need by pausing and resuming the sync.
I’m sure there’s situations it’s still not suited for, like editing and syncing large monolithic files (think video files over 1GB a piece). It probably sucks big time on personal machines where you’re going to have a complete mess of every file type imaginable tossed in one big unorganized heap.
But configured correctly, for general business use, it can work very well.
brianary@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I currently use it, and have largely mitigated issues in a similar way.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Here’s why it matters
I’m going to have to put together a script to block any instance of a headline that includes this phrase. It’s so fucking overused.
“Why does knowing where my Word documents are stored matter?” Hmmm… let me fucking think, assholes.
turkalino@lemmy.yachts 1 day ago
- Here’s why it matters
- Here’s why you should care
- Here’s what experts have to say
- X happened, here’s what that means for the future
It’s like they feel the need to remind us what the purpose of an article is
TommySoda@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’d be surprised how many people actually need that. My boss is one of them and I constantly have to explain to him why shit like this is bad for us. We’re currently in the process of upgrading all our PCs to Windows 11 and I’m trying to convince him to let me install Linux on all the computers that don’t meet the hardware requirements. Fortunately we use an older version of Microsoft Office that doesn’t come with all the bullshit, but there will eventually be a day where we will have to “upgrade” that too. And because of this, I’m also trying to convince him to switch to something like LibreOffice.
Uploading all of our shit to OneDrive is not only a bad idea because we have our own secure servers in house, but it’s also a bad idea because we deal with a lot of files that could get us sued if it was leaked online. We don’t even let our servers connect to the internet for that very purpose. And it’s not a matter of if, but when windows starts uploading all of our shit to OneDrive it will be a complete disaster. And I’m sure there are a lot of guys doing IT at various other companies all trying to explain to their boss the same thing I am while they ignore the issue.
Melonpoly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
SLAMMED
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Is this just for home edition? Or other editions as well. I work at a school with education edition, and I have a co-worker who said when I was helping the with their file management problems
me: just save to Desktop for now. We will fix it later. Them: I don’t think I have a desktop.
I can’t imagine how many other offices having to train their staff about all these new features.
sonofearth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Only office and LibreOffice FTW!
the_q@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
If only corporate agendas hadn’t built industries around a single software suite! If only!
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It a default change, not mandatory. Money says business users will never see this fuckery.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Am biz. I see it.
Sovereignty is almost the issue that it needs to be, but our ‘security’ types totally trust MS at their word when they say “it’s only stored in your country and can’t be touched from here. Trust me, bro.”
These are security types who know to ask “how do you know” 5 times, and don’t even ask it once.
mctoasterson@reddthat.com 1 day ago
And they wonder why some of us are still using local installed and firewalled Office 2007.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Office 2003 was the last usable version.
fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Idiots.
ftmpch@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Surely this is a minor problem with an easy solution: choose “Save As…” from the menu, then select a folder on your local drive.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 7 hours ago
My God, THANK YOU! I’ve seen this article in five different places and everyone is losing their minds over this, seemingly completely oblivious to the fact that:
It’s mind boggling how much people switch off their brains whenever they see Microsoft doing literally anything, and the entire conversation devolves into “Microsoft bad”.