Eyes Up’s purpose is to “preserve evidence until it can be used in court.” But it has been swept up in Apple’s attack on ICE-spotting apps.
why is luigi so popular and adored they ask
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https://www.404media.co/apple-banned-an-app-that-simply-archived-videos-of-ice-abuses/
Eyes Up’s purpose is to “preserve evidence until it can be used in court.” But it has been swept up in Apple’s attack on ICE-spotting apps.
why is luigi so popular and adored they ask
And we don’t even know how if he actually did the job!
I know he didn’t do it. we were deep in a duos ping pong tourney at the time that incident occurred.
So if we ever take back this country, we’ve gotta destroy Palantir, Apple, Google, Meta, Disney, Microsoft, Amazon, CVS (working to compile a medical database on all USAmericans)… and every company that backed Trump’s Nazi campaign. Start making a list now. The corporations alone will be a life’s worth of work.
there’s no way the democrats would ever do anything like that, let alone the republicans.
You are correct, but who said it would be the Democrats doing the work?
We’ll never have this county back by relying on the Democrats.
Add Tesla, Starlink & Oracle
oh, yeah, of course Musk’s companies go on there… and I saw a few things about Oracle’s surveillance efforts.
Basically every company over a certain size. They all got that big by unfair conduct or outright abuse, because your market laws are way too lax.
Nationalize all of them, democratic the new platform so the government can’t control it
CVS (working to compile a medical database on all USAmericans)
Can I have a source for that?
nbcnews.com/…/trump-administration-launching-new-…
Not sure if this proves anything, but it is probably the source of the comment.
Absolutely. apnews.com/…/trump-ai-rfk-jr-health-tech-fa73703b… (second paragraph)
More than 60 companies, including major tech companies like Google, Amazon and Apple as well as health care giants like UnitedHealth Group and CVS Health, have agreed to share patient data in the system.
Excuse me? Comcast belongs on that list.
People need to realize. There is no fair access to technology. You either bend the knee or have to create your own marketplace.
I realize I’m not entirely free yet, but I sleep better ever since I changed to a non-Google Android ROM. Also because the path to proper mobile Linux feels shorter now.
Anyone still on Google Android: Look into making the change. It’s worth it.
And if not, at least start getting your apps from F-droid whenever possible.
Yep, switching as many apps as you can to foss apps, and moving to non Gmail based email services will make future switching way easier.
I’d love to make the switch. I was looking into custom roms for my S24U and finally decided I’m okay with tripping Knox, so I’d give it a go… Nope! Samsung has removed the ability to unlock the bootloader in OneUI 8, with no path to downgrade. So I’m stuck with an excellent piece of hardware, running software that collects and sells my data.
Does “play integrity” work on non Google android? I’m rooted and system wide adblocking, but I still use things like streaming apps.
Its why I have linux PC / laptops, and GrapheneOS on my phone (may get a fairphone next time)
Me too, but the lords of Technofeudalism, backed by government, won’t allow that forever. Maybe on PCs, but not phones. No “side loading” what they don’t approve. Banks and co, only allowing their apps on approved OSs. No satnav traffic data unless you use an approved satnav, rendering them useless.
The problem isn’t technological, it’s political. We need decent government protecting citizens and enforcing competition laws. The problem is the population don’t understand what is being done to them, so don’t vote against it.
None of it is new. Liberty vs security, monopoly, etc, aren’t new, but wrapping it in technology blinds most people to it.
I’m sorry to say it, but neither Linux nor the hardware you use it on fit under “create your own”.
Time to smash the looms.
Or start breaking things.
Ohh wow a mega corp who pretend to do care about your privacy is collaborating with the government doing Nazi cosplay
They want to stop us controlling anything.
I’m glad the google play store never censors apps, oh wait. It’s almost as if big corporations and now governments have no citizens best interests in mind, mind blowing.
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini
Why can’t this be a web app that uses web notifications? Why does it even need to be an on-device app? That’s building in a vulnerability that doesn’t need to be there.
Make it a site. Go to the site. Pin the site. Allow notifications from site. Done.
Yes, Apple and Google are in the wrong, but why are we relying on them for this at all? Not everything needs to be a fucking app.
What’s even stopping them from just uploading to archive.org?
Cause tech illiterate people need as much friction removed as possible.
“Which side did you choose when authoritarianism came to your doorstep?”
Looks like Tim Apple has chosen.
Beholden to the AAPL ticker.
Corpos are not your friends. In fact they are usually the enemy.
they are
usuallyalways the enemy
Better though than Framework who donate to bad open source developers. Hail big corporate! /s
(This isn’t directed at you, I’m more frustrated by the people in the Framework controvery threads who somehow thing buying Apple or Dell is a more ethical choice).
Why do you need an app for that that can be blocked from both app stores? Did people forget about self hosted websites?
Yes
Unironically yes, mostly cause most websites on mobile are the most horrid experience and an app for the average audience is just how phones are nowadays
Why are these apps being distributed on app stores
Why are these apps not PWAs with an app store deployment wrapper???
Every Lemming be like “what app do you use” meanwhile I’m like “…app? 👀”
-Sent via WebUI
(I don’t keep stuff logged on my phone, in case a cop grabs it)
“what app do you use”
“Uhhhhh Firefox?”
The same reason they don’t sell people a live chicken in the grocery store. The general public wouldn’t know what to do with it.
Why are these apps not PWAs with an app store deployment wrapper???
Web wrapped websites are not allowed on either app store btw.
We really need a Linux phone… It’s like the future of democracy depends on it…
Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group. Right now tens of millions of people there are straight-up worshipping an obvious fascist as god-king and a sizeable portion of the other chunk is still desperately clinging to the idea of being “moderate”.
A linux phone would be nice but it’s not going to save the world if the people are still dumb and cowardly.
Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group.
Yeah, it’s fucked.
The free western world really need to fast track the divide from US controlled tech.
It’s too late. Even without the influence of tech assholes, the western world has gone full fascist and it’s just not coming back to anything safe without a fuckton of Luigi’s.
My camera can record videos of ICE abuse. Are they gonna ban that?
I can’t think of a reason why, with client side scanning, they couldn’t in the near future implement a filter similar to this. Pictures and videos deemed “problematic” could magically disappear. And of course, your iPhone will send a helpful report to the local Gestapo branch. Eventually, “Sorry, network permission is required to run the camera app. You may not capture images of law enforcement activities per executive law. The camera will now be disabled until you comply.”
The thing is - the Internet itself is a fascist technology. Fascists, and especially German Nazis, used electric terms and analogies to refer to their politics. Mostly referring to unification of various parts into one network, except in their case the information medium really used was radio.
But the basic idea was that any kind of fascism thrives as means of mass politics. Anything unique, specific, individual is in conflict with that. But the Internet is the tool to slowly grind through that conflict, because it gradually reinforces one voice, one way and one meaning.
It’s a very intelligent trap and one hard to believe in, but our world today is so much more fascist than even in dictatorships 30 years ago, that I think I’m right.
Also consider that the very shock of something so modern and new and comfortable being used as a channel of control is, too, what Nazis did.
And when you want to argue that in the Internet one can post their own opinions and create their own spaces and do their own things, think again. These abilities are inherent to reality as well. Make a thought experiment - could you whisper with your friends at a Nazi meeting in the back rows? Could you not even attend? Could you have private conversations on everything you’d want elsewhere? Yes, these all are true. But the only voices to be heard by everyone and reinforced by that system and order were those from the tribune, and millions of voices would answer them in one and the same way, and millions of hands would raise in salute.
And LLMs and such new tools are going to make this worse, because they are tools of situational speech accord with what you expect, leveled by the common average, just like fascism is an ideology of situational emotional accord with what you feel, leveled by the common average. Fascism is the extreme ideology rejecting logic and semantics, and the Internet on every level has been built to reject logic and semantics as a medium of communication of living people. And LLMs are an even more direct tool to do well only that, all the rest is attempts to sell it, but this is its main trait.
And let’s recall again how that stopped - by spending all its resources and being defeated in a war.
A truly visionary and futuristic regime, honestly. It’s funny how Nazis were so futuristic despite being blood and soil barbarians, and Stalin’s regime was really reactionary despite dreaming of space travel, except Stalin’s regime’s official philosophy was dialectic materialism which is the only thing convenient to describe this contradiction.
This… Is a very possible future
Would the fact that my camera isn’t integrated into a smartphone be reason why not?
They actually do try the years ago. The idea was a signal could be sent to deactivate cameras and microphones on all phones in a vicinity. It was being pitched as a way to stop people from recording a live events like concerts but there was enormous outcry over the potential for abuse so it was dropped.
Technically it’s in place and used for a lot of assistant applications, they just didn’t flip the $fascist bool yet.
That’s what AI is for
States and cities try to criminalize recording police all the time.
I banned Apple from my life a long time ago.
Because corporations suck up to fashists if they are in power. That’s all.
Stuff like this is why Google wants to restrict sideloading to “verified developers” only.
Even if an app like this isn’t distributed through Google Play, they could disable the developer’s account for any vague “abuse” reason.
I get it. Pomme bad. Why does this even need to be an “app”? Is it just a wrapper for a website?
No shit, Big Tech is going to kowtow to whoever is in charge.
Remove Apple's restrictions from the equation and just make it a PWA. This isn't the sort of app that needs to run natively on your device, anyway.
Thus solidifying my scorched earth policy with apple.
I don’t want your naziPhone.
We need to spread the word of lemmy reddit mods are banning everything
I’m growing very annoyed with Apple lately. Giving Trump a solid gold brick was bad enough. I knew it would get worse with all those Trump dinners Tim Cook has been attending.
Between Apple Google AWS and Microsoft the amount of control by US tech is terrifying.
This year I’ve started divesting but politically I think I need to accelerate.
I’ve been a user of the Mac for 20 years, this year I moved to a Linux desktop. Now I need to look into Linux phone and laptops soon.
Apple has consistently been a completely anti-consumer just basically evil corporation for 30+ years. Everyone knows it, there are just the people who care and who will never be smart enough to care.
Not surprised at all.
18 U.S.C. § 1519 – „Destruction, Alteration, or Concealment of Evidence“ ?
I made a tool to help with this. It sends encrypted Signal alerts when ICE shows up in your area based on community reports. Honestly been struggling to get the word out because everyone thinks it’s spam, but it’s legit and people are using it. iceheadsup.com Please check it out or share with someone it could help.
Very light on the details here. How did the app do this? What was the functionality of the actual app?
Also lol at this:
Mark asked 404 Media to only use his first name to protect him from retaliation.
He released an app on the apple store, they know who he is.
“That makes even, no?”
– Tsar Vlad.
athairmor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.
www.apple.com/feedback/
kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
OR stop buying ANY of their products
athairmor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well, both, really.
Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
If you are still using an apple phone in times like these then you are not taking your life serious enough. Big techs power will absolutely fuck things up in the coming purge and people are totally unprepared for it.
F_State@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
or both
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, but also make it clear why you are leaving. And as dirty as it feels, don’t tell them their actions are irredeemable and they’ve lost you for life.
If you tell them you’ll never come back no matter what, then they no longer have to care about your opinion. You’re essentially telling them that they should start catering more-heavily to the fascists now that the only potential customers don’t mind them bending the knee.
artyom@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
How much “feedback” do you think it will take to make them contradict the vindictive sitting President? Apple doesn’t care about what you think about this because it’s not for you.
You know what you can do? Stop giving them money. Write them an email from your iCloud account, then delete said account. Cancel any subscriptions (this seemed to be effective against Disney).
The fed gov holds too much power. You have to show them that Americans, collectively, have more power to affect their bottom line than the Pres, and (most importantly) are willing to exercise it.
MotoAsh@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Apple fans are not that type of person, though. They’re better than everyone else, and so is their owning entity! They can do no wrong, this app was obviously guilty of doxxing cops …
obinice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’re based in the USA, they have to work with the government or they’ll be targeted/taken over/shut down, surely?
They could try to escape the USA and move all their operations to Europe, but I think they’re just going to stick where they are and do whatever the fascists want them to do. So long as they’re getting paid why should they care?
aquovie@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
They had no problem standing up to the FBI when they knew the Constitution still worked. It’s not bravery when it doesn’t cost you anything and there’s nothing to be afraid of. But now things are different and regular every day people don’t want to say it out. The implications make them uncomfortable.
Apple’s market share outside of the US is pretty pitiful. Even with their piles of money, it would hurt.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It would be better for the economy to commit suicide than to comply, and we as consumers have the power to make them if only we organizd
GaryGhost@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A strongly worded letter