Eyes Up’s purpose is to “preserve evidence until it can be used in court.” But it has been swept up in Apple’s attack on ICE-spotting apps.
Not surprised at all.
Apple Banned an App That Simply Archived Videos of ICE Abuses
Submitted 5 months ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.404media.co/apple-banned-an-app-that-simply-archived-videos-of-ice-abuses/
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roserose56@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Stuff like this is why Google wants to restrict sideloading to “verified developers” only.
Even if an app like this isn’t distributed through Google Play, they could disable the developer’s account for any vague “abuse” reason.muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Why can’t this be a web app that uses web notifications? Why does it even need to be an on-device app? That’s building in a vulnerability that doesn’t need to be there.
Make it a site. Go to the site. Pin the site. Allow notifications from site. Done.
Yes, Apple and Google are in the wrong, but why are we relying on them for this at all? Not everything needs to be a fucking app.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What’s even stopping them from just uploading to archive.org?
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Cause tech illiterate people need as much friction removed as possible.
eigenraum@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
18 U.S.C. § 1519 – „Destruction, Alteration, or Concealment of Evidence“ ?
kevin2107@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We need to spread the word of lemmy reddit mods are banning everything
umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
[deleted]Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They want to stop us controlling anything.
courval@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We really need a Linux phone… It’s like the future of democracy depends on it…
Soup@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group. Right now tens of millions of people there are straight-up worshipping an obvious fascist as god-king and a sizeable portion of the other chunk is still desperately clinging to the idea of being “moderate”.
A linux phone would be nice but it’s not going to save the world if the people are still dumb and cowardly.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group.
Yeah, it’s fucked.
Griffus@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
The free western world really need to fast track the divide from US controlled tech.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
It’s too late. Even without the influence of tech assholes, the western world has gone full fascist and it’s just not coming back to anything safe without a fuckton of Luigi’s.
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
“Which side did you choose when authoritarianism came to your doorstep?”
Looks like Tim Apple has chosen.
nucleative@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Beholden to the AAPL ticker.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Because corporations suck up to fashists if they are in power. That’s all.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Corpos are not your friends. In fact they are usually the enemy.
festus@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Better though than Framework who donate to bad open source developers. Hail big corporate! /s
(This isn’t directed at you, I’m more frustrated by the people in the Framework controvery threads who somehow thing buying Apple or Dell is a more ethical choice).
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
they are
usuallyalways the enemy
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 months ago
Very light on the details here. How did the app do this? What was the functionality of the actual app?
Also lol at this:
Mark asked 404 Media to only use his first name to protect him from retaliation.
He released an app on the apple store, they know who he is.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Well, LE tracking apps should just be allowed, and we should boycott them for not doing so
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 months ago
Not when their sole purpose is to assist in breaking the law.
vogo13@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I’m glad the google play store never censors apps, oh wait. It’s almost as if big corporations and now governments have no citizens best interests in mind, mind blowing.
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini
CannedYeet@lemmy.world 5 months ago
My camera can record videos of ICE abuse. Are they gonna ban that?
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
They actually do try the years ago. The idea was a signal could be sent to deactivate cameras and microphones on all phones in a vicinity. It was being pitched as a way to stop people from recording a live events like concerts but there was enormous outcry over the potential for abuse so it was dropped.
Dionysus@leminal.space 5 months ago
Technically it’s in place and used for a lot of assistant applications, they just didn’t flip the
$fascistbool yet.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 months ago
States and cities try to criminalize recording police all the time.
MisterD@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
That’s what AI is for
extremeboredom@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I can’t think of a reason why, with client side scanning, they couldn’t in the near future implement a filter similar to this. Pictures and videos deemed “problematic” could magically disappear. And of course, your iPhone will send a helpful report to the local Gestapo branch. Eventually, “Sorry, network permission is required to run the camera app. You may not capture images of law enforcement activities per executive law. The camera will now be disabled until you comply.”
bold_atlas@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Would the fact that my camera isn’t integrated into a smartphone be reason why not?
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
The thing is - the Internet itself is a fascist technology. Fascists, and especially German Nazis, used electric terms and analogies to refer to their politics. Mostly referring to unification of various parts into one network, except in their case the information medium really used was radio.
But the basic idea was that any kind of fascism thrives as means of mass politics. Anything unique, specific, individual is in conflict with that. But the Internet is the tool to slowly grind through that conflict, because it gradually reinforces one voice, one way and one meaning.
It’s a very intelligent trap and one hard to believe in, but our world today is so much more fascist than even in dictatorships 30 years ago, that I think I’m right.
Also consider that the very shock of something so modern and new and comfortable being used as a channel of control is, too, what Nazis did.
And when you want to argue that in the Internet one can post their own opinions and create their own spaces and do their own things, think again. These abilities are inherent to reality as well. Make a thought experiment - could you whisper with your friends at a Nazi meeting in the back rows? Could you not even attend? Could you have private conversations on everything you’d want elsewhere? Yes, these all are true. But the only voices to be heard by everyone and reinforced by that system and order were those from the tribune, and millions of voices would answer them in one and the same way, and millions of hands would raise in salute.
And LLMs and such new tools are going to make this worse, because they are tools of situational speech accord with what you expect, leveled by the common average, just like fascism is an ideology of situational emotional accord with what you feel, leveled by the common average. Fascism is the extreme ideology rejecting logic and semantics, and the Internet on every level has been built to reject logic and semantics as a medium of communication of living people. And LLMs are an even more direct tool to do well only that, all the rest is attempts to sell it, but this is its main trait.
And let’s recall again how that stopped - by spending all its resources and being defeated in a war.
A truly visionary and futuristic regime, honestly. It’s funny how Nazis were so futuristic despite being blood and soil barbarians, and Stalin’s regime was really reactionary despite dreaming of space travel, except Stalin’s regime’s official philosophy was dialectic materialism which is the only thing convenient to describe this contradiction.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This… Is a very possible future
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
I banned Apple from my life a long time ago.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Never owned one of their products, not even once. When I realized the iPod didn’t support USB file transfer and they forced you to use iTunes, I knew that they were a bad company and I vowed to never use their products.
bike_and_cargo@feddit.org 5 months ago
Other big companies like Google are not better
TeddE@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Working on it …
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
“That makes even, no?”
– Tsar Vlad.
danhab99@programming.dev 5 months ago
Why are these apps being distributed on app stores
Why are these apps not PWAs with an app store deployment wrapper???
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 months ago
Why are these apps not PWAs with an app store deployment wrapper???
Web wrapped websites are not allowed on either app store btw.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Every Lemming be like “what app do you use” meanwhile I’m like “…app? 👀”
-Sent via WebUI
(I don’t keep stuff logged on my phone, in case a cop grabs it)
Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
“what app do you use”
“Uhhhhh Firefox?”
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 5 months ago
People need to realize. There is no fair access to technology. You either bend the knee or have to create your own marketplace.
BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Its why I have linux PC / laptops, and GrapheneOS on my phone (may get a fairphone next time)
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
I’m sorry to say it, but neither Linux nor the hardware you use it on fit under “create your own”.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Me too, but the lords of Technofeudalism, backed by government, won’t allow that forever. Maybe on PCs, but not phones. No “side loading” what they don’t approve. Banks and co, only allowing their apps on approved OSs. No satnav traffic data unless you use an approved satnav, rendering them useless.
The problem isn’t technological, it’s political. We need decent government protecting citizens and enforcing competition laws. The problem is the population don’t understand what is being done to them, so don’t vote against it.
None of it is new. Liberty vs security, monopoly, etc, aren’t new, but wrapping it in technology blinds most people to it.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Or start breaking things.
ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Time to smash the looms.
cabbage@piefed.social 5 months ago
I realize I’m not entirely free yet, but I sleep better ever since I changed to a non-Google Android ROM. Also because the path to proper mobile Linux feels shorter now.
Anyone still on Google Android: Look into making the change. It’s worth it.
And if not, at least start getting your apps from F-droid whenever possible.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Yep, switching as many apps as you can to foss apps, and moving to non Gmail based email services will make future switching way easier.
michaelalf@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’d love to make the switch. I was looking into custom roms for my S24U and finally decided I’m okay with tripping Knox, so I’d give it a go… Nope! Samsung has removed the ability to unlock the bootloader in OneUI 8, with no path to downgrade. So I’m stuck with an excellent piece of hardware, running software that collects and sells my data.
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Does “play integrity” work on non Google android? I’m rooted and system wide adblocking, but I still use things like streaming apps.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 5 months ago
Why do you need an app for that that can be blocked from both app stores? Did people forget about self hosted websites?
LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Yes
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Unironically yes, mostly cause most websites on mobile are the most horrid experience and an app for the average audience is just how phones are nowadays
DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Apple has consistently been a completely anti-consumer just basically evil corporation for 30+ years. Everyone knows it, there are just the people who care and who will never be smart enough to care.
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
So if we ever take back this country, we’ve gotta destroy Palantir, Apple, Google, Meta, Disney, Microsoft, Amazon, CVS (working to compile a medical database on all USAmericans)… and every company that backed Trump’s Nazi campaign. Start making a list now. The corporations alone will be a life’s worth of work.
archchan@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
CVS (working to compile a medical database on all USAmericans)
Can I have a source for that?
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Absolutely. apnews.com/…/trump-ai-rfk-jr-health-tech-fa73703b… (second paragraph)
More than 60 companies, including major tech companies like Google, Amazon and Apple as well as health care giants like UnitedHealth Group and CVS Health, have agreed to share patient data in the system.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 months ago
nbcnews.com/…/trump-administration-launching-new-…
Not sure if this proves anything, but it is probably the source of the comment.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Nationalize all of them, democratic the new platform so the government can’t control it
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Excuse me? Comcast belongs on that list.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Basically every company over a certain size. They all got that big by unfair conduct or outright abuse, because your market laws are way too lax.
trajekolus@piefed.social 5 months ago
Add Tesla, Starlink & Oracle
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
oh, yeah, of course Musk’s companies go on there… and I saw a few things about Oracle’s surveillance efforts.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 5 months ago
there’s no way the democrats would ever do anything like that, let alone the republicans.
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 months ago
We’ll never have this county back by relying on the Democrats.
Telorand@reddthat.com 5 months ago
You are correct, but who said it would be the Democrats doing the work?
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
why is luigi so popular and adored they ask
socialsecurity@piefed.social 5 months ago
And we don’t even know how if he actually did the job!
modular950@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I know he didn’t do it. we were deep in a duos ping pong tourney at the time that incident occurred.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I’m growing very annoyed with Apple lately. Giving Trump a solid gold brick was bad enough. I knew it would get worse with all those Trump dinners Tim Cook has been attending.
Between Apple Google AWS and Microsoft the amount of control by US tech is terrifying.
This year I’ve started divesting but politically I think I need to accelerate.
I’ve been a user of the Mac for 20 years, this year I moved to a Linux desktop. Now I need to look into Linux phone and laptops soon.
joker125@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’m here with you
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I get it. Pomme bad. Why does this even need to be an “app”? Is it just a wrapper for a website?
Chozo@fedia.io 5 months ago
No shit, Big Tech is going to kowtow to whoever is in charge.
Remove Apple's restrictions from the equation and just make it a PWA. This isn't the sort of app that needs to run natively on your device, anyway.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Thus solidifying my scorched earth policy with apple.
I don’t want your naziPhone.
socialsecurity@piefed.social 5 months ago
Ohh wow a mega corp who pretend to do care about your privacy is collaborating with the government doing Nazi cosplay
athairmor@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.
db2@lemmy.world 5 months ago
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