Disgusting $hit. Hopefully this will drive more people to Linux.
Microsoft is testing full-screen Microsoft 365 ads in Windows 11 for expired subscriptions
Submitted 6 months ago by ardi60@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
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nev@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
This will drive more people to Linux. The forced migration to Win11 is already doing wonders with Linux adoption.
alehel@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Are there any actual statistics showing this ongoing migration, or are we just assuming?
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Midvikudagur@lemmy.world 6 months ago
handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Why do they need to test it? M$ has been doing this on the Xbox platform for over a year now.
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This shit is making me more & more glad I switched back to Linux. I’m even thinking of actually learning to code to continue its support. These businesses are just fully mask off at this point.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Help LibreOffice developers replace Microsoft 365: www.libreoffice.org/donate/
Liz@midwest.social 6 months ago
I know that coding time is much more expensive than I can afford, but if I had the money I would clean up and fully-feature their macro system.
RalphWolf@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Subscriptions? Who pays a subscription for Windows?
BlackAura@lemmy.world 6 months ago
For Microsoft 365 / Office 365.
minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Massgrave PS script solves this. Yes for 365 too.
public_image_ltd@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The sole reason for me owning a windows pc is that I use vMix which requires it as well a a nvidia graphics card. What I did is clean bloatware with Win11Debloat. Up to now nobody has been able to tell me how to effectively run vMix on Linux.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
The answer to this is usually to use an alternative. Reading the description and searching around a bit, isn’t this essentially what OBS Studio does?
public_image_ltd@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Essentially yes. I am very experienced with OBS Studio and now I am adding vMix to my portfolio because it’s capable things OBS cannot do. vMix is programmed to do the videoprocessing directly on the GPU while the CPU is only handling audio and the UI. Unfortunately this works only on Windows systems.
zephiriz@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
At this point if Microsoft released windows 12 for like 200$ with out any of the adware spying shit I probably would buy it. Hell make it 500$. They would probably make more than what they do selling your data.
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Linux is free
lemmyknow@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I swear, if Microoft pulls a few more of these no-good shenanigans, I might start pondering on considering the possibility of perhąps trying out Linux
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
With Linux Mint it’s so incredibly easy. Believe me.
Before migrating my desktop over (to arch btw) exactly a year ago I did a trial by fire during our end-of-summer get-away and installed Mint on a spare laptop with the aim of working one day remotely and also finishing a group project during a summer course which I had to do leading my team on teams (because lol universities).
The only thing that it failed on was getting the laptop’s built in speaker audio working, which I’ve heard can happen with certain models. I just used a headset instead.
Oddly enough, I have three other similar laptops, running OpenSUSE and Fedora on them, and the audio works on them flawlessly.You should try a live USB and/or a spare laptop to trial whatever distro people recommend. Distro hopping is child’s play, once you figure out how to disable secure boot.
lemmyknow@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Eh, I can’t really leave Windows
Little8Lost@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Try out librewolf or softmaker (there is somewhere a free version) and other alternatives of programs that you need that at best are foss and at worst also run on linux.
That way you get a smoother learning curvelemmyknow@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I already use LibreWolf. Not sure what softmaker is, though.
I am not allowed to leave Windows, though
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 6 months ago
They sent me a survey. I told them they’re driving me to Linux and libre office.
LouNeko@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What they heard was:
“I’m not considering giving any money to your competitors.”
So they were probably happy.
Binturong@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I swear, Microsoft YEARNS to fail. Dunno who is running the show over there but they’re doing a great job of being terrible for their brand.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 months ago
they’re losing so much money on AI/datacenters, they are just flailing at this point.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 6 months ago
You might want to check their financial reports buddy lol. Actually I know you won’t want to, because they’ll make you upset. You literally could not be more wrong if you tried.
utopiah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Meanwhile MSFT (the stock) goes up up up
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 6 months ago
Complete clickbait article headline: the title should have been “for subscriptions where the payment method for the renewal failed”, not just for “expired subscriptions”. It’s to notify people who didn’t mean for their subscription to lapse that their payment method was refused.
Doesn’t make as “good” of a story then though, does it?
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They are seriously making the case for Linux with everything they do
GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Now that GeForce Now can play most anti-cheat on cloud gaming I see no reason ever to have a Windows machine. Mint btw.
iLStrix@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Not viable for competitive games or (for me personally) any games at all. Too much input lag and often too blurry graphics.
k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the anti-cheat stuff generally for competitive games? If that’s the case, GeForce Now would make it too laggy to play comfortably, no?
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Windows 10 had already done a great job of that, but Windows 11 has really amped it up. I only have a single Windows machine in the house at this point for specific corporate stuff I need for work.
kadup@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Of course they are. Coincidentally, newer devices being bought in 2025 are increasingly shipping with fully locked UEFI that prevents you from installing anything but Windows.
TedKaczynski@lemmy.world 6 months ago
increasingly shipping with fully locked UEFI that prevents you from installing anything but Windows.
This is false information.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I have never seen this nor can I find any examples of this online. Any examples?
dermanus@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I tried to do a dual boot on my bf’s new laptop, he was li-curious, it ended up being such a hassle he just switched entirely. He prefers the Mac like interface on Wayland.
Threeme2189@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Wayland isn’t the desktop environment (window compositor). That’s probably Gnome, as it’s very mac like.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I thought that was illegal.
azur@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do you happen to know any specific hardware that does so? I haven’t heard of that and I’m genuinely curious.
knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Advertising has no place in an operating system. Full stop.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Windows disagrees.
kadup@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Advertising has no place period.
One of the single greatest tragedies of modern life is that we accepted ads invading our personal and public spaces. Going outside for a walk and having to see a large outdoor, literally an advert on the sky, should be a crime against humanity.
ksigley@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Hear, hear. If you occupy a public space, you have to behave in a manner that everyone can accept. I, for one, do not want to go to a beach to watch a sunset and have a boat with a cartoonishly large LCD display line up on the horizon flashing advertisements.
ozymandias117@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I moved somewhere where signs over a certain height (maybe 8 feet?) are illegal.
It’s glorious
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Especially one you have to PAY for
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 6 months ago
Just an fyi - Windows 11 is free for all that most users need. You don’t need to activate Windows to use it unless you want to use a few of the more advanced features. It never locks you out or anything, you just can’t change your desktop wallpaper.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m in a constant battle to keep it removed off our office machines. You can’t remove it completely since its cached and installed with every user login. In order to get rid of it we would have to pay for the enterprise version. Just another rip off from macroshit.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
And that’s why, sir, Massgrave exists.
rarsamx@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
“Microsoft testing new ways to lose customers”.
It’s well known that piracy was what made Word (.DOC) and Excel (.XLS) the de facto standard.
If the kids at home can’t use windows, they’ll find something different. And when enough of them find if, when they become decision makers they’ll stay away from Windows.
Imagine how different the landscape would be had MS cracked down on Piracy for their flagship programs.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 6 months ago
If the kids at home can’t use windows
Wait why can’t they use windows?
rarsamx@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Let me repeat, a big part of the success of windows is due to piracy. In developing countries, poor people rely on it. Eventually they may become educated and well, they know how to use windows.
If windows/office becomes annoying with the ads then people will look for alternatives.
Soup@lemmy.world 6 months ago
iMacs in schools weren’t for nothing, and neither are the weirdly good deals on Apple products for students and teachers. At a time when people are learning about these programs and using the machines pretty aggressively the good product company comes along and gives them affordable-ish equipment with a nice stable OS.
Tim Cook Apple being kinda underwhelming and being way more expensive than Steve Jobs Apple is not helping their image but they still have decent deals and are able to ride said image for a very long time thanks largely to Jobs understanding what you’re talking about.
Back to Microsoft, they don’t seem to understand that the general consensus on them has mostly always been that Windows is cheap and not amazing but certain programs run on only it. Now they want to make it cost a tonne of money/have ads? Jobs’ Apple products where expensive but they were high quality. Microsoft just can’t pull the same shit with their dogshit legacy-coded 30 year old hack-job OS and consistently mediocre-to-bad products. And they have to do it while competing with Linux amongst the very people who were doing most of the loud fan-boying for their shit for so long!
Agent641@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Will they run in WINE?
Mwa@thelemmy.club 6 months ago
dont think so
palordrolap@fedia.io 6 months ago
Tricky. Microsoft currently use two different executable formats and only one of them is compatible with WINE. That still doesn't mean that a compatible one will work properly though.
On the other hand, people who make ads want their ads to be literally everywhere, so they might make it Windows 3.11 compatible with all library functions baked in just to be safe. WINE would almost certainly run that.
Valmond@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I have a windows game box, it nags me to backup my photos when I visualise 1 (one) image.
What a shit OS it has become lol.
m33@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
bhamlin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Malware for Linux exists, and has for a long time. It’s just not as omnipresent as windows malware, even adjusting for market share.
Also, often has different goals to windows malware
m33@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Yes they were mostly xmr miners, or reverse shell (pretty much like all those windows RAT)
muffedtrims@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Laughs in Linux
m33@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I hope it last, web enshitification may bring us back to the 2000s where that one site requires internet explorer, this one won’t allow DRM content on non windows platforms…
It’s just around the corner.
cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Since I made the switch these kinds of news are hilarious! Yes, make Win 11 into hell! Your customers are your shareholders, users are too be exploited! How long can it last? Who cares, only the next quarter counts!
ook@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Lmao. Genius, hope whoever suggested this got a raise. Can imagine the meeting where it has been decided. "Hey, have we thought about fullscreen ads for something we want to push on people?” "Genius idea, Maxwell! Go home to your wife and kids and tell them a big fat bonus is coming to their smart father!”
TachyonTele@piefed.social 6 months ago
"In fact, go to my home and fuck my wife. Full screen ad? Brilliant!"
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do it! At this point Linux can do anything windows can do, I want them to fuck it up as much as possible, Fuck Microsoft !
stoy@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
At this point Linux can do anything windows can do
IT guy here, this is just not true at all.
So far I have never seen anything on Linux being able to replace functions like GPOs.
johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 6 months ago
Actually, i’m learning to Go to do just that. GPO’s are basicly just configuration management. And there’s Ansible, Chef, Puppet. These all work on Linux.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 6 months ago
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
FreeIPA + any mechanism to deploy configuration files
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Irrelevant, all the ads will be disabled in iot / enterprise anyway and they can afford to Make their own software or at least higher Simone to the only reason they don’t have full page ads btw give them just enough to keep them wanting more.
reddig33@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Also Microsoft: “Why aren’t people upgrading to Windows 11?”
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
From Fedora 42? Sounds like a downgrade.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
This is so funny. My wife purchased a Yealink headset for work, and her laptop runs W11. When we got the headset I tried it on my Fedora 42 laptop and had a meeting for about 30 minutes, only because I wanted to see if it would run on Linux. Of course, nor only did it work, it was plug & play, and was spectacular in sound quality and mic noise cancelation.
So I set it up on her W laptop, and here comes the “download this”, “install drivers” and “install apps” bullshit that I had all but forgotten about since I made the leap to Linux over 8 years ago. All this only to have it regularly disconnect mid-meetings (spoiler, she ended up using the integrated speakers and mic the rest of the week).
Windows is made to spy, intrude and annoy users. Even the devices ‘made for Windows’ work way better and easier on Linux, and with way less friction.
My kids are now 12 and 10 and have always used Linux exclusively. Only now they are being exposed to Windows at school, and they both hate it so much that they get home and have chosen to do some distro hopping over the weekends 🤣🤣
bigchungus@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
They really need to name the next version "Windows 76". That should have the people throwing money at them.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
“Nobody wants to Windows anymore!”
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 6 months ago
(laughs in Debian)
atomicpoet@piefed.social 6 months ago
So glad I just switched to Linux.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They have this in Windows 10…to advertise Windows 11.
loaf@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Thank goodness I have zero use for any of their products.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 6 months ago
Laughs in libreoffice.