HP printer USB port covered with warning sticker in hopes you won't use it | Boing Boing

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HP wants you to print things through its cloud service, wherein you pay a subscription fee for ink and your usage is routed through its servers. To encourage you to do this, it covers the USB port …

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kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
EU needs to get their shit together and clamp down on this, absolute abomination of a company

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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’m sure they’ll get to it. Trouble is there’s so many bullshit moves that companies engage in and it takes time to ban all of them.
  
  I think the EU should ban apple devices. They claim to be pro privacy but what they really are is pro not giving everyone else your data but keeping it themselves, that’s not privacy, that’s false advertising.
  
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  - Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That bothers me less though.
    
    Apple “Ok yeah we’re gonna keep your data and mine it. But just us” is a whole lot better than “Lol, your shits for sale” which is Google.
    
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Sir_Kevin@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Like 15 years ago I bought the cheapest Brother laser printer. It’s still going strong. The ink never dries out or fucks up. I’ve never felt like the company was trying to rape my asshole. Why anyone still plays the ink jet game I do not fuckin know. I’ve boycotted HP decades ago and to this day I continue to see reasons to never change that decision.

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- ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  We got a Brother laser as well. Only print a few times a year, and the toner is always good to go when it does get switched on. Love it!
  
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- d3Xt3r@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  Why anyone still plays the ink jet game I do not fuckin know.
  
  Space. At least for me, space is the reason. I’m flatting at the moment and can only keep the printer in my room, and it’s already quite cramped with all my gear here. If I could get a compact color laser MFD within the same dimensions as my current Brother inkjet, I’d switch in a heartbeart. Most of the compact laser printers I’ve seen are either monochrome, or don’t include form-feed scanning, or have some or the other shortcomings.
  
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  - crashoverride@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Initial cost as well. If you only print very small amount, you’re not going to spend couple hundred bucks on the laser printer and then 100 or so bucks on a cartridge for it if you’re not going to print often
    
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  - AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    My Canon ink jet has done well for years on cheap third party ink. It does color and even decent photo, and created many excellent school presentations for my kids. However it’s likely my last printer.
    
    I don’t even know the last time I printed something, it’s always been for the kids’ schools and now they’re old enough to have no more of those
    
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- Irlut_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Ink and dye printers still rule the photo print space. Laser printers simply don’t have sufficient image quality.
  
  Other than that I completely agree that laser printing is the way to go.
  
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  - RobotToaster@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I went with a laser and small dye sub printer. If you only need occasional 6x4 photos it’s probably the best option.
    
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  - phareous@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    This is true but you can always order photos online from Shutterfly, etc. or go to local drug store
    
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nbailey@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The original mastodon post that kicked off this controversy: haunted.computer/@netspooky/110832978569741892

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- otter@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  the original mastodon post
  
  Unrelated to this post:
  
  IMO it’s stuff like this, original content that shows up on Mastodon/Lemmy/Kbin first, that will get people to switch over.
  
  Slow organic growth is nice. Keep making good quality content and people will shift over
  
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housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
JFC! HP sucks. Just buy a Brother laser printer used and never worry about it because it’s bulletproof and a workhorse.

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- ApplePie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  And will work OOTB on Linux with CUPS. Easiest process ever.
  
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  - jrubal1462@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I don't know what CUPS is, but I had 3 major reservations about switching my barely functional computer to Linux:
    
    Ive never worked in Linux before
    
    My dive computer only uploads to proprietary software using a proprietary cable.
    
    My Brother laser printer was working SO well wirelessly. It's the first time I've ever not hated my printer
    
    Turns out some amazing people made open source dive logging software so I can still download my dives.
    
    And for printing, I meant to get around to setting it up, then one day I forgot and accidentally printed something and it just worked. I was so shocked that for a bit I assumed that reformatting the hard drive and changing operating systems must've somehow preserved my printer settings.
    
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  - housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Exactamundo!
    
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- Yearly1845@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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  - scarilog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    If you print more than twice a decade, you can get that down to about 2 cents a page with a brother laser printer and third party cartridges.
    
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  - housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I bought the printer when I was living in a place where the nearest library was 10 miles away and I only had access to a bus. I couldn’t afford a car.
    
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Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
A gentle reminder to those coming in to complain about their prior printers: In some areas, libraries have a computer area where you can print out a reasonable number of pages. It’s not totally convenient, but generally a far better option than maintaining your own cartridge-muncher.

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- Not_Reddit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Hurray for public libraries!
  
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- Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I don’t have a printer at home, and I’ve been just fine. Nowadays you don’t even need to print tickets, so who cares about a printer any more. You get them in your email, and all you need to do is show the QR code off your phone when you show up at the event, enter the theater, board the plane or whatever.
  
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  - Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I have less experience with shows (never had an issue but also don’t go to a lot) but in terms of flights: it is still very worth having a printed ticket. Because maybe one in ten times the scanners will have an issue due to shitty outdated scanners coupled with gunk on phone screens.
    
    But also? Don’t print your plane tickets at home. Just spend 2 minutes with the kiosk while you take off your belt and whatever else you have to do and print out the slip of paper before you go to screening.
    
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  - Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’m the same way, which then puts me in a tizzy when I actually do need a printer: For instance, needing to print a notice to other apartment residents near me (eg, “Do not move this item, it is a trap for rodents!”), or needing to print shipping labels to send in an item for return/repair.
    
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Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Kinda baffling that anyone’s still buying HP - isn’t it common knowledge that they’re one of the worst printer brands?

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- alphapuggle@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Used to sell printers. It’s the old people 100%
  
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- nerdschleife@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  They’re also the cheapest among well-known brands, so the average person buys these
  
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- Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  HP has decent enterprise models. So office drones will have a positive image of HP. Also old people who have been out of touch with the market for 20 years or so.
  
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MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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- mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Remember it’s not cloud storage it’s just somebody else’s computer.
  
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TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I work at a retirement place doing tech. Have had 3 hp printers shit the bed exclusively because of software in the 6 months I’ve been there. Hp smart is so bad.

Such a shitty company. As most of these people are former professionals they get an hp because they used it at work then get talked into the subscription ink because they aren’t 21st century tech savvy.

One printer stopped printing because they did not have the subscription ink. They placed a normal ink cartridge in with a subscription one and the software would not allow printing because it recognized non subscription ink. Disgusting.

So many companies want to enter this subscription hellscape.

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gogosempai@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Never buying HP printers again, not after I got a Brother one last year. It works OOTB even with linux and there’s no such lockdown bullshit.

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- Techmaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  You would never know it from the brand name, but Brother is a Japanese company, and the Japanese are known for making elegant, well made, and easy to use stuff. Konica Minolta is also Japanese and makes pretty good stuff, but for a basic printer I prefer Brother. And don’t bother with inkjet, get a Brother all in one laser printer, and you’ll have a very reliable machine that isn’t expensive to operate. The ink won’t dry up if you don’t use it, and the drivers aren’t constantly trying to sell you anything.
  
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  - ToniCipriani@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Canon is Japanese too, can’t say the same about their fairly recent practices…
    
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Im28xwa@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Wtf is going on with printers market

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- Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  The market for people who NEED printers is shrinking. Last concert I went to I had the QR code ticket in my phone, I havent printed map directions in at least 15 years and I literally cannot remember the last item I needed to print at home.
  
  But they also cant say “Oh well, we had a good 30 year run with home printers” they have to keep making more than last year, so they have to get increasingly predatory.
  
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- Heavybell@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  We let game publishers and adobe get away with charging infinite money for faux services so now everyone else wants to do the same.
  
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ArugulaZ@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! Removing this sticker will reveal a consumer-friendly communications port that will deprive HP of even more money than it's already milking you for with overpriced ink!

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- phareous@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’m kind of surprised they just didn’t remove the usb port entirely
  
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  - aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Design revisions are expensive
    
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Veedem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I have been contemplating abandoning my HP (with instant ink subscription) for an Epson Ecotank. Stuff like this isn’t convincing me to stay. My subscription has already risen to $80 a year, so the value is gone.

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- PaulDevonUK@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Do your self a favour and check out Brother color lasers. Prices are quite good and the speed and quality outstrip a jet by a long way.
  
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  - Veedem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    My printer is mainly used for color photos and laser printers just aren’t as good at handling those.
    
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- trachemys@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Be sure to research the ink sponge situation on the ecotank. When it is full, epson has drm to force you to get licensed service to replace it. No expensive cartridges, but expensive sponge instead.
  
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  - MisterD@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Change the EcoTank sponge yourself: ifixit.com/…/Epson+ECO+TANK+"inkpad"+requires+rep…
    
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- LifeInOregon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’ve had an EcoTank for two years and have been VERY happy with it. My only complaint is that I should have gone for a model that allows double sided printing.
  
  The price on the ink is great, that you can fill individual colors as needed is nice, and the print quality is very good.
  
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- LazaroFilm@artemis.camp ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I ditched the cartridge crap for an eco tank and it’s great. You can even buy off brand Ink bottle for super cheap.
  
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tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
People will still buy it when they suffer economically or ignorance. If there was another system where people could vote on a business death penalty HP and other printer IP holders habe already earned my vote.

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- BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Nothing like having to pull out the official ink to clear a paper jam and be told afterwards that the ink you just took out is not the same official ink or gasp reused so the printer punishes you by using more ink so you buy the official ink next time that you already bought.
  
  Fuck HP.
  
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mo_lave@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
For the love of the old gods what kind of Lovecraftian horror is this

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ArugulaZ@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Wow, HP. Way to make even Lexmark look like a paragon of corporate virtue in the home printer market.

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slidinggoal@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I have a m11 laser printer. I bought the compatible laser cilinder thingy with a tiger and a green box because hp laser ink is double the price.

So far I have no problems with printing. Aside from the fact that hp puts an exclamation after each print with the prompt: DANGER! COUNTERFEIT INK CARTRIDGE InstALLED!

Ok man I’ll be careful so it doesn’t explode. Only because it’s not the proprietary ink…. Hope I didn’t give them any ideas…

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HellAwaits@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Pretty soon, you’re going to need to subscribe to HP to even just print out of their damn printers.

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thejml@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Yet another reason I’m glad I got my Canon Pixima 5000 series a while back. Individual cheap replacement ink carts with no electronics in them. I can (and have) buy 5 sets of carts for $20 that last me years.

If it wasn’t for photos, I’d have picked up a cheap laser printer.

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randint@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Not to defend HP^[1]^, but if you look closely at the picture, the sticker has an arrow suggesting you to peel off the sticker. I would still say that the intentions of even putting this sticker there is malicious though.

a picture of the sticker

[1]: I’ve also been “scammed” by HP. I have a DeskJet 2130 bought more than 5 years ago. (I guess you could say it was from before HP went greedy.) It was under only very light use (occasional school stuff that needed to be printed out). Every time I came back to the printer after not using the printer for several months, the ink cartridges would have dried out. I would swap them out because they wouldn’t work even after shaking, none the wiser that half of the “empty” cartridges probably could have been revived by wiping it with a tissue. (I discovered this only 1 year ago when I tried it.)

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- Dark_Arc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Inkjet printers need to be used regularly, or go through several cleaning prints (which are features of HP printers). That’s not HP scamming you, that’s just how inkjet printers are…
  
  That said, IMO, most people are infrequent printers and would be better served by a laser printer. Toner doesn’t dry out. I have had a brother laser printer for 3-4 years now and haven’t had to change the toner once. Every time I need to print something, it fires right up, and prints it without a fuss.
  
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  - randint@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yeah I eventually figured that out, hence the quotes. When my HP printer dies, I will replace it with a Brother printer.
    
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JetAnhyzer@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I switched to a brother laser printer last year and will never go back to a hp or Epson, especially ink.

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tallwookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I’ve been really happy with my samsung laser printer - bought it 10+ years ago, works flawlessly to this day

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A2PKXG@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
What’s stopping some printer company from being nice and pleasant?

Is us, who buy the cheapest model in the store without considering maintenance cost?

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- Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I shop for ink first and then a printer. Monoprice used to offer insanely cheap ink for my brother printer.
  
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Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Country make atomic bomb.

USA invade the country.

“Hide the atomic bomb button with a sticker”

See ? We don’t have an atomic bomb.

USA : you got oil tho.

Shit , we forgot to print the “not an oil pump” stickers. We’re fucked !

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