Why I use libreoffice.
Microsoft Word documents will be saved to the cloud automatically on Windows going forward
Submitted 3 weeks ago by simple@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
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ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Seriously, Microsoft!?!?
Is this on Macs too?!?
nocturne@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Is this on Macs too?!?
Not mine, then again I use nothing Microsoft on my Mac.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
this operating system still costs like $100
Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
/ per year
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Try 150$ :(
floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
There are other ways, if you have to use it but don’t want to give Microsoft money. One way is just not to activate it. Almost everything still works.
A better way is not to use Windows, but not everyone can avoid it all the time.
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Operating system sold separately. Some assembly required.
d3lta19@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Who the fuck pays full price for windows? Just buy an oem license for like $15.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
i don’t need a license to kick myself in the nuts
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Jesus christ. So glad I ditched MS. It’s like getting out of a cult - once you see it looking in from the outside, you finally realize how terrible it is.
kepix@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
this has been goin on for like a year now. i have an offline profile with no onedrive on my machine, and tried the latest office. theres a slider saying autosave, but i was unable to use it. felt kinda weird that there is no autosave feature anymore. turns out autosave has been a cloud save option, and poor excel was not able to savemy private data to the onedrive datafarm. also the new excel is super slow compared to like the 2016 version, which indicates that theres more bloat under the hood.
pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The slider you’re mentioning is specifically for cloud sync, correct. But as far as I know Word still does the thingy where it will periodically snapshot and allow you to recover previous versions.
I’m not 100% sure because I don’t use it at home anymore but I still do at work.
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Cool It finally gets Google docs core functionality after 20 years.
realitista@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Actually it had auto save for more than a decade. It’s just that now they removed the ability to autosave locally, it must be to onedrive.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
It didn’t remove anything, they’re just changing the default save location. You can revert it if you want, it’s all in the article…
glibg@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Google Docs has been a thing for 20 years? Wow I feel old
Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Started using Google Docs around 4th/5th grade. I’m a Sophomore in college now…
Still like Google online collaboration more than Microsoft online collaboration, so it’s still dogshit after 20 years…
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I actually appreciate this. The only place I use Word is at work, and nothing I create in Word at work is ‘mine’. I do not care at all about the security of things I do at work (that’s for our IT Security team to care about), and all this means is that if I accidentally screw up, or if my computer just up and dies on me… all of my work files should be ‘safe’.
My employer has been going very hard towards ensuring that our work computers can ONLY be used for work purposes. Once I accepted this and embraced it I found that I’m now 100% free of Microsoft for anything personal, and it is amazing.
AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
there is a reaching hand that goes further than just using it for work.
lets say you open libreoffice writer and write a party invite. you send this party invite to a friend - they are invited to your party.
your friend opens it in MSWord, its uploaded to the cloud and scraped for all of your personal data to train their AI and to be sold to the lowest bidder.
you had and want nothing to do with microsoft, but they are still harvesting your data.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Export to a .pdf, automatically opens by default in user browser via local storage as a reader, bypasses MS
This is still problematic shit though, on the same level as enabling Recall by default and encrypting W11 storage devices by default.
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I agree, however you’re never going to be able to fully control things that you’ve sent out for other people. Even this post can, and likely will, end up as training data for AI. ‘The only winning move is not to play’ applies to a lot of things in life, and if you truly want to protect your data then the best move is to not create any data. The second best move is to not share any data that you’ve created.
Broken@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I mean, I’m in the same boat. This doesn’t effect me except for work stuff. But here’s the thing, all of my documents are already backed up to the cloud via OneDrive settings. So this is redundant at best.
At the end of the day, one of the reasons I hate the MS experience is because they push things on you. Its not your PC, its theirs. Hey, you want to use OneDrive? No? Are you sure? No? Are you really sure? No? Why don’t I just turn it on for you so you can see how great it is. You must have turned it off by accident, let me turn it back on. OK, OK I get it you really don’t want to use onedrive. Oh, I forgot that fact once our annual update came out and undid that setting. You straight out uninstalled onedirve and altered your registry? Ok, how about we just upload Word documents for you.
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Part of why I still hate it at work; work knows almost everything about me. People with poor understanding of PII have my personal information, and use MS products. Microsoft knows all of that, and everything that I type, the notes I make, the phrases I use, inferences on my interests, and can combine that with other profiles. It helps put together a much more complete picture and profile of me and why I interface with. And I can’t opt out, can’t use Linux, and can’t just go somewhere else to avoid it.
muhyb@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Meanwhile here I am with
ghostwriter3laws@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I used nano for over 10y, I’m a nvimer now.
I just can’t ever go back to office UI stuff. For my designs I still have Krita and Inkscape.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
This creates a circus act to protect documents. Thank goodness for great alternatives. I use a mix of LibreOffice and Cryptpad. Suits me perfectly.
silt_haddock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I would love to switch to LibreOffice (or similar) but I haven’t been able to find a way to get tables to work in the same way they do in Excel, and that’s a deal breaker for me. None of the suggested approaches come close to being able to select a range, press ctrl+t and immediately be able to filter/sort/lookup using column names from anywhere in the document. I use that feature dozens of times a day, and so does everyone in my circles that deals with financial data.
ripcord@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What about OnlyOffice?
Pupscent@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
You can purchase the Microsoft apps , would, excel, PowerPoint, as a package that you own. There are no upgrades. You own them.
I am in the process of moving to Linux and Libreoffice at the moment. I’m working at getting myself off of Onedrive at the moment.
Once complete I will start the process of getting off Google. I’ve been using Proton for years and I am going to remove any other online support.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think you name the range, and then you can do the same using ctrl+shit+L
I may not remember right, but I haves used calc and excel interchangeably since it was open office. Some things in excel drive me up the wall, some things in calc do to.
Either way, the best thing I found was get the data out of spread sheets and into something that can work with it better. Like sql or pandas.
But I get that for financial work, it is a staple. Which frightens me to no end.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Per the article this can be deactivated
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Turning it on by default (opt-out instead of opt-in) is still a huge concern and needs spreading the word about.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Oh very much so. Casual users are going to be donating their documents for AI processing and not even know it
Technotica@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Windows!
laughs quietly in Linux
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Silence! The great Microsoft has decreed that from this day forward your documents belong to them! No dissension!
Proceed to the payment portal to pay your offerings immediately. Only those worthy enough to play for the Extra^TM^ and Premium^TM^ tiers will be allowed to use the File menu.
latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I don’t get it, does Microsoft WANT everyone to stop using their products? First they fuck uptheir OSes, then they start planting shady shit in their OSes, and now it’s down to every single goddamned piece of software they poop out! What in the fuck are they even doing!
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Office is the product that helped keep Microsoft ticking over. The world is too dependant on Office and people won’t abandon it just because of this.
My fat fingers keep trying to type Microsoft Orifice.
abfarid@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure most regular users will not even notice the charge, and find it useful down the line. Cause one day they will mess something up, complain to MS that they “lost their work”, will be pointed to the cloud where everything was synced, and rejoice. Most users don’t really care about the implications that their documents are in the cloud.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
They’re rent-seeking, more than they already are. The data must flow for training, actively burned bridges be damned.
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What if I dont use M$ account? So it is just a local user, then where does the backup take place?
dimjim@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This is why Microsoft is making it damn near impossible to set up a new computer without logging into a Microsoft account. Luckily the OOBE trick still works (for now).
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Office 366 requires an account to validate the license. Potentially it might work differently for the long term licensed versions (which features released to O365 now wouldn’t reach until the next LTSC release), but I’ve not performed the initial install and licensing of those for clients yet
Or for home users who aren’t already invested in a Microsoft ecosystem your best bet is to just use Libre Office
davidagain@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Some executive noticed that they can’t sell you larger cloud storage if you haven’t used it up.
Then someone on the office copilot team said they wished they had access to more comprehensive data about what people write with office apps and the rest is history.
QuestionMark@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I’ll just use LibreOffice, but… a lot of people just don’t care. Which does also impact us.
deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
LibreOffice does everything I need except that their version of Power Point (forgot the name lol) is a mess to work with in terms of making the slide deck visual appealing. Automatic guide lines, snapping and smartart, to name a few.
Thinking about onlyoffice but I’m not sure if I can trust them since I read about then trying to hide their ties to Russia.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Munoz backs up the decision with half a dozen advantages for saving documents to the cloud. From never losing progress and access anywhere to easy collaboration and increased security and compliance.
Munoz kept out the little details where nobody wants this and this is only a good thing for Microsoft
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
im using a cracked version, i also dont have cloud for ms, no problem there.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
Good thing I stopped using MS WORD a long time ago.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I stopped at MS Word 2.0, when the Microsoft people agreed with me that it was pretty much broken for large files, and pointed me to an FTP site where there was a new version… which also was broken. Long story short, that’s when I first installed Linux and ran LaTeX and Applixware.
hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
ODT is better than whatever abomination Microsoft calls a document format.
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
See ya Ms Products! I hope you all like that cloud of yours!
nuko147@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This will make happy many companies…
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“No, I don’t think it will”
Korkki@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
No big corporation or state institution handling vast amounts of customer data will not allow this. Also really bad for regular consumer too. Microsoft servers will become treasure trove for hackers.
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bullshit like like often only applies to the consumer, not the business version.
granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 2 weeks ago
That's because we are not "customers"
People can't seem to figure out that they are the mark at the poker table
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I have a Word document saved into my ‘personal account vault’ which is for personal thoughts (like a diary). Does this mean, they’ll automatically upload this too into their cloud?
If that’s the case, not sure what to do. Tempted to go back to old school diary but risk the chance of my family finding it.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Markdown is great for that. There also are some WYSIWYG and a lot of side-fiew editors.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Thanks, I’ll look into Markdown!
Or is it about saving notes to cloud?
No, that’s not it. I just want a Word-alike thing that allows me to put a password on it and use it as a ‘modern diary’ (like how you can make chapters and such in Word).
Not sure if I explained it well, English isn’t my native language. So wasn’t sure how to explain it
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Time to learn another language then mix them
Siu Mit USA De Fa Si Si Zu Yi
The Only Good Fa Xi Si Zu Yi Ze Hai Sei Zo Ge(Destroy fascism in the USA
The only good fascist is a dead one)Now just need to transpose that and replace some characters. Of course, making it offline would greatly reduce government/corporate surveillance threats. As long as your family aren’t cryptographers, they won’t be able to decrypt it.
(Its Tri-Lingual. Cantonese Jyutping, Mandarin Pinyin, and English of course. Romanization of characters makes it harder to guess words especially when it gets transposed with a bunch of others.)
edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
the_q@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Gotta feed that AI!
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
Switched to linux. No regrets so far.
Of the installs I’ve done in the past year, none were absolutely flawless. One had an error that I just hit “retry” and it worked. One required some serious googling but I found the fix on reddit (rip). One didn’t work at all, and I switched to a different distro that did work.
I’m not going to lie and sugarcoat it, but once I got past the install everything has been fine. Hopefully things will continue to improve