Microsoft Word documents will be saved to the cloud automatically on Windows going forward
Submitted 8 months ago by simple@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
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abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
No, I don’t think they will. LibreOffice
CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Google doc for me. It is free and it is good enough.
meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s interesting, since Google Docs has always automatically saved files to the cloud.
RickyWars@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Laughs in LaTeX?
absentbird@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve been writing all my college papers in LaTeX and it’s been great. They look so professional, and it’s easier to work on a collection of text files than one monolithic document.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Thank you to the skilled developers who bailed on OpenOffice when the shit stain company Oracle bought Sun, and formed LibreOffice.
I can only hope there will always be digital freedom fighters on the side of good.
I’ve donated to LibreOffice, and you should too, if you use their suite.
absentbird@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I love LibreOffice, but I wish there was an Android app. I’ve even considered learning more app development to try and help, but it’s such a daunting task.
Mavytan@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Check out the Collabra Office android app. It probably covers your needs.
bruzzard@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This here. Not fully featured but a decent reader and editor which we hope will improve with time. Good effort on the devs!
LibreOffice & Open Office Document Reader | ODF f-droid.org/packages/at.tomtasche.reader/
3laws@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There’s a web port AFAIK, web dev has a lower entry level
darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No they won’t
slaacaa@lemmy.world 8 months ago
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What if I dont use M$ account? So it is just a local user, then where does the backup take place?
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Office 366 requires an account to validate the license. Potentially it might work differently for the long term licensed versions (which features released to O365 now wouldn’t reach until the next LTSC release), but I’ve not performed the initial install and licensing of those for clients yet
Or for home users who aren’t already invested in a Microsoft ecosystem your best bet is to just use Libre Office
dimjim@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
This is why Microsoft is making it damn near impossible to set up a new computer without logging into a Microsoft account. Luckily the OOBE trick still works (for now).
Reygle@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“Fuck you, Microsoft.” -Everyone, at all times
Even if you’re not ready to come to Linux, you’re definitely ready to switch to LibreOffice. I dare you to try it.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“Fuck you, Microsoft.” -Everyone, at all times
Eh, that game where you had two gorillas standing on buildings lobbing exploding bananas at each other was pretty cool.
xvertigox@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m using OnlyOffice bins on linux and find it to be a fantastic suite for my (minimal) uses. Not sure how it works on Windows though.
Reygle@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m unclear on the differences between OpenOffice (which I genuinely thought was retired, didn’t realize it was still a thing) and LibreOffice. If it ever gives you trouble, do make the switch.
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wtiter and Impress should cover Word and Powerpoint perfectly. Even if your colleagues use Windows, you can still open them just fine.
Excel though is troublesome, especially those with coded VBA or some plugins from companies.
kalpol@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Yeah I got through school and could work just fine now with Calc. I’m sure it breaks when you get fancy but not that many people get that fancy.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
How will this work for (for example) cibersecurity companies that have reports full of client’s vulnerabilities and can’t have them hosted in their parties?
3laws@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A cybersecurity firm knows better.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
By their admins setting HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Office\16.0\Common\General PreferCloudSaveLocations to 0 using GPO probably
Strobelt@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I would guess we’re on the fuck around part and your question will be answered on the find out part
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
This feature doesn’t even work.
So many times I’ll save a word doc, attach it to outlook, and it’ll silently attach an older version of the word doc.
Word says its up to date, one drive says its up to date, but outlook still gets an old version.
It takes hours to resolve. Everything Microsoft wastes so much of my time.
nuko147@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This will make happy many companies…
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Per the article this can be deactivated
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Turning it on by default (opt-out instead of opt-in) is still a huge concern and needs spreading the word about.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Oh very much so. Casual users are going to be donating their documents for AI processing and not even know it
cley_faye@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“No, I don’t think it will”
hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
ODT is better than whatever abomination Microsoft calls a document format.
deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
LibreOffice does everything I need except that their version of Power Point (forgot the name lol) is a mess to work with in terms of making the slide deck visual appealing. Automatic guide lines, snapping and smartart, to name a few.
Thinking about onlyoffice but I’m not sure if I can trust them since I read about then trying to hide their ties to Russia.
Bwaz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
LibreOffice. No need for MS Office, ever
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You’re thinking as an individual. Excel in the business is what keeps Office afloat. There simply is no substitute. Even if you want to go with another spreadsheet, who’s going to trust that to faithfully import Excel data?
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
How many individuals care about what businesses do though? Usually they provide the hardware too, so it’s whatever when it comes to what the company chooses to use.
These are more individual concerns for personal hardware. So long live LibreOffice.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I’m not sure I even trust Excel to import an Excel file without mangling it.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Tell that to my company.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This is certainly about making sure your files are safe and definitely not about stealing your data for training AI. /s
Don’t let Murdersoft steal your data. Don’t contribute to their corruption or genocide assistance.
Step 1: fedoraproject.org
Step 2: www.libreoffice.orgJigglySackles@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m 99% of the way on LibreOffice. Gave it a solid go, but the main thing I use in excel is too cumbersome in Libre. I think it’s a great option for many people though.
innermachine@lemmy.world 8 months ago
As a clueless individual, how are they assisting genocide?
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A simple search for “microsoft genocide” would have given you those answers. But if that’s too much work, here you go.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Working hand in hand with the Israeli government in mass surveillance and (likely) AI-generated targeting data.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Thanks, going to try out LibreOffice. Does it has same (or similar) functions as Word itself?
_edge@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
No. That’s the point. LibreOffice does not send your data to Microsoft.
LibreOffice is what Microsoft Office WAS without the bugs. If Word and Excel worked for you before the cloud, Libre is golden.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Pretty much. It was OpenOffice years ago, but then Oracle got involved and so all the devs left and put a new name on it.
otacon239@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve been using it for over a decade now and have only rarely come across broken documents due to proprietary features. If you’re making docs for yourself, I’d say it’s pretty much a 100% replacement. Things can get a bit more fucky if you’re having exchanges where you edit with Libre and someone else edits with Word. But other than that, they’re pretty darn close.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s designed to be very similar. If you are already familiar with Word, you should feel right at home.
Korkki@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
No big corporation or state institution handling vast amounts of customer data will not allow this. Also really bad for regular consumer too. Microsoft servers will become treasure trove for hackers.
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Bullshit like like often only applies to the consumer, not the business version.
granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 8 months ago
That's because we are not "customers"
People can't seem to figure out that they are the mark at the poker table
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I have a Word document saved into my ‘personal account vault’ which is for personal thoughts (like a diary). Does this mean, they’ll automatically upload this too into their cloud?
If that’s the case, not sure what to do. Tempted to go back to old school diary but risk the chance of my family finding it.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Time to learn another language then mix them
Siu Mit USA De Fa Si Si Zu Yi
The Only Good Fa Xi Si Zu Yi Ze Hai Sei Zo Ge(Destroy fascism in the USA
The only good fascist is a dead one)Now just need to transpose that and replace some characters. Of course, making it offline would greatly reduce government/corporate surveillance threats. As long as your family aren’t cryptographers, they won’t be able to decrypt it.
(Its Tri-Lingual. Cantonese Jyutping, Mandarin Pinyin, and English of course. Romanization of characters makes it harder to guess words especially when it gets transposed with a bunch of others.)
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Markdown is great for that. There also are some WYSIWYG and a lot of side-fiew editors.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Thanks, I’ll look into Markdown!
Or is it about saving notes to cloud?
No, that’s not it. I just want a Word-alike thing that allows me to put a password on it and use it as a ‘modern diary’ (like how you can make chapters and such in Word).
Not sure if I explained it well, English isn’t my native language. So wasn’t sure how to explain it
Patches@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
Isn’t this already the default?
I have to change it on every single fuckin document already. Have done so for years now at work.
// I don’t use Word outside of work…
deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
It’s on per default when signed in to OneDrive. Actually a really nice feature tbh. However, you will be promoted to hell and back if you aren’t signed in to OneDrive. I like the feature for work but I don’t like the idea of it being the default setting.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
Switched to linux. No regrets so far.
Of the installs I’ve done in the past year, none were absolutely flawless. One had an error that I just hit “retry” and it worked. One required some serious googling but I found the fix on reddit (rip). One didn’t work at all, and I switched to a different distro that did work.
I’m not going to lie and sugarcoat it, but once I got past the install everything has been fine. Hopefully things will continue to improve
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
yet another reason to ditch microsoft
relativestranger@feddit.nl 8 months ago
sounds like a ‘service problem’ someone once spoke about…
acquire your ms office ‘elsewhere’ and never link it to a ms account. same with windows. no msa, no ‘cloud’ to save to.
and there is a service problem here.
aarRJaay@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Me me guess - is this so they can train the LLM using the data we’re ‘giving’ them? F U!!
the_q@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Gotta feed that AI!
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Most customers don’t want their users saving locally anyway for data protection and not having to do extra compliance and workstation management.
Of course folks here are acting like setting a default they don’t like is insane chaos.
AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 8 months ago
tell your friends.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 months ago
OnlyOffice gang www.onlyoffice.com/download-desktop.aspx
Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I like the idea of it, but it is Russian.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Silence! The great Microsoft has decreed that from this day forward your documents belong to them! No dissension!
Proceed to the payment portal to pay your offerings immediately. Only those worthy enough to play for the Extra^TM^ and Premium^TM^ tiers will be allowed to use the File menu.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
This will be good for the post I saw yesterday where someone was working on some story for weeks and lost it all because they didn’t have a backup lol
latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I don’t get it, does Microsoft WANT everyone to stop using their products? First they fuck uptheir OSes, then they start planting shady shit in their OSes, and now it’s down to every single goddamned piece of software they poop out! What in the fuck are they even doing!
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Office is the product that helped keep Microsoft ticking over. The world is too dependant on Office and people won’t abandon it just because of this.
My fat fingers keep trying to type Microsoft Orifice.
abfarid@startrek.website 8 months ago
I’m pretty sure most regular users will not even notice the charge, and find it useful down the line. Cause one day they will mess something up, complain to MS that they “lost their work”, will be pointed to the cloud where everything was synced, and rejoice. Most users don’t really care about the implications that their documents are in the cloud.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
They’re rent-seeking, more than they already are. The data must flow for training, actively burned bridges be damned.
muhyb@programming.dev 8 months ago
Meanwhile here I am with
ghostwriter3laws@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I used nano for over 10y, I’m a nvimer now.
I just can’t ever go back to office UI stuff. For my designs I still have Krita and Inkscape.