Microsoft Word documents will be saved to the cloud automatically on Windows going forward

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• phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Munoz backs up the decision with half a dozen advantages for saving documents to the cloud. From never losing progress and access anywhere to easy collaboration and increased security and compliance.

  Munoz kept out the little details where nobody wants this and this is only a good thing for Microsoft

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• Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I actually appreciate this. The only place I use Word is at work, and nothing I create in Word at work is ‘mine’. I do not care at all about the security of things I do at work (that’s for our IT Security team to care about), and all this means is that if I accidentally screw up, or if my computer just up and dies on me… all of my work files should be ‘safe’.

  My employer has been going very hard towards ensuring that our work computers can ONLY be used for work purposes. Once I accepted this and embraced it I found that I’m now 100% free of Microsoft for anything personal, and it is amazing.

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  • solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Part of why I still hate it at work; work knows almost everything about me. People with poor understanding of PII have my personal information, and use MS products. Microsoft knows all of that, and everything that I type, the notes I make, the phrases I use, inferences on my interests, and can combine that with other profiles. It helps put together a much more complete picture and profile of me and why I interface with. And I can’t opt out, can’t use Linux, and can’t just go somewhere else to avoid it.

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  • Broken@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, I’m in the same boat. This doesn’t effect me except for work stuff. But here’s the thing, all of my documents are already backed up to the cloud via OneDrive settings. So this is redundant at best.

    At the end of the day, one of the reasons I hate the MS experience is because they push things on you. Its not your PC, its theirs. Hey, you want to use OneDrive? No? Are you sure? No? Are you really sure? No? Why don’t I just turn it on for you so you can see how great it is. You must have turned it off by accident, let me turn it back on. OK, OK I get it you really don’t want to use onedrive. Oh, I forgot that fact once our annual update came out and undid that setting. You straight out uninstalled onedirve and altered your registry? Ok, how about we just upload Word documents for you.

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  • AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    there is a reaching hand that goes further than just using it for work.

    lets say you open libreoffice writer and write a party invite. you send this party invite to a friend - they are invited to your party.

    your friend opens it in MSWord, its uploaded to the cloud and scraped for all of your personal data to train their AI and to be sold to the lowest bidder.

    you had and want nothing to do with microsoft, but they are still harvesting your data.

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    • Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I agree, however you’re never going to be able to fully control things that you’ve sent out for other people. Even this post can, and likely will, end up as training data for AI. ‘The only winning move is not to play’ applies to a lot of things in life, and if you truly want to protect your data then the best move is to not create any data. The second best move is to not share any data that you’ve created.

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Export to a .pdf, automatically opens by default in user browser via local storage as a reader, bypasses MS

      This is still problematic shit though, on the same level as enabling Recall by default and encrypting W11 storage devices by default.

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• thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Which means an AI scans it…

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  • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No for most it’s customers and an option for them all. MS is very clear in its policies. Any AI services you use, isn’t sent back for training. The policy is very clearly explained and one of the clearer ones.

    Business or enterprise users data isn’t trained and individuals data can opt out

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie

      A lie is an assertion that is believed to be false, typically used with the purpose of deceiving or misleading someone.[1][2][3] The practice of communicating lies is called lying. A person who communicates a lie may be termed a liar.

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    • thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I remember when facebook had a policy to require users to opt-in to having third parties scrape users data, but then it turned out a “bug” caused FB to sell everyones data anyway and they made billions more money than they would have.

      I have no doubt a similar “bug” will make its way to the MS servers if one hasnt already.

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• obinice@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Let’s say this huge breach of security and privacy is okay.

  How are Microsoft ensuring these sensitive documents are not being transferred via or stored on servers located in hostile countries with lax data laws (such as foreign nations like the USA?).

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  • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Microsoft has already said it doesn’t matter where your data is stored, it isn’t safe from the United States.

    But you can change this behaviour in settings, it’s just the default for now.

    So, if you don’t trust Microsoft to handle your documents, but still somehow use MS Word and OneDrive, for the moment you can still stop it from saving your Word documents to their servers.

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    • Aqarius@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can change it for now.

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    • Exusia@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ms office 2016 install still going strong with zero cloud function. That day I lose it is the day LibreOffice copies itself from the laptop to the desktop. Aint paying for O365

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  • fullsquare@awful.systems ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    wdym, that’s the point

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• flandish@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  tip: do not write about the revolution, short stories, hatred of capitalism, your suicide plans, or your teenage angst and erotic anthropomorphic horse fan fiction.

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I love to kill cops ~in~ ~GTA~

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  • Cherry@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ensure to make sure every doc has 17 giant sized images saying FU MS

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  • saddlebag@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tina Belcher?

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    • flandish@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ha! Exactly where I was going with that.

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  • Kenny2999@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So just bpmb threats and realistic beastiality. Got it.

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  • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    tip: Only write about the revolution, short stories about your hatred of capitalism, your suicide plans, or your teenage angst and erotic anthropomorphic horse fan fiction.

    For everything else, use LibreOffice.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      bingo

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    • flandish@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      directions unclear, now I’m directing a netflix special on sexy horse guerrillas.

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• Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You can turn it off. Opt-out is still bullshit.

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  • bitwolf@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Perks of not signing into Windows with a Microsoft account… Oh wait

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  • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t trust Microsoft not to flip that switch back when I’m not looking.

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  • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    until your computer force reboots itself in the middle of the day to do updates it didn’t tell you about, and you log back in and later that night find it uploaded all your shit to the cloud and just for good measure deleted some of it too as a fuck you

    it’s the Microsoft way

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  • mintiefresh@piefed.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Microsoft all about opting out rather than opting in.

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  • CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The true opt out is to stop using Microsoft products

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can’t opt out, most healthcate providers use windows.

      Mental health awareness? No thanks, I rather just write in a journal and talk to myself in the mirror as therapy.

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  • kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    • you can turn it off for now

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can make yourself believe that you turned it off for now*

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• nukeforyou@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What if I’m using a pirated copy of windows and office?

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You get deported to Uganda.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      rwanda. too.

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    • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Uganda be kiddin’ me.

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• MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  www.libreoffice.org if you want microsoft to stop messing with your office apps.

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  • simple@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is also only office which has better compatibility with MSOffice file types

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    • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Downside is ties to Russia and performance is really bad, as I understand it’s an Electron web app, not a native application. It also won’t save to network shares properly and will lose your file if you do.

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    • petrjanda@gonzo.markets ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Don’t ever save your files directly on a samba share with only office. Lost hours of work twice . It doesn’t keep recovery files.

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    • mintiefresh@piefed.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This here.

      I wish Only Office got as much fanfare as LibreOffice. The UI is much closer to Microsoft Office and it tends to have better compatibility.

      I have both installed though and use them both lol.

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  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I second this. There’s a little bit of a learning curve on some of the functionality, but it’s not bad at all. And most of the functionality is very easy to find. I moved over to Libre Office several years ago and it’s been great.

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    • SSUPII@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can now enable a tabbed interface similar to Microsoft Office

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    • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Office would have a learning curve too if you hadn’t been using it since you were a child.

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• Prox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I suppose this means Microsoft will not count Word doc file sizes against users’ cloud storage quotas, right? Right??

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, they upload your file, delete the local file, then oopsie, you ran out of cloud storage, please pay $99/month to access your files.

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  • ook@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mario_Kart8_deluxe.iso.docx

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Anakinsmirk.jpg

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’ll be like Google: everything goes in, nothing comes out unless you jump through difficult hoops, price continually goes up.

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    • kernelle@0d.gs ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you’re in the EU, you can apply for a GDPR request to get sent a copy of all your data in their cloud, same for iCloud. Takes about 48 hours in my experience.

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Where do you think Google learned it?

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    • muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Getting anything out is already almost impossible. I moved sway from 3rd party cloud storage a couple years back. I had to get 500gb from onedrive and it was refusing to download at anything more than 50kb/s (my internet was significantly better than that)

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  • i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    🤣

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• MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Seriously, Microsoft!?!?

  Is this on Macs too?!?

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  • nocturne@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is this on Macs too?!?

    Not mine, then again I use nothing Microsoft on my Mac.

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