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Google will block sideloading of unverified Android apps starting next year

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08/google-will-block-sideloading-of-unverified-android-apps-starting-next-year/

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  • simsalabim@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    EU: How often do I have to teach you, old man?

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    • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      EU is moving full steam ahead toward the end of “private” computers and mandatory state surveillance on your devices. They’ll be delighted with that. The funky “hey, we’re consumer friendly” times are over.

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    • Xatolos@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      EU: Thank you Google for complying with the DSA.

      commission.europa.eu/…/digital-services-act_en

      This is a a huge part of it, the whole “prevent illegal” parts.

      • “easier reporting of illegal content”
      • “less exposure to illegal content”
      • “level-playing field against providers of illegal content”

      The EU isn’t going to punish them for this, they will hold this up as the golden standard.

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      • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The EU waltz.

        One step forward. Two steps to the side. Three steps back.

        Repeat.

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      • General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The Cyber Resilience Act may also have something to do with this.

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      • NicestDicerest@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just as they did with Apple when they forced them to allow sideloading? So yeah, the EU will push massively against this if its implemented there.

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      • localhorst@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • mlg@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I will pay hard cash money for some devs to bring postmarketos to quality hardware vendors.

    I’m all for buying a pinephone, but man are we missing out on the full potential from some genuinely good OEM hardware stuff like razr flip.

    Aside from google doing google things, android has been a bloated java pos toy OS for nearly a decade now. It completely wastes the full potential of superior hardware by running everything on a shitty JVM known as the ART that was designed for when devices had <512mb of RAM. A Nintendo 3DS can do better multi process tasking than modern android which regularly kills app threads for no reason other than to screw with you because you dared to switch to a different app for 5 seconds.

    Android was supposed to be the big apple killer because of its closeness to a desktop OS with heavy emphasis on widespread features and functionality. Even technically speaking, rooting got you there if you wanted to run whatever straight on the linux environment or swap kernels.

    Its nothing but a ripoff iOS clone now. Android 7/8 was probably the peak of development and usability, and even back then people were complaining it didn’t have groundbreaking improvements like 6 or lollipop.

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    • ominousdiffusion@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think that it’s the lack of quality hardware what is stopping adoption of Linux on phones. There are many resons why I don’t consider someting like PostmarketOS viable as a daily driver for most.

      First of all some apps are just not available on Linux. Banking apps are a prime example. Most banks are now requiring some form of app where I live and they don’t even consider Linux. But that’s also another problem in it self.

      Secondly: driver support. Drivers aren’t something one thinks about when talking about phones. But they are needed and mobile phones being what they are, most manufacturers aren’t really open to do anything in that regard.

      As an Android developer I’m also annoyed by the restrictive power management of Android. But it’s there for a reason. On PostmarketOS my phone would be dead after sitting around all day doing noting. On Android I can maybe squeeze two to three days of use out of the same phone. And that’s not even with the OEM rom.

      That being said, I hope for a future were all of the current issues can be solved and we finally have a viable alternative to Apple and Google.

      To be clear, I’m in no way trying to defend what Google is doing.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I honestly don’t care about apps. I switched to GrapheneOS and opted to not use Google Play Services, so my app selection is very limited, especially for things like banking apps. It turns out I can just use the website for the vast majority of them, and I can fill in the gaps with FDroid apps.

        The main things stopping me from using a Linux phone (eg PostmarketOS) are:

        • MMS compatibility - I use this a lot with family, and getting everyone on Signal or something isn’t going to happen
        • battery efficiency - the best I’ve heard is 8 hours with light use, and there are still issues receiving notifications in standby mode
        • hardware quality issues and drivers - every phone supported by PostmarketOS either has a bunch of unsupported hardware (ie no camera support), or the hardware is poor (ie the PinePhone has crappy audio)

        I don’t need a flagship with top tier driver support, I just need basic phone things to work. I’m even okay with poor camera quality, provided I can take pictures of things and clearly read the text later. I don’t need much in terms of app support, and I’m willing to help port things I need. But my phone needs to work as a phone, and it needs to do so all day without needing to charge until night.

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  • MisterD@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    FYI: Apple got sued for blocking other app stores. This would prevent f-droid from being installable

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    • peppy@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      f-droid would be verified right?

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      • JustARaccoon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’d be up to Google to do so, and they probably will just as an example of them totally not being a monopoly “look we even allowed a competing store”.

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  • daq@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do any alternatives allow using banking apps or android pay or android auto?

    I realize there are no substitutes for banking apps, but are there any alternatives for android auto or pay if those cannot be installed? Preferably Linux alternatives.

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    • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The substitutes for banking apps are banking websites. If your bank does not allow you to use your bank from a website, you should switch banks. I did.

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    • Havatra@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      /e/OS works with most, according to this list.

      The founder of /e/OS has a blog where he talks about alternative payment solutions, and he mentions Curve being one.

      I just recently ordered the Fairphone with /e/OS, and will be looking into this myself soon enough…

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      • daq@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Curve is not available in US and has terrible reviews on Play store.

        I’d switch in a heartbeat, but I can’t live without a smart watch and having to pay with physical cc again would be a massive downgrade.

        I have a suspicion that all the android clones will become a much worse/unusable experience once Google implements these changes.

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    • spicehoarder@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Seriously, I see these custom Android Auto USB Sticks that people use to watch Netflix and I just want to know how they hooked into the APIs to do that

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  • RacerX@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I kinda miss my BlackBerry.

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    • HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      androidauthority.com/blackberry-classic-revive-an…

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    • Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Kinda? More like deeply.

      Hands down the best experience I have had on a phone was my z10. Over 10 years later, and I still use BlackBerry’s keyboard.

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      • bier@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I never had a blackberry, but my HTC Desire Z was peak typing. You slide the keyboard out and have a full keyboard. I typed very fast on that thing, every phone I got after that sucked at typing.

        This phone upload.wikimedia.org/…/HTC_Desire_Z_overview.jpg

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  • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ffs if I have to move to apple before the third option is stable.

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    • spicehoarder@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I will forever lament my windows phone. Ironically, it was the only option that didn’t need to be rooted to do custom shit. You could just screw with the registry

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      • RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It didn’t live long enough to become a villan

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  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Did some research and here are your options:

    • use custom mod (the new restriction only applies to certified devices). You can use microG (/e/, iode, Lineage) or sandboxing (GrapheneOS) to run apps requiring Google services. Google will still try to kill it but my bet is it will still work for at least a couple of years
    • Ubuntu Touch - you can buy new devices with it, it can run android apps using waydroid but you will not be able to run any apps requiring google services. It can run native Linux apps. Native UT apps are build using QML. It has a completely new system API so it’s closer to Android then native Linux. It’s based on Halium which uses the kernel from Android
    • PostmarketOS - native Linux running native Linux apps. Can use waydroid. Few supported devices but everything works on PinePhone Pro and few others phones.
    • Droidian or similiar - Debian running on Halium. Kind of half way between PostmarketOS and Ubunut Touch. Native Linux but running on Android based kernel

    Personally, I will stick with GrapheneOS for now (my Pixel still has at least 6 years of support). When I’m unable to run all the apps I need on it I will switch to two phones setup: stock Android for work/car apps, some Linux phone for everything else. When my Pixel dies I will switch to iPhone.

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    • sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What are u talking about. Were u living under a rock? - Google killed off most custom roms

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    • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What’s a good custom ROM for a Samsung Fold 7? Just bought one and it’s my dream phone so so I don’t want to give it up so soon already, just so I can watch YouTube without ads. Planned on keeping it for at least the next 4-5 years…

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      • shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You really should have thought about that before buying the device. You cannot install a custom ROM on my Samsung device anymore.

        You always have to look at what devices custom ROMs support BEFORE buying them.

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      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you want to use custom ROMs you have to check support before buying a phone. Fold 7 is not supported by any custom ROMs from what I can see. Also, I’m pretty sure you can just use Fennec with Adblock on stock Android and not have ads.

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      • possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you want custom roms, you have a fairly restricted set of options for phones.

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    • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Google has already started killing GrapheneOS by removing device trees from AOSP releases. Android 16 works fine, but for how long?

      I would imagine the first thing any custom ROM would do is bypass Google’s app restrictions.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if in 3 years I would need to pass hardware attestation to install a calculator app from the Play store.

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      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I would imagine the first thing any custom ROM would do is bypass Google’s app restrictions.

        Those restrictions don’t apply to custom ROMs. Yes, it’s clear Google is trying to kill custom ROMs but I think we still have couple of years. Linux phones are improving fast and I think in 5 years we will end up in the same spot we were with PCs 20 years ago: you will be able do most of daily driving on a Linux phones but some apps just won’t be possible to run (Authenticator apps, banking apps, Whats App, Android Auto…). Dual booting will not be possible so most probably I will end up with two phones: daily driver and work/car phone.

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      • tranquil_cassowary@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        GrapheneOS still intends to support all the supported devices until EOL. The sideloading change doesn’t affect them. It won’t apply to GrapheneOS. It only applies to certified OSes and GrapheneOS is not certified because it doesn’t license Google Mobile Services. As per the rip out of the device trees for Pixels, that just makes Pixels like other phones. GrapheneOS has been able to expand it’s automation to build that device support themselves. For new devices, making the support will take longer than it did in the past though, but they will still support those Pixels, as long as they meet the hardware requirements and still allow third-party OS support with all security features intact. Besides that GrapheneOS is actively talking with a major Android OEM right now in order to help them reach the security requirements for a subset of their future devices. They are very optimistic about tha

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  • Konstant@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wasn’t Apple sued for not allowing sideloading?

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    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can sideload but the developer has to be authorized by Google. I.e. you can still install apps from f-droid but people publishing apps on f-droid will have to register with Google.

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      • amju_wolf@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This might be an issue because f-droid re-signs apps with their own keys…

        I mean depends on enforcement I guess.

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      • kolorafa@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I dont have an issue with a festure to allow my phone to automatically veirfy signatures. But there should be a way to import/configure more signature verification providers including my own authority and even then it should still allow imstall if user really want and trust it.

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  • woland@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Great. This could be just the boost that free android needs. Graphene and eos can brace for a few new customers i guess

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    • halfsak@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve been using graphene for a few months, but this latest news was what reminded me to start a monthly donation to the project. Hopefully Googles shenanigans push more people towards funding alternatives as well

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      • Glitchvid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve gotta get a new phone soon (ol Pixel 3 is getting long in the tooth) and this is what I’m looking at too. I highly prefer the “default” Android UI, and the ability to install programs of my own choosing — but fuck Google, imagine getting locked of your phone just because Google randomly unpersoned you.

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    • RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Graphene developers seem enthusiastic to all the bullshit that Google comes up with, and on security/privacy tradeoff they seem to usually choose security. Case in point, the mandatory battery update.

      CalyxOS seems to choose privacy first, but that project folded recently.

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      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I didn’t fold. They are just reorganizing. Don’t spread misinformation.

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  • tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don’t seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I’ve heard) pretty decently: furilabs.com

    Biggest drawback is it’s based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn’t worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.

    Collection of different experiences I’ve variously seen online over the last year or so:

    • clehaxze.tw/…/07-20-flx1-actually-usable-linux-ph…
    • news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41839326
    • www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/…/furilabs_flx1/
    • www.reddit.com/r/…/flx1_linux_phone_display_out/
    • www.theregister.com/2025/02/03/furiphone_flx1/

    I don’t own one, myself, so I can’t give any personal experience but I’ve seen it around for a few years now but most people don’t seem to even know about it. Maybe there’s a reason for that? But none I’ve ever seen anyone say.

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    • ArchEngel@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wow, thanks for this comment, I think I may have finally found my next phone! I did not expect Linux with android, wireless charging, NFC, and hopefully one day display out. Thanks for commenting!

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    • Spaniard@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Looks good but it’s too bulky.

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      • tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah; that’s totally fair. Mostly, I just want to get it more known; whenever Mobile Linux come up, people namedrop Purism, the Pinephone, maybe UBPorts and the general conclusion is that the spec.s, alone, of what’s available are pretty much a non-starter.

        There’s definitely aspects of this phone that some people wouldn’t go for but I’d rather sales be limited by not-the-right-choice than just no one knew it existed; especially when any progress can get sent upstream and improve future projects, as well.

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    • GorGor@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      HOLY SHIT IS THAT A HEADPHONE JACK?!

      Seriously this ticks boxes Ive given up on. I never thought Id see a phone with all three: waterproof, removable battery, headphone jack. It even has wireless charging which isnt really one of my boxes but is a little extra if you use it.

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  • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Democracy is dead. Welcome to the neo dark ages. Take up arms.

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, I mean, we have yet to see an actual serious cyberattack right? Aren’t security needs going to increase, not decrease?

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      • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The ability to filter information using proprietary devices and software in the kernel of all of these garbage devices is the core issue. Trusting the owners of that code is to surrender your right to unbiased and unfiltered information. I am not at all concerned about hacking or security by small insignificant players. I am massively concerned about the extremely powerful using the leverage they have normalized and embedded to become tyrannical neo feudal lords in a fascist society. Google IS the biggest danger by orders upon orders of magnitude. Trusting them is to give up democracy entirely.

        All mobile devices are proprietary. Android is a scheme to make a Linux kernel that has everything ready to deploy except the actual hardware drivers for the processor and modem. Manufacturers take this kernel and add their proprietary binaries at the last possible moment. That source code is not available anywhere. The hardware documentation is not available anywhere publicly. Every device model is just different enough that reverse engineering one does nothing transferable to any other. The level of reverse engineering is extreme and requires destroying many devices using things like fuming nitric acid and fluorine solutions just to have a small chance at reading some parts of embedded memory. These are some of the most dangerous and hazardous chemicals humans make, and you still need xray equipment, special microscopes with stepping automation to stitch images, and a ton of time.

        This is moving to a tyrannical surveillance state of fascist authoritarianism. Open source software is a major front on the line of real democracy. This is a nuclear bomb released on that democracy. You fear the wrong pirates and criminals. The biggest threats always come from within. Trust as a mechanism is fundamentally antithetical to democracy. Everyone demanding trust is a traitor to democracy. Trust is the key of the fascist kingdom. Once that key is held, democracy has failed regardless of whomever is aware of the situation. Democracy requires fully informed citizens with skepticism and the liberal right to decide for themselves even when they are wrong. This is impossible without full access to information. The source of that information cannot be filtered at any level. We already have the narrowest bottleneck of available information sources in the last 1000 years of history. There are only 2 relevant web crawlers. All search queries filter through one or both of these two and the results from these are not deterministic. Two people searching for the same thing at the same time will get very different and very biased results. This is individualized regardless of any protections people imagine they have in place. Outside of the internet there is no real unbiased media. A dozen people own it all. Even the garbage claiming to comb all sources is drawing the line and dictating what is center right or left is. Anyone at the grassroots level is impossible to find because there are no organic unbiased search results. The results are all filtered junk full of agenda and bias.

        This is the real big picture abstract issue in play. When the maga traitors said this was a coup, they absolutely ment that. Mobile devices are all rental garbage someone else controls. Your computer likewise has a secret operating system running in the background that you do not control. In Intel it is called the Intel Management Engines or ME. This started with Intel VPro in 2008. AMD adopted it is 2013. Arm has one too.

        All that is left is to steal your right to have a digital front door by eliminating DNS filtering and all of these devices will be controlled and connected directly by someone else that is watching and listening at all times. You are already in tethers as a digital slave that can be bought and sold for exploitation and manipulation without your consent or knowledge using your digital presence. You have not effectively realized the implications of that surrendering of rights to citizenship with full autonomy. The next step is to redefine the word citizen to be functionally equivalent to slave. “You will own nothing, and you will be happy about it” because if you are not, you will be dead. This is the death of democracy. My words will echo in your head years from now. The dystopia to come is beyond anything you can presently imagine and there is no way to stop it now short of taking up arms and playing Luigi if you are able.

        The consolidation of wealth is what really made Caesar. That was the death of the republic. It was not Caesar. We are all a product of our time and environment. It was the consolidation of great wealth. All that wealth did not give a shit about Rome, it went to Constantinople for better opportunities at first chance because consolidation of wealth is treasonous. It is as it was, just look at outsourcing and off shoring, or the disgusting mismanagement of banking and housing that have made the American worker completely uncompetitive with Asian counterparts at the same standard of living. No, I have no fear of the boogie man or foreign state actors. I am terrified of the criminal that normalizes domestic trust, actively manipulates and exploits me, and steals my purchased property. That is a real monster.

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  • DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hope MS doesn’t start doing this to Windows or else that would kill WINE/Proton, and also severely harm Windows itself given how deeply sideloading exes or msi files is ingrained into that OS.

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why would Linux have to respect the certificates?

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      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        maybe it could even turn out to be a sometimes useful measure there with the slight change of placing the decision in the hands of the user.

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  • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Modern business strategy be like “If you’re not building an illegal monopoly, consider doing so for more money”

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  • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oof, time to bite the bullet and switch email providers. Shit like this is why I’ve spent the last couple years de-googling my life.

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    • themadcodger@kbin.earth ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do it! It's not that bad. Everyone's got different needs, but I switched to fastmail and have been enjoying it.

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      • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you’re making the switch anyway, get yourself a domain name from a separate company to run it through. That way in the future you can keep using your domain even if you switch mail/web-hosting providers.

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  • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh hell yeah, I hope this means an exodus of people forking the latest open source software they can, or if not moving to Linux mobile altogether

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    • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If we could have a solidly performing Linux mobile that has the capability of docking into a full desktop OS, that shit would be an absolute game changer for personal computers.

      Give me something like the OG Moto Droid, or hell make it a tablet and I have to carry a bag, I don’t care.

      That would be my device for everything. I just remote into everything else anyway.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thats not how most people work.

      Just because there’s a problem, doesn’t mean people seek a solution.

      Thats why the majority of people in this country. They can each admit there is a problem. But they do nothing about it. Most don’t even try to diet or exercise.

      And you want them to switch to an unfinished linux phone system. They aren’t going to do that over this change. The vast majority don’t use more than 5 apps. What do they care? For most, the cell phone is the replacement for a pc, snd all its used for is to text, and go on tiktok and instagram.

      The changes you’re suggesting will work well for a certain crowd. That crowd is maybe 5% of the general population. The rest won’t even notice. And if they did, they’d just put up with it.

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      • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Please read my comment below, editing above too

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    • goatinspace@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Linux mobile is interesting but not ready yet.

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      • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Linux mobile phones won’t have to be ready if smartphones become un-ready.

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      • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not ready but if Google and all the manufacturers kill custom ROMs, everyone will have to switch to Linux or another OS. It’s not like Linux on the desktop where Windows is still acceptable.

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      • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah yeah, I had meant that I’d like it if people flocked from developing android to developing Linux mobile. I should have clarified that.

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  • xcjs@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Let Google know what you think: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/…/viewform

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    • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Does anyone read these or does it just go through ai?

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      • xcjs@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Who knows anymore? But I’d rather say something than accept it silently.

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  • commander@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mobile desperately needs hardware with first class open source drivers and firmware to get away from Google/Apple/Microsoft controlled software platforms. Phones have been super powerful for a long time beyond what most need. We can take hit in theoretical peak performance to build up a better ecosystem until the market is large enough that the big money has to address the market

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hello, I would like 1 Class Action please.

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      nah, you waived your rights to class action lawsuits on page 178 section 2.4 subsection b) paragraph 5) when you clicked accept on the first time setup screen of your phone.

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    • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you sue now you can get a second lawsuits for free!

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  • usernameunnecessary@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Same outcome as with their search engine, same thing with Chrome, Youtube and many other Google products. They built up their user base with a solid product (or bought it), and then started shitting all over their users by making horrible decisions and inserting all sorts of dark patterns in the name of “security” or whatever else pretense. I’m still hoping another entity steps up and fills the vacuum that Android leaves behind.

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  • ivn@jlai.lu ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Isn’t it against the EU’s DSA?

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    • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ode an die Freude starts playing in the background

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    • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, probably why this wont affect EU users.

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  • vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Finally. This will give a laaaarge boost to harmony os based phones (Huawei) saying Americans goodbye

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  • bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Don’t Be Evil”

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  • RiQuY@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is that even legal? Monopolistic behaviour.

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  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Didn’t they just lose a major lawsuit over their treatment of sideloaded apps and stores?

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  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The moment I don't get to run my own stuff and F-Droid, I'll be switching off smartphones.

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  • Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Meanwhile back at the ranch

    Malware-ridden apps made it into Google’s Play Store, scored 19 million downloads

    www.theregister.com/2025/…/apps_android_malware/

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    so basically i have to send in my id to google just to sideload a test apk i made in flutter to my own phone to test it out?

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  • N0t_5ure@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sure glad I de-googled with GrapheneOS that ironically runs on Pixel phones.

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  • TommySoda@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Google getting rid of all the things that made people want an android phone over an iPhone.

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  • sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don't like how tech is evolving...

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