Submitted 7 months ago by rustyredox@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tUnRWh4xOCY
The actual title of the video is:
Our GPU Black Market Documentary Has Been Taken Down by Bloomberg
Way less Click Bait sounding. And while a shitty thing for Bloomberg to do it is not any different than what tons of channels have been dealing with for years. So the Youtube sky is not falling any faster now than it was last week.
It’s not uncommon for titles to change over the first few hours after a release (A-B testing). I’ve seen the title as posted by the OP yesterday on my feed.
A copyright strike is a little bit more serious than a content id match, fwiw.
All YouTube will be is just AI “creator” slop soon. People should be ditching that shit post-haste.
Before Google came along, most search engines were manually curated. I’m disappointed that nobody’s had any success bringing that concept back. They always cave in and take the cheap route by trying to make the general public & algorithms rate things, which of course instantly gets gamed to uselessness.
Isn’t this a bit disingenuous to why they originally started to change the algorithm though?
People figured it out and started abusing it by spinning up proxy websites that would just link to the sites they wanted higher up in the rankings. You could argue Google only became an advertising company so that they could regulate that whilst also taking a slice.
I’m not arguing that they’ve since lost their way though.
These two comments read like Dejá-vu…
The pagerank algorithm worked fine for many years in the 2000-2010s
Aw, don’t you love searching for an update on something just for the algorithm to show you a low view count video that’s a mediocre computer voice talking over a barely related slideshow?
Oh absolutely. And it’s one of the same 3 or 4 voices in every video. And not only that, but a lot of the videos themselves are AI. Check the comments… yeah. No one notices or even cares.
It’s a foregone conclusion at this point. AI going to absolutely wreck the creativity of mankind. Art will be viewed in history books, and it’s fucking sad.
Fanimatrix was a fan made short movie that used torrents as the main distribution method. theguardian.com/…/so-grimy-so-cheap-new-zealand-m…
Easier than that. Just put it on peertube
Maybe they can finally get a real job? 😻
Bloomberg is that you ?
Did they hurt your feel feels? Should they have taken it easy on those multi million dollar companies shitty business practices? Don’t worry corpo-chan, those companies totally see you and plan an rewarding your loyalty. Lol
Yea, revenue certainly wouldn't be the same. As in, there would be no revenue.
Ad revenue. They’d still get sales through their store.
So, there are options.
You have three challenges:
You need to be discoverable
you need to be accessible
you need to monetize
If you just make videos and torrent them, you’re not monetized, you’re not discoverable and you’re not really very accessable to the average person.
Youtube is this nifty one-stop-shop that provides all three to a certain point.
Peertube gives you some discoverability and lots of accessibility, but nothing for monetization.
Odysee gives you a tiny bit of discoverability and lots of accessibility, but almost nothing for monetization.
Floatplane (assuming GN wasn’t feuding with LMG) gives you reasonable monetization and accessibility but almost nothing in discoverability.
What about Rumble? GN is on there and directly supportable.
Surely torrent distributed video can still have sponsorships in it, stick it up as a video on your own website is an option too. Could even go for low res video on website (cheap to host) along with an option of HD torrent.
Nobody is gonna watch a torrent tuber, the audience would get cut to 1/100th if even that.
Too many people rely on the aggregates and the algorithms.
It’s funny, I remember watching The Scene from torrents (or maybe eDonkey2000/eMule?) 20 years ago. And it was relatively popular. Though I don’t remember the last time I even had a BitTorrent client installed. If you’re right, then we’ve failed ourselves. (And you may be right.)
Yeh, absolutely.
The DMCA takedown works because music/film industry execs have previously gone after YouTube for not responding to legitimate copyright infringements.
So YouTube now favours the person claiming the strike and makes it very difficult for the defendant to exonerate themselves.
Changing how they publish will sidestep YouTube overplaying.
But YouTube has revenue split with content creators, and has an absolutely massive audience with discovery algorithms and community stuff. Moving away from that platform would be an insane move
Sounds like YouTubers should go after YouTube when this happens. Maybe a class action lawsuit for lost revenue?
While The title of the video is absolutely one of sensationalism, It’s not out of the question as two more strikes could indeed delete a channel…
One strike is nothing.
You’re getting downvoted, but this is true. Nearly everyone who does youtube has gotten a strike at some point, me includes. It goes away after 90 days. This means you can get a strike almost every month and keep going.
Stop building houses on the king’s land.
He should be on PeerTube, anyways.
Nah. He’d be better off on floatplane. I wonder why he isn’t… 🤔
LOL, the world may never know.
I’m still not sure which side of that whole thing i’m on. I know he’s less annoying than Linus. But even Billit labs seems to have less hate for LMG than he does :)
Waaaay less money to be made there. Not saying he’s exclusively doing this for the money like the other reply, but we’re not talking about some solo guy making videos in his free time for fun. The man is running a business, needs money to make this videos happen, and to my knowledge this is his job.
Can someone explain me why creators cant do both?
Its in their interest to have a solid backup when youtube inevitably dies.
That would defeat the entire purpose of sensationalist headlines and blowing up a Google search as a “deep investigation” which is this channel’s main source of attention.
They want the clicks on YouTube. Moving to PeerTube would be great if they just wanted the information to be out there, but that’s not their primary concern.
Undeniably he gets more clicks for this. However, would you deny somebody their own soapbox when they’re getting fucked by the system? He is using his leverage to call out the bullshit DMCA system that YouTube has in place which allows anybody to fuck with anybody. And in this case he’s bringing to light a giant Goliath of a company Bloomberg for fucking with his few person team, and for YouTube for making it the default.
Lemmy simps really hard for gamers nexus, even though they’re just a drama channel at this point.
Source of attention? By flying to another country and getting access to areas people never even knew? Lol wtf are you on about?
I don’t think they’re sensationalist, they just don’t sugarcoat the industry bullshit. And believe it or not, they need to make money from this, it doesn’t pay itself. It’s like saying newspapers should be free, or else informing the people isn’t their primary concern.
“A farmer wants the money. Giving the good away for free would be great if they just wanted to feed people, but that’s not their primary concern.” Can even pay that game for nurses etc
I do not understand why creators feel the need to be exclusively on one platform. Simply crosspost the videos.
$$$ that’s why. YouTube gives the greatest return. If they post to multiple platforms, not only is it more work, but they then also subtract from the number of views they get on YouTube. It’s all about the $$$.
Time for them to at minimum mirror their channel to Odysee and PeerTube so that they’ll still have a platform just in case their channel gets nuked.
This extends to the animation communities too given Google will probably flag those channels as underage with their AI at some point. Like, people like Saberspark, for example, also need to mirror to Odysee or PeerTube before their accounts get flagged, if not moving away from YT outright.
Even someone like PhantomStrider would benefit from that as well.
Bloomberg’s lawyer to Steve: how DARE you contact us without going through another lawyer
I don’t watch his channel, but from here it seems like he is in a “rage” spiral. Like being a bit unpleasant and when people respond to that he doubles down going fro just a bit to kind of an ass
I don’t watch his channel You could have stopped your commend right there, because what followed was nothing of value.
I apologize. I thought you were someone that completely blew up when they read my comment. You didn’t insult me
No necessarily. “I don’t watch his channel bit I whenever I hear about him he is in some sort of drama” is 100% true. I just wanted to know if I was wrong or not. The down votes tell me I’m wrong and I’m OK with that. But you started insulting me for no reason
What the hell happened? .did my comment hurt you or some one you love?
I don’t care about him enough to go see if all the drama is justified, so I’m not going to. I just said what I thought, and without pretending to know it all.
If only those who are up to date in his drama are allowed to say anything, then you only hear the crybaby fanboys, because nobody else cares
Yeah it’s strange why more people don’t just give into corporate greed and losing ownership of their channels when they discuss potential (obvious) corruption.
Upsetting that they would react in a negative way!
Ive also only seen a few videos of his over the last few years but it seems like he’s recently had some wildly successful videos based off exposing corruption in the PC/tech industry and has morphed his channel from tech reviews to some sort of investigative journalism chasing that high he got from said viral videos.
Uh. Good for him
He goes into detail on some of the videos, but to summarize the “controversial” videos due less well when it comes to recouping the money it takes to film them (if at all). They (often):
The only high he's chasing is a money one. Controversy brings clicks.
Chasing the high? You think that is why he does that? Sit down and think …THINK what you just said … according to you his motivation is some junky high chase?
Is that supposed to be a abd thing?
While I appreciate a lot of the stuff that Gamers Nexus does, Steve is so, so insufferable.
How is his channel going to be deleted? They appealed the take down and YouTube will reinstate the video in a matter of 10 days if Bloomberg failed to produce proof that he used their copy right shit. I’m actually genuinely asking because I watched the whole video and Steve didn’t say anything about their channel being deleted.
Bloomberg has 10 days to file for lawsuit against Gamers Nexus. If they do, the take down stands, and it’s a strike until Gamers Nexus may win the case. Which will be expensive.
“small.”
Make no mistake. Gamers Nexus is a multi million dollar company.
Sure, Bloomberg is much, much bigger. But while gamers Nexus is the underdog, it’s not the toothless underdog. That little fucker will bite in bloomberg’s ankles before it dies and tbf: it looks like it’s already yapping and took it’s first bite.
How is his channel going to be deleted?
It’s clickbait.
3 dmca/copyright strikes on a channel and yt deletes you. It was mentioned near the beginning of the video.
I would assume its in reference to the section of the video quoting YouTube’s policies that channels can be removed after 3 copyright strikes. Bloomberg has 10 days to appeal to YouTube and keep the strike active
I sympathize with Steve and how he is, and how he goes about explaining things. And the style of making sharp points.
But he’s also flawed, and knows how to play the content game. This is nearly just clickbait. And they flew across the country in service of his style of rhetoric.
I honestly wish more people with audiences were just as pedantic and critical as he is. But he also has his own set of biases in the computer landscape. He is still a Gamer after all.
I love that he responded to their takedown request by releasing an entire video about Bloomberg and their shitfuckery.
Yeah I was about 1.5 hours in.
Time to move to nebula? :)
How about Floatplane /s
Nebula is a shithole, just have a glance at their privacy policy.
Floatplane would be ideal but I think he burned that bridge.
PeerTube is probably his best bet.
I don't want to see his channel deleted but I'm also VERY interested in what would take place in the aftermath...
Or better yet PeerTube.
Oh no, no more YouTube tech drama
It's not YouTube drama, it's international trade drama.
On one hand, yes. Totally. Just like the Roblox vigilante stuff and the SKG stuff, etc.
But this video and those examples are connected to larger systemic issues in the world and in the tech industry. It’s not just YouTuber beefs or relationship drama.
I would like to see more content relating to the last interview in the video with Mr. Pigeon. Truly think he has great arguments that need further airtime
Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Sure, then post it on peertube.