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• finitebanjo@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think a more nuanced answer is better: "Only if you believe mammals and fish are not mutually exclusive."

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I think the even more nuanced answer is that “fish” is not a scientific category so comparing it to mammals makes no sense.

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    • Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Got it , got it… writes in margin

      Ichthyology ≠ Science

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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    • finitebanjo@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I'm flattered, honestly, that guy is my favorite treefucker.

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  • recklessengagement@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Humans are fish

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    • i_love_FFT@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Humans living under the sea are fish.

      Like people in Netherlands.

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• negativenull@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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  or something, I'm not a biologist

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Continuing a long proud tradition of “midwit” memes being made exclusively by people who think they’re the 145 IQ guy, but are actually the the 55 IQ guy.

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• NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Whales aren’t fish, they’re whales. There is no such thing as a fish.

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  • FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nonsense, we’re all fish

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    • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I don’t know how many times I have to say this, I AM NOT A FISH! I am a regular tasty human, and frankly I’m growing real tired of these targeted attacks. You people are ridiculous. I won’t swi-STAND! I won’t stand for this!

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    • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m a fish, you’re a fish, OP is a fish, are there any other fish I should know about?

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  • Hagdos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Whaddayamean there’s no such thing as a fish? I just ate one!

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• azi@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Broke: Whales are fish because they look like other fish Woke: Whales aren’t fish because they’re in the class Mammalia, not Pisces Bespoke: Whales are fish any monophyletic group that encompasses all the fishes must also include the clade Tetrapoda Artichoke: Whales aren’t fish because fishes are a paraphyletic group that includes the entire clade Vertebrata at the exclusion of the clade Tetrapoda. Stick and Poke: Whales are fish because they’ve developed the same bodyplan and are in the same ecological niche as the pelagic fishes.

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  • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Tadpoles are fish too, right?

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• lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  they’re a berry i think

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes but only when culinary, this is why it's okay for vegans to eat whale.

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  • Mist101@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This tracks, berries keep their seeds on the inside. Whales are bananas and vice versa.

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• TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  all are fish i dont care

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  • beejboytyson@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ah that’s the spirit!!!

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• StrongHorseWeakNeigh@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Look all I'm saying is Hank Green agrees with me that whales are fish.

  https://youtu.be/-C3lR3pczjo?si=mbgIkIDQPcpp44dV

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  • teft@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hank Green is great but good god the adhd runs strong in that one. Watch some of his vlogbrothers videos and count the number of cuts. It's like watching Liam Neeson jump a fence.

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    • StrongHorseWeakNeigh@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Maybe that's why I like him so much lol

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    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      As one of the horde of neurodivergent folks that love Hank’s content, Ikind of need it this way. Chris Boden is another one. Long, still, static shots, just punch me right in the attention span and are hard to get through. It takes way more effort than the occasional jump-cut to pull off.

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  whales are fish because they successfully went back to the ocean and i’m jealous

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• BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You can’t fool me. I’ve read Moby Dick and Melville dedicated an entire chapter about how whales are absolutely fish

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• hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Cladistically speaking, whales are just a big colony of eukaryotic clones.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tru

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• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I know a doctor of marine biology who disagrees with your assessment.

  Everyone that doesn’t revel in their fishness is a coward or worse, a creationist.

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  • stray@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I don’t know how anyone could read Moby Dick and not come away convinced of their obvious fishness. Surely one’s nature and behavior are more important than one’s reproductive organs.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Whales are mammals. How is the dude on the right even being pedantic and not just outright dumb?

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  • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “Fish” isn’t a real type of animal, it’s a term of convenience for similar looking/acting things that humans have lumped together.

    Its taking that back to the medieval level of “whales are fish”… Which ignores that key difference of them breathing air and not having gills.

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    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Calling something a fish is like calling something a tree.

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  • chaos@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There isn’t a simple evolutionary definition of “fish”, not the same way there is for, say, mammals. If you found the common ancestor of everything we call a mammal and said “everything descended from this one is also a mammal”, you’d be correct. If you did that for everything we call fish, every animal in the world would be a fish. Also, we decided which animals were fish mostly on vibes, so without a clear definition you can pedantically argue that everything is a fish including mammals.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That’s not quite true. A lot of worms, for example, wouldn’t be fish, but all fish would be worms. Most invertibrates also wouldn’t be fish.

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  • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Mammals are fish

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Isn’t that only if they are born between February 19th and March 20th? 🤔

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• Derpenheim@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “BuT thEy aRe iN ThE sAmE tReE oN thE fUnnY ChArT!!!1!!1”

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  • stevedice@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    pHyLoGeNeTiCaLlY

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• huf@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  people who fish have also always known that whales are fish. not sure about the welsh though, that seems iffy.

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• stevedice@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  No, but seriously, why did this become so common? It seems like the internet learnt a new word and is just rolling with it.

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  • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well, yea that. I know Hank Green likes to bring it up and he’s popular, and it’s come up with a bunch of other content creators, too. It’s fun, technically true, and enough people don’t know it yet so it’s great to bring up in the real world.

    Plus it’s super cool to explain how our eyes are built for the ocean and they had to get a special lens on top to fix it. Or how we carry the sea with us in the form of all this salty water. Or the whole swimbladder/lungs/guts thing relationship I mean they’re all quite fun, really.

    I also like explaining that octopuses are molluscs and, because we say that molluscs have one “foot”, it’d be more appropriate to say that octopuses are really just going around the world with eight funky toes and not eight arms.

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    • Netux@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Didn’t know that octopus came from the molluscs branch. Even more surprising that they at a smart as they are.

      Never gave any thought to were they branched off, but them being advanced slugs is crazy.

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I get the impression from the other comments that a popular YouTuber made a recent video about it, where I’m guessing he tried to be a smartass about some of the implications of “fish” being ambiguously defined, and a bunch of his more credulous viewers have got the wrong end of the stick and ran with it?

    I mainly know the idea from an old QI episode that explained it as “there’s no such thing, biologically speaking”, which in turn became the title of the show’s researchers’ long-running podcast “No Such Thing As A Fish”.

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• BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If you’re gonna be a lumper you might as well go all the way

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Generally not but some like the Whaleshark can be confused with one.

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  • Triasha@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sharks aren’t fish. Humans and all other terrestrial mammals are.

    Hank Green explained it.

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    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sharks are fish too, if you want to include them.

      But you can’t exclude the terrestrial vertebrates however you slice it.

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