It blows my mind that so many devs did not see this coming the moment Microsoft bought it. I was waiting for this to happen the moment I found out about the acquisition.
GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
Submitted 18 hours ago by zaphod@sopuli.xyz to technology@lemmy.world
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jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I’m only surprised it took this long.
Squiddork@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Pretty sure I had Embrace Extend Extinguish as my ‘status’ when microsoft inevitably introduced that linkedin style social media bullshit to a git server.
Plenty of good alternatives out there, or roll your own!
PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Use Codeberg, or self-host Forgejo
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I stopped sending updates to it and host my own gitlab now.
won’t ever look back.
marlowe221@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The real question is…. WHY DOES AZURE DEVOPS STILL EXIST?!?!?
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
GitHub is finally dead.
Sxan@piefed.zip 17 hours ago
It was dead when MS bought it. Software developers aren't immune to denial.
medem@lemmy.wtf 16 hours ago
People not realising (or not caring enough about) the irony that more than 80% of open source projects are hosted in a platform which is a) not open source and b) owned by M$ has always been a mistery to me.
chunes@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Microsoft buying Github is the best example of the fox guarding the hen house that exists. Even better than an ad company making a web browser.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 16 hours ago
It was braindead when MS bought it and kept artificially alive.
mitch@piefed.mitch.science 14 hours ago
the mergers & acquisitions leviathan eats yet another beautiful thing, just like it ate my precious linode.
tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 17 hours ago
Microsoft 365 Copilot CodeShare Professional
iii@mander.xyz 17 hours ago
Finally we can do collaborative coding in powerpoint, put it on sharepoint, and have copilot link it to issues in teams.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I didn’t have many but I’m pulling all my repos from GitHub.
seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
Still a zombie tho, and its gonna be for a long time, as long as it stays relevant
sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
shit, whats this going to mean for repos like massgrave? will microsoft enforce shitty policies against DIY software that’s published there if it violates somebody’s terms of use?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 15 minutes ago
For posterity: archive.softwareheritage.org
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
I’m finding this kind of Pikachu surprised face meme worthy, really.
We all know and knew that GitHub is Microsoft’s. We all know that Microsoft is fucking evil, yet everyone and their mother have their main repo management with GitHub.
W.T.F.
what did you expect would happen, sooner rather than later?
Well technically nothing has happened yet, but you can imagine the fun that is coming
iglou@programming.dev 2 hours ago
I honestly don’t understand ehy Github hasn’t been abandonned by users at this point. If I were a company, I’d either go to the competition, who is just as good if not better, or host in-house if the means are there.
I’m just a freelancer and I gave up on github 3 years ago
sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
woah. I really didn’t know. I guess in that case it’s also strange it didn’t happen sooner
turdburglar@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
i’m having these same feelings about my youtube channel. they tell me i’m paranoid…
‘what, you think youtube is gonna go down?’
it’s not that i think it’s gonna go down, but it’s that nothing gold can stay. i gotta get some eggs in a different basket.
finix_the_psyker@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
Just move to codeberg or a similar site.
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Everything M$ touches dies. What a fucking shocker.
witten@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Now if only they could work that magic on ICE and IDF. (They are in bed with both.)
scout10290@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Dies or gets hacked. They’re such a shit company.
Gsus4@mander.xyz 9 hours ago
So they’re just going to use GitHub as a code training dataset? Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
phirdowak@programming.dev 17 hours ago
Are we moving to Codeberg now?
mesamunefire@piefed.social 17 hours ago
Or your own server. But yeah this is not so good for the rest of us. They are doubling down on AI.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won’t get the “drive by” contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 hours ago
There’s plenty alternatives.
- Sourcehut sr.ht (possibly other instances)
- Various gitlab instances, e.g. framagit.org
- not to mention git’s own web ui which runs under so many domains; some of them might even be open to signups.
ronigami@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Unfortunately none has quite as good of a search engine. Do any actually have social features like friends and feeds?
mintiefresh@piefed.ca 17 hours ago
I would like to but I do want some private repos.
Maybe self hosting is the best move from here on in.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
A forge like Codeberg is great for collaboration, but if you mean private as in just-for-yourself, pushing to a bare repo on just about anything will get it done. No need for a software forge. If you already sync files somehow, like some dropbox equivelant, put bare repos on there and push/pull from there. That said, forgejo is very easy to self-host and the identical UI to Codeberg.
Feyd@programming.dev 17 hours ago
Private repos, if you don’t need a forge, can easily be pushed to a VPS with ssh
sbv@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Doesn’t Codeberg have private repos? I could’ve sworn I’ve created one.
josefo@leminal.space 8 hours ago
This is the most infuriating, heartbreaking and lame thing ever. AI bros are just a bunch of losers ruining stuff for everyone.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
crypto bros == AI bros
always have been ruining shit for everyone else.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
They’re all avatars of nvidia which themselves are avatar of TSMC and the silicon chip manufacturing industry. There are underlying technological current are driving cultural movement … Oh no “Culture is downstream from technology” that is the most cyberpunk thing I’ve ever heard
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
And the unfortunate part is that crypto and LLMs are cool tech, but the bros completely ruin them.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
and so begins the enshitification
ripcord@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
That had already started.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 10 hours ago
and so the enshitification continues
LOLjoeWTF@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
How has GitHub been enshittified? It’s a genuine question, because I’ve thought Microsoft has been a pretty good steward of it until now.
iglou@programming.dev 10 hours ago
… Was it ever since they got bought?
lime360@kbin.earth 17 hours ago
i don't think being owned by a shitty billionare company counts as independent
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 17 hours ago
I believe that's probably why they specify in the headline "at Microsoft" rather than just "independent."
You can have an independent division within a company that doesn't get orders from the company's main CEO, or you can have it be fully under that person's oversight. It used to be a separate division with its own management, now it's not, thus it's no longer internally independent.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Mauve différence when you have an executive team that can say no.
Now that the No guys are out, MS CoreAI team can do whatever the fuck they want.
I should have deleted my data earlier.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 12 hours ago
I’m just waiting for Forgejo federation to be a thing, and some sort of definitive website for discovering projects. Right now, even though I do have my slefhosted forgejo instance, I still need to keep my code on GitHub, or no-one else will ever find it.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 11 hours ago
I’m using gitea - why u guys use forgejo again?
snusnu@lemmynsfw.com 11 hours ago
I don’t remember the details, but something happened to the Gitea ownership structure without warning, and people were upset about it.
As an actual differentiator: Forgejo has an LTS version that which gets support for 1 year. Normal versions only get supported until the next major release (every few months).
Gitea to my knowledge doesn’t have any LTS.
dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I just half went down this rabbit hole, I’m thinking forgejo is the best option (for me) because:
- they dogfood (they actually use their own product, on the other hand gitea uses github and github actions). This makes me feel more confident in forgejo.
- is not “owned” by a for-profit entity that could change course in the future, creating a big hassle for me down the line if I need to swap to something else for whatever enshitified reason (since forgejo is no longer compatible with gitea).
- forgejo seems to be more at-the-ready for finding and fixing security vulnerabilities in their own app (as proclaimed on their site).
- future possibility for federation (gitea is not planning this according to forgejo site).
Forgejo explaining the differences: forgejo.org/compare-to-gitea/
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 7 hours ago
All the reasons that others mentioned, plus it sound cool.
reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
The ensh*tification continues. Time for community git to somehow be federated like lemmy.
Some sort of encrypted collective sharing of the whole through BitTorrent style shared hosting.
I would seriously consider donating a few TB space and half my bandwidth to that.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Git has always been decentralized. That was one of its purposes. Sites like GitHub, Gitlab, etc actually went against the grain and centralized them; I personally believe this helped popularize git back in the days of CVS and Subversion being the two most popular version control systems.
Git patches were made to be email friendly as a means of distributing code between developers — it’s how the Linux kernel does it (or did, I’m not up to date on their current practices).
Pamasich@kbin.earth 17 hours ago
Time for community git to somehow be federated like lemmy.
Already being worked on for a while. It's called ForgeFed and being developed by Forgejo (the software powering codeberg). It's an extension to the ActivityPub protocol, which is also powering the fediverse.
reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
Thanks for this! I’ll check it out.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 16 hours ago
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 hours ago
If you don’t mind using a platform funded by crypto
rozodru@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Didn’t this clown literally say like lastweek that if you’re a dev and you’re not using AI to get out? well…he’s out and look what happens.
Move to Codeberg, donate to them, or self host your git repos.
josefo@leminal.space 8 hours ago
I’m in the process of moving mine to self host, I’ll put a guide with the steps I’m following so others can follow them. It’s really good that git basically provides the thing out of the box. This is ok for most of my use cases which are private repos, or shared with small groups of friends. For public projects, I think we still need a way for projects to be easily found, like a directory. Sadly GitHub filled that space, it was ubiquitous. Not even gitlab or bitbucket approached the massive adoption github has. Even some fediverse version of it would probably have a hard time being that massive.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
So long and thanks for all the fish indeed
And, which is the real Copilot now? Fuck MS and their terrible terrible naming.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Side note, now that GH is in Microsoft “CoreAI” it just feels even more gross than before.
My data is front and foremost the product.
I’ve been self hosting forgejo for a few months and it’s pretty nice plus low maintenance. It does all the stuff I care about. I might have to just make a public instance and figure out how federation works or join codeberg or something.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
Here we go…all the grayware GitHub projects are going to be culled
kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Man, I just got my personal website running on GitHub pages last week, and I’m too broke to host it elsewhere and too lazy to host it myself
StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Cloudflare supports same pages and for free
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
and it’s arguably better of a service. CF supports private repo page for free.
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
There’s quite a few places that you can host a simple site for free.
Plus, linode’s cheapest Nanode option is $5 bucks a month, you could spin up a very minimal LAMP stack on that.
nagaram@startrek.website 8 hours ago
Ya wanna host it on my forgejo instance?
I’m about to move it to a kubenetes cluster once my parts come in.
loveknight@programming.dev 17 hours ago
We’ve been warned. (And unsurprisingly, Roy Schestowitz is being bomarbed by Microsofters with a chain of SLAPP suits.)
Mwa@thelemmy.club 13 hours ago
Can’t wait for the extra Product Decay
JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
I would not hold my breath considering that GH was already supposed to die in 2018 and we are still predicting its imminent end in 2025.
sexy_peach@feddit.org 17 hours ago
Lol they’re going to integrate it into their business software slop that nobody cool uses
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I wonder how Nixos feels about this
OnfireNFS@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I’m running a self hosted Gitlab instance right now but thinking of switching to Forgejo. Anyone tried both and have thoughts on each?
9point6@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I mean, it’s clearly not really been independent for a good while now
portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Soft serve by charm.sh is also fun to use. If you’re a CLI junkie.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 hours ago
As someone who moved out of there before they got taken over by MS: Told you so. I mean it’s been gradual but constant enshittification since then.
BTW, is it just me or is the “at” in the headline wrong?
dotdi@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Hot damn is my self-hosted Forgejo hot right now.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
Don't just move to Codeberg; donate to them too.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
Codeberg has a lot of restrictions regarding private repositories and… complicated verbiage regarding what licenses they want for public repositories.
For public repositories… do you think that MS et al can’t already scrape all of that?
I am all for telling MS to go fuck themselves. But it is important people actually understand what they are and aren’t getting in terms of privacy and the like. It is like how people still sometimes pretend that the completely open site where just about anyone can run an instance has LESS ai scraping than a reddit.
GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
The key point about codeberg as I understand it is it’s meant for foss projects. It’s not really much more complex than that. Want to host non-free software, or want to use it for your company’s private code repository? They don’t want that on their servers, so either find an alternative or self-host forgejo, which is the same code (derived from gitea) that powers codeberg itself.
mitch@piefed.mitch.science 14 hours ago
i just wanted to drop my personal favorite self-hosted git alternative, Gogs (gogs.io). i have very modest git needs (i just need a place to host code and interact with the
gitclient), and i think it fits the bill well.i am not associated with it at all, i just want folks to know that self-hosting your own git service has really never been easier or better. there are so many good options, like a similar project, gitea.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 14 hours ago
gog is nice. I like forgejo myself as its dead simple to get set up. But yeah both are really nice.