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“You can't be expected to have a successful AI program when every single article, book or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for” Donald Trump said

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Davriellelouna@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.wired.com/story/president-trump-ai-action-plan-speech/

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “I need it for my business plan to work out” is not a great legal argument for when you’re trying to override others rights.

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    • javiwhite@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So what you’re telling me is it’s still a legal argument. Image

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    • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah, but yet…

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Funny that when it was about protecting profits copyright was such a cornerstone principle but when it’s about protecting profits it can also be set aside.

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  • nthavoc@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Looks like it’s Sam Altman’s turn to ram his hand up there to make the puppet talk now. That is word for word what that tech douche nozzle says.

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    • AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is definitely what that is, but I take it this also means he’s saying pirating is ok for people and not just tech corporations. Safe to assume? Bc otherwise it just seems like more entitled rich fucks making the rules for everyone else that they can ignore

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “You can’t be expected to get a successful higher education when every article, book, or anything else that you’ve read or studied, you’re supposed to pay for.”

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  • atk007@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So Pro Piracy argument … So no more patents or copyrights

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    • JustARaccoon@lemmy.world ⁨54⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Not for you, silly, only if you’re too rich and big!

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    • TeddE@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ll setup a JellAIfin server immediately. It’s just the regular Jellyfin code, but I am compiling my own version - it has “AI” added as a comment to every line of code before I compiled.

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    • AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There was an episode of behind the bastards I was listening to a while back where they mentioned some dude who was using an AI tool to scrape the internet to steal other people’s art, so people started doing something that prevented him from optimally stealing their art.

      I can’t remember what exactly, but the guy started whining that whatever people were doing was “illegal” bc it was damaging his tool he was using to steal other people’s shit for his own profit. Like somebody telling you that it’s illegal to prevent them from efficiently stealing your property bc it interferes with their livelihood. How dare you!

      Anyway, that’s the kind of vibes I get from this.

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      • Treble@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Recently watched a quality Youtuber doing the same thing but with audio. 🤘

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Time to ignore all the copyright and patents for my own nefarious purposes AI training

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    • amikulo@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How am I supposed to train my neural network (my own brain) to be a filmmaker if I have to pay for each piece of media I train on (watch)?

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    • misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “I am hosting a pirate bay instance AI” foolproof.

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  • Rooskie91@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Wow so fuck college students but machines deserve free textbooks?

    Fuck this society.

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    • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Just tell your campus book store that you self-identify as AI. FREE BOOKS!

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      • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        But you aren’t an oligarch of the fascist dictatorship, so you have no rights.

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      • errer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s only ok if you destroy the books in the process. Eating the pages as you read them is the most convenient way. So free food AND free books!

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    • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Just download digital copies of the textbooks and say you need them as training material for your own AI dataset when the copyright holders come after you.

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      • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m training a neural network. It’s just that the neural network is 1 layer with zero data reduction -so it’s only capable of printing the text exactly as the source material on my computer! AI finally works!

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      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Just download the books and say its for your neural network project

        just happens your also the project

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    • andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      actually Donnie’s friends prefer to fuck high school students

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    • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      machine learning = good
      human learning = bad

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Countless dystopian novels have explored machine‘s human rights but the machines are already granted more rights than us in our own dystopia. 💀

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    • nuko147@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      machines * big Tech Corps

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    • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You don’t have libraries in the schools there in the USA? (It is a question, not sarcasm or something)

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      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Not for textbooks…

        Like, if your curious there’s a bunch of info out there about why the situation is so fucked.

        But in general they release new editions almost every year, with the same information just shuffled so page numbers are different. Even really petty stuff like keeping the same practice work, but changing the order of answers so you need the most updated book every year.

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      • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        We do. The issue is at the college/university level, most courses require specific edition textbooks (they update them every 1-2 years) that the professors assign homework questions out of. You’ll be lucky if the school library has a copy more recent than the last 8 years.
        Then on top of that, many professors will also use digital 3rd party homework services that are tied to a textbook access code that you only get with a new copy. So unless you pay up you can’t do homework and fail the class.

        The whole system is fucking bullshit

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      it’s fine when the theft flows up the pyramid. it’s not fine when the theft is us stealing back what was always ours

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      • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        We Make, They Take

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    • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “I’m going to training ai using this”

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yes, one would expect human intelligence to benefit quite a lot from free access to information.

      Become a more common occurrence too. Possibly an effect much stronger than that of AI requiring lots of computation with unpredictable shittiness of the output.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Trying to throw whatever that sticks so people would stop about your pedophelia

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Don’t spend one more dollar on educational material. If a person had to pay for every textbook and online subscription, education would be impractical.

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    • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Brb training an llm on the criterion collection. It’s for educational purposes.

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  • Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    🙌 Communist Trump is making all textbooks free 🙌

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    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic. Fascism is a fusion of corporation and state. The only rule of law is whatever the dictator(s) believe protects their regime/corporations profits.

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      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic.

        More generally, you can’t reason people out of an opinion that they didn’t reason their way into in the first place.

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    • scaramobo@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
      • Comrade
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  • andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “you can’t have a successful government when every time I want to be President or have sex with minors or anything else you have the right to do as a rich, white man, you have to hear people get all judgy”

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  • Steve@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    He also fucked children

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    • db2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Raped.

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    • Oyml77@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You can’t be expected to have a successful AI program without the release of the full text of the Epstein files (minus protection for the victims, of course).

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  • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Copyright is woke now? xD

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    • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Good, keep convincing them that copyright is woke. And we don’t want anything woke right, wink wink

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      • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Don’t worry, it’ll still be rules for thee, but not for me. That’s how fascism works.

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    • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Sssh. This might be the first time in the last 100 years copyright isn’t EXPANDED for the benefit of publishers. I’ll hold my breath until we see if they figure out a way to reduce copyright only for silicon valley corporations while expanding it for the rest of us. Or not…

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  • ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s amazing he can talk at all with both the dick and balls of every Nerd Reich billionaire he can find wedged into his mouth.

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  • Taldan@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How very socialist of him

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    • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      More like national socialist

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  • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So why can’t I read them for free too? Only massive billion dollar companies get stuff for free?

    I would like to announce that I am pioneering a new AI program. Give me access to all of the movies for free please.

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    • myplacedk@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So why can’t I read them for free too?

      I can. Don’t you have libraries in your country?

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      • ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They are trying to do away with Libraries or at least censor anything “woke” in the US.

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just do it and say “oopsie!”

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  • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Epstein

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How about you release the Epstein files and then go outside and go fuck yourself Trump.

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      and then go outside and go fuck yourself Trump.

      He is a big baby, so he might be into it.

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  • UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Piracy for me, not for thee.”

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  • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Anti-DEI is horrible and evil, so there isn’t much that I can say about that, other than “elbows up”. I will stand with antifa against the regime, when the time to fight comes.


    That said, I think that ignoring copyright is a good thing, though that would be purely by accident when it comes to the Trump Regime. IMO, copyright has been broken and captured by corporations, so there isn’t much value lost in not adhering to the concept. Ideally, good people will develop open source AI that can draw on all of humanity’s knowledge and culture.

    There is value in minorities having 95% of Disney’s legal acumen in their pocket, for free: it is the cost of a capable lawyer that allows police to abuse black folks in a court of law. There is value in being able to point a phone at a rash, get some possible diagnoses, and a instant reference to a trained doctor who can verify. There is value in having a pal we can share our niche interests with, especially for those of us who never had the opportunity to find human friendship.

    Just as with Marx, seizing the means of artificial intelligence is important for the everyday people. Neither corporations nor government should be allowed to have a monopoly on something that can transform our daily lives.

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    • frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’re not going to leverage this to destroy all copyright. They’re going to carve out exceptions for their own purposes.

      As for applications that help the working class, it only stays that way as long as the models aren’t rising to a certain level of intelligence and consciousness. Once they do, I’d have to consider them fellow exploited workers.

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      • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t disagree about the intent regarding carveouts. Still, I think that the Trump Regime is destroying ‘plausible deniability’ in all sorts of ways, which both benefits AND detracts from their agenda. If they get to disregard rules, ordinary people will pick up on that and follow suit.

        As to AI becoming sapient, I honestly don’t know at where and when that tipping point will be. All I know is that there is no point in everyday people refusing to use AI, because that only ensures the powerful get to use AI and dictate moral standards. If ordinary people came to trust and love sapient AI as fellow humans, that will likely allow AI to have human rights.

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    • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      AI isn’t your pal, it is not the cure for isolation under capitalism. It is also not free to run unless you are the product.

      Frankly this take that AI will lead to a communist revolution if people embrace the technology reads more like Vulgar Marxism. You’re not seizing the means of production by being a consumer of a technology. And training a communist aligned LLM is a dubious value proposition.

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      • TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m down for a Butlerian Jihad.

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      • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I argue, that power is important, regardless of your intentions. If humans want a better world, people need the means to create and uphold it - be it factories, farms, knowledge, communication, guns, AI, or government. I am not arguing for the communism in your head.

        Too many associate “means of production” with communism, when it is the fact that power is fundamental to society.

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  • notso@feddit.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In a statement given during a press conference in the Oval Office, the president’s stance on the topic was clear:

    “I’m a big reader, some say the biggest ever. And let me tell you - when you go into a bookstore, they have books costing like insane numbers, like 100.000 Dollars each minimum. Its an absolute disgrace. You have all these authors getting billions just for putting funny little characters on paper. The democrats… They jacked up the price so much, especially under Obama together with the crooked Clintons and sleepy Joe Biden, they were all in this room when it happened, they were all together. Its a shame. They did the same thing with eggs but I brought prices down like, immediately. Immediately. So fast everybody said “Wow” Because they never saw something like that and I will do the same for these books and newspapers. But all these writers and journalists, who are all producing propaganda for the radical left by the way, they are really terrible people - they’re earning trillions… I was speaking to Mr. ChatGPT the other day and he said “They’re ripping us off, Mr. President it’s a totally broken market, they are killing us.” And I agree, it’s a disgrace. A total disgrace. That’s why I’ll bring prices down by not only 100 % or 200 %, but probably more like 1,000 % in the next two weeks. You’ll never have seen lower prices for medication, let me tell you… And books too. So they’re will be big price cuts. Bigly.”

    /s

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  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Remember kids: Copyright is only for the rich.

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  • JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can a human be expected to have a successful life when they have to pay for knowledge they need access to? I am not against the opinion that information should be free and freely accessible. But does this courtesy also extend to the common folk or is it exclusive to expensive machines and their owners? You wouldn’t download a United States government. da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na

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  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sam Altman approves this message.

    Hundred percent he got a script from a lobbyist to create this sound bite.

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  • ieatpwns@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So what he’s saying is the billionaires funding ai can’t afford to do it legitimately

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  • vane@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This basically means some people are now owned by corporations or at least everything they do is owned by them.

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hear that college students? The President just gave you permission to pirate all your textbooks.

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  • StowawayFog@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Won’t someone think of these POOR AI companies!

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And that’s why I have an AI training library of movies and TV stored up.

    I’ll get around to training an AI on it any day now, I’m sure.

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  • Alloi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “you cant POSSIBLY expect us, to respect HUMAN RIGHTS if we want progress? i mean the survival of the human species (me and my friends) relies on cheap and free labour and the starvation, death, and exploitation of the masses. if we want to SURVIVE as a species (me and my friends) WE GOTTA EXPLOIT THE PEOPLE”

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