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“You can't be expected to have a successful AI program when every single article, book or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for” Donald Trump said

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Davriellelouna@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.wired.com/story/president-trump-ai-action-plan-speech/

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  • Rooskie91@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wow so fuck college students but machines deserve free textbooks?

    Fuck this society.

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    • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just tell your campus book store that you self-identify as AI. FREE BOOKS!

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      • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But you aren’t an oligarch of the fascist dictatorship, so you have no rights.

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      • errer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s only ok if you destroy the books in the process. Eating the pages as you read them is the most convenient way. So free food AND free books!

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    • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just download digital copies of the textbooks and say you need them as training material for your own AI dataset when the copyright holders come after you.

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      • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m training a neural network. It’s just that the neural network is 1 layer with zero data reduction -so it’s only capable of printing the text exactly as the source material on my computer! AI finally works!

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      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Just download the books and say its for your neural network project

        just happens your also the project

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    • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      machine learning = good
      human learning = bad

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Countless dystopian novels have explored machine‘s human rights but the machines are already granted more rights than us in our own dystopia. 💀

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    • nuko147@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      machines * big Tech Corps

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    • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You don’t have libraries in the schools there in the USA? (It is a question, not sarcasm or something)

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      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not for textbooks…

        Like, if your curious there’s a bunch of info out there about why the situation is so fucked.

        But in general they release new editions almost every year, with the same information just shuffled so page numbers are different. Even really petty stuff like keeping the same practice work, but changing the order of answers so you need the most updated book every year.

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      • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We do. The issue is at the college/university level, most courses require specific edition textbooks (they update them every 1-2 years) that the professors assign homework questions out of. You’ll be lucky if the school library has a copy more recent than the last 8 years.
        Then on top of that, many professors will also use digital 3rd party homework services that are tied to a textbook access code that you only get with a new copy. So unless you pay up you can’t do homework and fail the class.

        The whole system is fucking bullshit

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      it’s fine when the theft flows up the pyramid. it’s not fine when the theft is us stealing back what was always ours

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      • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        We Make, They Take

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    • andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      actually Donnie’s friends prefer to fuck high school students

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    • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “I’m going to training ai using this”

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, one would expect human intelligence to benefit quite a lot from free access to information.

      Become a more common occurrence too. Possibly an effect much stronger than that of AI requiring lots of computation with unpredictable shittiness of the output.

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  • Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    🙌 Communist Trump is making all textbooks free 🙌

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    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic. Fascism is a fusion of corporation and state. The only rule of law is whatever the dictator(s) believe protects their regime/corporations profits.

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      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic.

        More generally, you can’t reason people out of an opinion that they didn’t reason their way into in the first place.

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    • scaramobo@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
      • Comrade
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  • Steve@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He also fucked children

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    • db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Raped.

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    • Oyml77@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can’t be expected to have a successful AI program without the release of the full text of the Epstein files (minus protection for the victims, of course).

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  • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Copyright is woke now? xD

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    • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Good, keep convincing them that copyright is woke. And we don’t want anything woke right, wink wink

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      • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Don’t worry, it’ll still be rules for thee, but not for me. That’s how fascism works.

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    • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sssh. This might be the first time in the last 100 years copyright isn’t EXPANDED for the benefit of publishers. I’ll hold my breath until we see if they figure out a way to reduce copyright only for silicon valley corporations while expanding it for the rest of us. Or not…

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    • aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If only he were capable of being so consistent. He thinks what people pay him to think.

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  • ieatpwns@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So what he’s saying is the billionaires funding ai can’t afford to do it legitimately

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    • Sturgist@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Of course not! If they did then they’d be several fractions of a billion less wealthy!

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  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Remember kids: Copyright is only for the rich.

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    • americanzgenozida@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For the poor? the rich dont pay copyright, only grandma who downloaded nothing else matter’s mp3

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      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Copyright means a legal protection showing you own your own works: words written, audio recorded, and artwork created.

        Poor people apparently don’t get that.

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      • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s weird spunding, but they mean copyright fines.

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  • fraksken@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So, hypothetically speaking, if I pirate a bunch of stuff and I get caught, I can claim I used it to train an AI model and all charges are dropped? (According to his statement, not current applicable laws)

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    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I needed to pirate that extensive game, movie, and porn library to train a gaming, movie, and porn recomendation model

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    • bcgm3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Of course not, the rules are for thee.

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    • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Theres a common misconception that downloading data is illegal when it’s generally sharing is what gets you in trouble. There are very few people who get fined for piracy downloads around the world.

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      • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I believe it’s mostly illegal for both parties, but in practice less often enforced for the downloading party, as this enforcement would require too much resources for the enforcing side.

        To give concrete examples, downloading pirated material is illegal in both the U.S and in Sweden, and afaik the latter is on par with the rest of the EU.

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      • fraksken@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But … Sharing is Caring … Gotta keep that ratio above 20!

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  • Taldan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How very socialist of him

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    • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      More like national socialist

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  • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So why can’t I read them for free too? Only massive billion dollar companies get stuff for free?

    I would like to announce that I am pioneering a new AI program. Give me access to all of the movies for free please.

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just do it and say “oopsie!”

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    • myplacedk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So why can’t I read them for free too?

      I can. Don’t you have libraries in your country?

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      • ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They are trying to do away with Libraries or at least censor anything “woke” in the US.

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How about you release the Epstein files and then go outside and go fuck yourself Trump.

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      and then go outside and go fuck yourself Trump.

      He is a big baby, so he might be into it.

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    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He’s not a barely pubescent girl, he won’t fuck himself.

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yep when Napster just linked people who shared files between them, it was the end of the world. So it’s fine when it’s bigtech / AI?

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, there are people who want to have authority and think that if they got to the very top - Google, Meta, whatever, or some government, - then their ideas about authority have become law.

      In fact, of course, they are just jerks who’ll drop the soap at every step in prison for the rest of their lives when the problem is finally rectified, and it’s being slowly rectified.

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      • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What are you talking about? Things seem to be rapidly deteriorating to me. There are no problems being rectified.

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    • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My thoughts exactly. You can’t expect to have a successful file sharing system if you have to get permission for everything you distribute, you guys!

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      • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well, there are some very successful file sharing systems. That horse did bolt with Napster.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And that’s why I have an AI training library of movies and TV stored up.

    I’ll get around to training an AI on it any day now, I’m sure.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve already started training my AI. My Actual Intelligence.

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hear that college students? The President just gave you permission to pirate all your textbooks.

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    • hasnep@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But only if you say you’re using them to train an AI

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “I need it for my business plan to work out” is not a great legal argument for when you’re trying to override others rights.

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “You can’t be expected to get a successful higher education when every article, book, or anything else that you’ve read or studied, you’re supposed to pay for.”

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  • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Settle down, nerds. TACO just read from the card they gave him. He doesn’t think anything about AI. Of course, he’ll make the wrong decisions and cause utter chaos and strife but it’s not like he has an actual opinion about AI.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Trying to throw whatever that sticks so people would stop about your pedophelia

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  • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We shouldn’t be calling these AI programs successful. In the slightest. They’re counterfeiting human thought and work.

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  • JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can a human be expected to have a successful life when they have to pay for knowledge they need access to? I am not against the opinion that information should be free and freely accessible. But does this courtesy also extend to the common folk or is it exclusive to expensive machines and their owners? You wouldn’t download a United States government. da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Funny that when it was about protecting profits copyright was such a cornerstone principle but when it’s about protecting profits it can also be set aside.

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  • StowawayFog@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Won’t someone think of these POOR AI companies!

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  • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.

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  • atk007@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So Pro Piracy argument … So no more patents or copyrights

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lolz. Fuck you, fat dickhead.

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    > law passes
    > buy servers
    > create piracy site
    > call it AIbay
    > have all kinds of things there under a synonymous name
    > when interrogated tell them you have a proprietary technology that you won't release to competitors
    
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  • notso@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In a statement given during a press conference in the Oval Office, the president’s stance on the topic was clear:

    “I’m a big reader, some say the biggest ever. And let me tell you - when you go into a bookstore, they have books costing like insane numbers, like 100.000 Dollars each minimum. Its an absolute disgrace. You have all these authors getting billions just for putting funny little characters on paper. The democrats… They jacked up the price so much, especially under Obama together with the crooked Clintons and sleepy Joe Biden, they were all in this room when it happened, they were all together. Its a shame. They did the same thing with eggs but I brought prices down like, immediately. Immediately. So fast everybody said “Wow” Because they never saw something like that and I will do the same for these books and newspapers. But all these writers and journalists, who are all producing propaganda for the radical left by the way, they are really terrible people - they’re earning trillions… I was speaking to Mr. ChatGPT the other day and he said “They’re ripping us off, Mr. President it’s a totally broken market, they are killing us.” And I agree, it’s a disgrace. A total disgrace. That’s why I’ll bring prices down by not only 100 % or 200 %, but probably more like 1,000 % in the next two weeks. You’ll never have seen lower prices for medication, let me tell you… And books too. So they’re will be big price cuts. Bigly.”

    /s

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  • kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Shut up orange paedophile.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Time to ignore all the copyright and patents for my own nefarious purposes AI training

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t spend one more dollar on educational material. If a person had to pay for every textbook and online subscription, education would be impractical.

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  • Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can’t be expected to - broadly understand the world and your place in it - when every article, book, or anything else that you’ve read or studied, you’re supposed to pay for.

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