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Japan sets new internet speed world record — 4 million times faster than average US speeds

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.livescience.com/technology/communications/japan-sets-new-internet-speed-record-its-4-million-times-faster-than-average-us-broadband-speeds?lrh=fc4f8a5c50d6085913cde36404eddbb01e977914d23c652b91862dd5a1b60490

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  • Shadow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pretty clickbait title to compare a lab speed to average internet. I’m sure it’s several million times faster than average Japanese internet too.

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_countries_by_Internet_…

      07.  United States 	274.16
      
      19.  Japan 	        212.06
      

      According to this page, seemingly sourced from Ookla, US has way higher average speeds these days.

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      • Subdivide6857@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is yet another thing the Republicans have been attacking (funding for rural broadband providers). Our rural areas are actually extremely well covered. Most of the midwest is fibered up. My local co-op’s minimum offered speed is 350x350.

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      • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ranked by Speedtest.net data for January 2025

        And the average speed of a passenger car is 170km/h, as ranked by speed data from the Nürburgring.

        People on shitty slow connections don’t have a need to go test that speed much, they know it’s shit, people who just got their fancy new 1Gbit fiber and want to know exactly how fast it is do.

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      • redlemace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ranked by Speedtest.net data

        I have no other ideas to collect that data better but i’m sure that does not give a good generic view of the reality. Every tech I know in Sweden uses bredbandskollen. Even if an end-users is asked if they did test speed and delay, the site was bredbandskollen in nearly 100% of the cases if they had done so. Therefore I dare say speedtest is missing data and that list has no statistical relevance outside the scope of the speedtest user population.

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      • MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Do you think Google Fiber made the average internet speed increase in part?

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      • shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Japan seeming to be ahead of the curve 20 years ago but now being at the same level or behind, seems to be a common theme.

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Its just got nothing to do with “internet”. That is the issue with the headline. Its just some random piece of fiber that isnt even connected to any wider network. Im assuming they just used big ass rolled up rolls of fiber connected to one another to get to the 1800km. There are no end user “internet” applications for it either. The only thing it could be used for is isolated connections between internet hubs or inside datacenters for local network.

      Still impressive ofcourse but just doesnt have anything to do with “internet” in the end user sense.

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  • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    over 1,120 miles (1,802 kilometers).

    This is the most American thing ever. Taking a rounded number (1800km), converting it to customary units then converting it back again with rounding error.

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Relevant xkcd

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        is there an xkcd for there always being an xkcd for everything? i wonder now …

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      • ksigley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There really is Xkcd for everything.

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    • Codpiece@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, real Americans would measure it in rocks, or football fields or something.

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      • prex@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Image

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “Stone” is British, we don’t use that bullshit here.

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      • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s right there in the article.

        over roughly the distance between New York and Florida

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    • Hoimo@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I also have to laugh when someone takes a very rough estimate (around a hundred miles) and converts it to metric with 4 significant figures (160.9 km). Even 160 is too precise when talking about a distance of 80-120 miles. If the original number has 1 sigfig, the conversion should too, even if that feels way off.

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      • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I swear I’ve bought stuff at Costco before that was 1.3608kg.

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  • rekabis@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And yet, developers still build sites that load 500kb of JS just to display 5kb of text.

    We don’t need faster speeds, we need more reasonable and thoughtful site design. Most sites are ridiculously overengineered, and don’t need a lot of what has been stuffed into them.

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    • JargonWagon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But then how will you be able to mine every single possible data point on every single visitor so that you can maximize profits with advertisors?! Huh?! /s

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      • Mhad1@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nah its not even always about profit, sometimes its just pure sloppy showoff like a page where I am supposed to sign up should not be promoting the company, if Ive already got onto that page why do I need to scroll all the way down to the join/sign up button!

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      • rekabis@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        IME it is more devs and managers going wild on the “golly gee wiz” features that are meant to dazzle site visitors, rather than on actual content (or to obscure a lack of actual material content).

        Sure, what you mentioned is a problem, and a serious one at that. But your issue arises more from marketers and bean counters and C-Suite execs than devs and managers.

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    • 3abas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You know we use the internet to transfer way more than most websites right?

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      • sqgl@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes however bloated websites slow traffic for everyone.

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    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are more under engineered because of cost cutting and over designed by management to make profit

      Here is a lightning fast website that gets the proper amount of engineering time because the goals of management and that of the development team align perfectly.

      www.mcmaster.com

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      • Devmapall@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Holy crap that website is quick

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  • deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    transmitting over 125,000 gigabytes of data per second over 1,120 miles (1,802 kilometers).

    Please include usable metrics in the title

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  • HollowNaught@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Meanwhile in aus we get like 5 mb/s

    ;-;

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    • DJDarren@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was complaining to my wife yesterday that it’s not easy to find torrents for the Aus version of Taskmaster.

      She told me to be patient, their internet is shit so it’ll take a while to get it off their servers.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is it? I feel like I’ve accidentally downloaded it by accident on more than one occasion when trying to get the UK version… I usually just go to tpb.

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    • BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only until you hit your data cap!

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And they won’t tell you what it is, they’ll just throttle you when you reach it.

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    • dan@upvote.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah Australia still hasn’t quite caught up to the internet speeds other countries had 15 years ago. It’s kinda sad. I’m still sad the original (good) NBN got replaced by the janky NBN that’s taken years to fix.

      The other weird thing in Australia is that even the expensive fibre plans are asymmetric. Most countries that have fibre have a 1Gbps symmetric plan (meaning upload and download are both 1Gbps) whereas the 1Gbps NBN plan has a ridiculously low ~50Mbps upload speed.

      I moved from Australia to the USA in 2013. Back then, I had ~9Mbps ADSL2+ in Australia, compared to 600Mbps in the USA. Huge difference. Now I’ve got 10Gbps symmetric in the USA for $50/month through a local ISP.

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      • octobob@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Where the hell are you getting 10Gbps for $50/mo? I’m paying $95/mo for 1Gbps

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      • trk@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m still sad the original (good) NBN got replaced by the janky NBN that’s taken years to fix.

        Malcolm Turnbull is the one I blame most for that. It was his party’s policy, but it was his charisma and perceived technology knowledge that sold it.

        And he did it for the chance of being PM, not because it was the correct course of action for the betterment of the people he was supposed to be representing.

        Imagine selling out an entire country’s future for a promotion. What a cockhead.

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      • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That sounds like a coax network instead of fiber.

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    • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wow, it’s that bad?

      I live in rural Pacific NW and just upgraded to 5gbit symmetric fiber.

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      • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Most Australians live in or near a major city, it’s pretty common to be able to get gigabit. if you’re unlucky you might be limited to 100 megabit, but in some remote or rural areas I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 5Mb.

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      • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s quite a speed. How much does it cost and is this a company or personal subscription?

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    • redlemace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Half-duplex

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    • CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A slow Internet is good for you… You dontt have to worry about losing hair, eyes going blind and going crazy (too fast)

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  • malloc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ignoring clickbait title, this is impressive. Networked devices used to be the limit on data transfer.

    Are there any devices even capable at reading/writing at 125,000G/sec?

    Seems breakthroughs here are more relevant to for backhaul networks.

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    • Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Most likely sending pseudorandom data so that the data can be validated at the other end.

      Given they say it’s really 19 fibers in one, that’s really just 6,600Gb/s per fiber which is really just 4 colors per fiber with one of those and some amplifiers: www.fs.com/c/1.6t-osfp-infiniband-1392

      Apparently those go into a watercooled switch. Those 1.6T NICs sound absolutely insane. Makes your home 10G network look strings and cans.

      It’s not that insane in perspective. Probably still needs a whole rack of equipment to run just that test, but the technology is not too far off that it’s quite plausible.

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      • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        they say it’s really 19 fibers in one … It’s not that insane in perspective

        The impressive bit being that the bundle of 19 fibres is around the same overall diameter as a single regular one - “diameter of five-thousandths of an inch (0.127 millimeters)” - meaning those individual strands are unbelievably thin.

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    • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      0.125 P/s

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  • youngalfred@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The actual source: www.nict.go.jp

    Not really an ‘internet’ world speed record, but really a wired data transmission record if I’m reading correctly.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s a record in data transmission. The medium doesn’t matter.

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      • youngalfred@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The title is ‘internet’, implying a network of networks. The title wasn’t ‘new record in data transmission speed’.

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Theoretically, you could always increase the speed of data transmission by using more cables in parallel.

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  • DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol, does this mean there is one apartment building in Japan with a hundred units that uses more bandwidth than the entire United States 😂

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What’s the point though? With more and more trash content on the internet what would the bandwidth be used for? To force-feed people more ads?

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    • sdfric88@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For better piracy 🥰

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    • Konstant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      640K ought to be enough for anyone.

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    • ilillilillilillililli@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right, but have you seen this new trash in 8K? Do you even have a video wall?

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  • CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    4 million times faster to watch porns? Their porn industry is thriving

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    • FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fuck the japanese porn industry, why the fuck would you blur the only relevant parts…

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  • Almonds@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Avg US speed is kind of silly to compare to isn’t it? I mean, in most of my state satellite is still the most reliable and that’s 100mb/s at most

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    • adarza@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      more than half the households in my county do not have any high-speed wireline service available to them.

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  • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Round 37 of Dead Horse vs. Baseball Bat.

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  • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    fiber optics

    Won’t come out immediately, as that tech would first have to be finalized then introduced to the domestic market.

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    • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Japan is already pretty damn close to achieving 100% fiber network coverage for every household.

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      • Burghler@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Living there right now and that is hard to believe. It’s very common to find housing that still runs on VDSL. Living in Tokyo too

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        damn that list is so clean. if it was any other place on earth, i guess it would be an incomprehensible or hard to read form

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      • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not surprising it’s already ahead, as about 20 years ago they offered 100mbps to anyone who could pay for it (a certain Danny Choo comes to mind).

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m sorry, fiber optics needs to be finalized before being introduced to the domestic market?

      I’ve had fiver since a long, LONG time

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      • mriswith@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I’ve had a fiber cable running all the way into my router for over a decade.

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i mean a tincan with a wire on it is faster than average us internet speeds

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    • octobob@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I got some news for you about Australia then.

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      • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Let me guess, Kangaroos? Their pouches could hold alot of packets

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Once you become one with the high ping, you gain superpowers.

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    • Godort@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A crate full of microSD cards could deliver speeds like this with a ping time measured in hours

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Now i wonder what would be the average transmission speed of a rocket full of SD cards to another planet, compared to wirelessly transmitting that data?

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    • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That superpower is mere strength just from slamming many keyboards/mice/controllers at the wall and/or floor.

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  • chefdano3@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Still can’t use debit cards though.

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  • DaddleDew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I grew up with dial up. Now I have 75 mbps and it’s plenty enough except maybe for that one time once in a while where I’m downloading a game on Steam. I see no point of paying three times what I’m paying right now per month to get 300 mbps. Even if it’s available, even if it’s worth it.

    Average internet speeds can be very misleading.

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    • ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      House size and media consumption are going to be big factors here I think. You get four people trying to stream, game, listen to music, whatever it is people these days use phones for, etc; it’s going to really add up. Sure lots of people barely use the internet and are getting sold way more than they need but it’s not uncommon anymore for multiple hd things to be simultaneously happening in one house

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  • axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wouldn’t it be bottlenecked by the upload speed?

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