I totally missed the point when PeerTube got so good

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨hisao@ani.social⁩ to ⁨fediverse@lemmy.world⁩

When I tried it in the past, I kinda didn’t take it seriously because everything was confined to its instance, but now, there’s full-featured global search and proper federation everywhere? Wow, I thought I heard there were some technical obstacles making it very unlikely, but now it’s just there and works great! I asked ChatGPT and it says this feature was added 5 years ago! Really? I’m not sure how I didn’t notice this sooner. Was it really there for so long? With flairs showing original instance where video comes from and everything?

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spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

I asked ChatGPT

Why do people bring this up every fucking time?

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- x00z@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Because they know it’s not accurate and explicitly mention it so you know where this information comes from.
  
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  - spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Then why post it at all?
    
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- BullCrapDetekta33@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
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  “I used chatgpt”
  
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- sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  People also say they googled, unfortunately
  
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  - spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Not the same thing.
    
    google allows for the possibility that the user was able to think critically about sources that a search returned
    
    chapGPT is drunk uncle confidently stating a thing they heard third hand from Janet in accounting and then taking him at his word
    
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- thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Because people are dumber than chatgpt.
  
  It also proves we don’t have a 50/50 split in intelligence. We need to look at the mean, then we’ll see most people are just plain fucking dumb
  
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  - hisao@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Also, lazier. I’m more likely to stick with information from the first 1-3 search results I decided to click, while AI will parse and summarize dozens in fraction of time I spend reading just one.
    
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- GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Honest answer? It’s easy and it won’t judge you for asking stupid questions.
  
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  - spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Search engines and Wikipedia don’t judge you for asking stupid questions either.
    
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  - bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    No it’ll just hallucinate shit that’ll make you look dumb when you go and state it as fact.
    
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- Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I asked Gemini, and my browser crashed, so, idk, man I guess it’s knowledge too powerful for human minds to contain.
  
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- Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  what do you mean? it’s like being angry that people bring up I googled something
  
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  - Slotos@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Googling at least until fairly recently meant „I consulted an index of Internet”. It is a means to get to the bit of information.
    
    Asking ChatGPT is like asking a well-behaved parrot in the library and believing every word it says instead of reading the actual book the librarian would point you towards.
    
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  - spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    google: I checked the listing of news sites to find out information about a world event directly from professionals who double check their sources
    
    chatGPT: I asked my hairstylist their uninformed opinion on a world event based on overheard conversations
    
    I mean a moron could find the wrong information from google and your hairstylist could get lucky and be right, but odds are one source provides the opportunity for reliable results and the other is random and has a massive shit ton of downsides.
    
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  - grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Looking up a list of resources that you then evaluate yourself is very categorically different from getting an “answer” from a bot.
    
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- Affidavit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I think it’s because it causes all of Lemmy to have a collective ragegasm. It’s kind of funny in a trollish way. I support OP in this endeavour.
  
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  - brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Even the small local AI niche hates ChatGPT, heh.
    
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- neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  I asked ChatGPT and it says this feature was added 5 years ago! Really?
  
  How works you phrase this differently?
  
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  - spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    “It looks like this feature was added 5 years ago.”
    
    If asking for confirmation, just ask for confirmation.
    
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  - viking@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Apparently the feature was added 5 years ago.
    
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- muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  This is the golden age of misinformation and you are bitching about citations?
  
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SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I asked chat gpt

Lol

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- FEIN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I asked ChatGPT and it thinks OP made a humorous comment
  
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- grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  The spirit is there
  
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- hisao@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  “I asked ChatGPT” and my post got 180 replies 🔥
  
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  - kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    We used to post pictures of beans on Lemmy and get five hundred replies
    
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  - elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    We need the slapping batman meme when Robin says “I asked ChatGPT”
    
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hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
If ChatGPT said it was added five years ago, that means it was added anywhere between 13.8 billions years ago and never.

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- Hadriscus@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  That made me exhale. But using the age of the universe as lower limit is already giving chatgpt too much credit
  
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30p87@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Wanted to say: No, according to Wikipedia global search launched in 2020.

But that actually was 5 years ago, damn.

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- gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Getting older… There’s a creaking in my bones… 2020 was 5 years ago…
  
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  - Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Don’t listen to him 2020 was like last year. Also the 90s was ten years ago don’t let anyone tell you different.
    
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  - thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    My kid turns 17 next year. I can still feel him as a baby snuggling and sleeping on my chest, he was so tiny.
    
    Nothing drives home the march of time like seeing that.
    
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  - morgan_423@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    When I hit the mid-40s, I realized I was running into at least five things a day that turned me into the “man ages 50 years in five seconds” meme from the end of Saving Private Ryan.
    
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- zerozaku@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  2018 is 7 years ago is fact that haunts me everytime I come across any “7 years ago” YouTube video
  
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mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Chatgpt is wrong BTW. But yeah its been there for a long time.

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- Crozekiel@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Why the fuck do people ask ChatGPT for shit like this? ChatGPT doesn’t know facts. It’s a magic 8-ball with more words.
  
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  - eronth@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Asking chatgpt can be super useful to get info. I just don’t understand why people don’t try to verify what it says before just re-posting like fact.
    
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- qqq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/releases/…/v2.3.0
  
  ChatGPT is correct?
  
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- Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  Chatgpt is wrong BTW
  
  LOL at this point I just assume that anytime someone cites it. It’s infuriating that people seem to think it knows dick about shit. Just mass disinformation, I guess.
  
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3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I have to say I think Peertube itself is good, but the content still isn’t there yet. Of course we all know that’s because there isn’t cash to be made on Peertube

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- Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Counter point: I dont want to watch content that has a monetary incentive behind it.
  
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  - Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Why exactly do you think people create content for you to consume in the first place?
    
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  - swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Same, and it’s weird to me that so many people now believe that they deserve to be paid for participating in their hobbies.
    
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- chromodynamic@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Got me thinking about how YouTubers get money. According to a quick web search, YT pays $0.01 to $0.03 per view. So if you release 10 videos a month, you made $0.10 per viewer. But Patreon memberships are typically around $5.00 a month, equivalent to $0.50 per view in the same scenario. Of course Patreon will take a cut, but it is still a lot more money.
  
  So, if a lot of your viewers think your channel is good enough to donate to, ad money basically becomes an afterthought. In this case, the only advantage of YT over PT is discovery, i.e. the number of viewers likely to find your videos in the first place (but there's also more competition on YT, so...)
  
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  - skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Creators upload videos twice, once for patrons who watch them ad-free and once for people who don’t want to pay. That way, people who don’t have money to spend on YouTube can still enjoy their videos and they get a little kickback. Youtubers don’t need Peertube to release videos ad-free, so it doesn’t really change much if Patreon is more than enough.
    
    Furthermore, the inherent privacy issues with peer to peer video consumption (I can easily track what videos you’ve been watching by simply connecting to the swarm) and the huge hosting costs a moderate sized Youtuber would inflict make the premise rather silly.
    
    I think Peertube is great for small channels and maybe for corporate videos within an intranet, but Peertube can’t afford a moderately popular Youtuber.
    
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  - Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    So, if a lot of your viewers think your channel is good enough to donate to, ad money basically becomes an afterthought.
    
    I don’t think this is realistic, most people will not open their wallets, especially since they can’t just go around paying a monthly subscription to everyone they watch.
    
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  - AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I think 1 cent per view is on the high end for YouTube
    
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- mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Some instances have different ways of making money. TILVids for example shares money from donations with the creators. Theres also support buttons that help creators out. As well as ads on some instances as themes.
  
  Its not as popular for the same reason your on fediverse, the interface allows anyone without ads to see your videos. The insentive does not always need to be $$, it most cases, its community building.
  
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- errer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Also the iOS app is pure shit. Can’t even filter by language.
  
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harrybo93@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You asked ChatGPT and thought it gave you a correct answer…? 🤣

For real though, Peertube is awesome now. Live streaming works a treat, so many plugins and add ons that make it great. Not to mention it now has its own app which is great.

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- qqq@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  It did give the right answer…
  
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  - Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    It did not, it was added 4 months ago, not 5 years ago:
    
    Add SepiaSearch URL as default search index.
    
    github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/releases/…/v7.1.0
    
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rozodru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I must be doing something wrong or using a shit instance cause I can’t find one at all but everytime I go to peertube (and I"m not searching just locally) I see like 3 videos get posted a day, most of which are videos about Lies of P or car videos. LIke there’s no content.

so…what am I doing wrong?

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- hisao@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Either poorly-federated instance, or you look in the wrong place? Here’s a good one: peertube.wtf/videos/browse?live=false
  
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  - rozodru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    thank you! yeah I was using peertube.tv and thinking “this can’t be it” other than that I tried Dalek Zone and got frustrated with finding anything on that. This is much better thanks.
    
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- Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  PeerTube is essentially a whitelist. If the instance admin has not enabled automated federation, you probably won’t find much. That’s why I recommend using a third party interface like GrayJay or Pipeline. Although unfortunately neither one supports signing in at this time, so you can’t interact.
  
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- Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Same. Can’t find shit to watch. Can’t figure out how to add any instances, either. The “add an instance” button appears to be missing in the app or I’m just retarded and doing it wrong.
  
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QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
GrayJay also supports adding PeerTube instances:

pluginhost.grayjay.app/peertube?url=https%3A%2F%2…

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grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Yeah I finally made an account and there is more than enough here to satisfy my mealtime watching needs. Still not a lot of content when compared to the mainstream platforms, but that reminds me of all the fediverse offerings a few years ago.

I feel like it’s only a matter of time before there’s enough on peertubes to keep me off the mainstreams almost entirely.

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blackn1ght@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
How are PeerTube instances funded? I’d imagine that the cost of running an instance is significantly higher than a Lemmy instance.

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- DesertCreosote@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Depends on the instance and activity levels. I run a very small one on my own, and it costs ~$10 each month for server rental and b2 storage.
  
  If I was running it on a broader scale, it would start to add up, but I mostly wanted to help with federation and reliability, and that’s fairly inexpensive.
  
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- dil@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Itd be nice if there was a way for ppl to rent their own channels off an instance rather than a whole instance, since that instance gets expensive hosting it by yourself, built in way like a 1$ a month a channel could cover hosting costs maybe
  
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  - Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Depending on the size of your uploads, that could cost a whole lot more than $1.
    
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- Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Depends entirely on the instance. Mine runs on the same server with a bunch of other stuff so virtually nothing.
  
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thatradomguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I missed the part where that’s my problem.

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Sorry I just wanted to say that.

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rumimevlevi@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Not my experience, still hard to me to find good quality and interesting contents on it. A problem i don’t have on pixelfed, so it’s not about the lack of algorithm

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- thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Yeah, it’s not really all that deep in content yet.
  
  Looks promising though
  
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UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Just wondering how can you earn money on peertube? There seems to be one channel dominating the site Transport Evolved.

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mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Take a look sometime at the top videos of !peertube@lemmy.world or https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos to see some great videos! Creators all over the fediverse.

I myself host a peertube instance and its pretty easy to use.

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daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Any interesting video recommendations?

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Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
My experience hasn’t been as smooth. The global search seems dependent on instances, some are better than others. And playback across instances is hit or miss.

With that said, usage entirely local to the instance is flawless and speedy, which is nice.

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swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I don’t even remember a time when PeerTube wasn’t federated. For as long as I’ve been using it, that’s been kind of the point.

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Teknikal@eviltoast.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I tried it about a year ago and instantly dismissed it, not one video that I found slightly interesting.

Even after reading this Im not going to try it again because it was just that bad.

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Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Is peertube compatible with owncast. Like can you see owncast streams on peertube

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