Europe has great universities. Come study here.
Student visa applicants will now be forced to make their social media accounts public
Submitted 5 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ReallyAngryNerd@europe.pub 5 weeks ago
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Some of them don’t allow foreign students and some of them charge an absolute fortune to foreigners.
Vanth@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
So an applicant with dangerous people in their life, maybe an abusive family member or a stalker ex, is forced to expose their accounts they would otherwise keep private. That’s the first bad-case scenario that comes to mind, I’m sure there are more.
I propose a new rule - if so for me, then so for thee. Anything imposed on legal applicants is also imposed on the lawmakers who put it in place.
fodor@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
There is no rule against deleting accounts, my friend.
Vanth@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
But one shouldn’t have to.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
applicants for several kinds of student visas would be required to "adjust the privacy settings on all of their personal social media accounts to ‘public’
They are so ridiculous.
But ofc it’s not going to happen. They can lick my.
fodor@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
It already is happening. Source: a person getting a visa now-ish.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I can’t believe there are still people saying stuff like this won’t happen.
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Ah damn, I was a state actor who was going to smuggle in sleeper agents to perform sabotage and espionage in the US, but I can’t figure out how to create a fake social media profile. I admit defeat.
m4xie@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
At least you’re not a teenager that has ever expressed any sympathy for Palestinians. Those are the real threat.
First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
What the hell, I went to check the official website for my embassy and this is true??
Kirp123@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yep, here’s a US government source.
p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com 5 weeks ago
Yet another reason not to study there. Ideological screening, what a joke.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
make social media private
say "i don't have social media"
problem solved.
einkorn@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
- gets rejected at the border because officer doesn’t believe person doesn’t have social media accounts
- ???
- no profit
wastelandpilot@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I imagine this is what will happen even though it’s absurd. Like it’s actively going to become detrimental to not be trackable via an online presence connected to your identity because there are people who are mad that you won’t let them invade your privacy. Lol
fodor@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
That is a fucking terrible idea. If they later find it, they’ll lock you up and maybe later throw you out. The financial risk makes no sense.
y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Find what?
I haven’t had “traditional” social media for years and what I did have has since been deleted, or so I’m told.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Then do it for real. Social media is kinda shit anyway.
KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I bet the nazi’s will have fake “real” ones ready to go either way. When they want to take their current purge to the next level, you’re fucking done.
don’t go to shithole america
Actual problem solved.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There are plenty of schools in Europe. There is no reason for essentially the equivalent of 1930s Jewish people to study in essentially Hitler’s Germany in the 30s right when the smarter people were getting out.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
United States schools have many advantages over European ones. For example we don’t need a lengthy unit on WW2 era Germany, you get it for free by walking outside.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Trash country continues circling the drain.
Remember folks, always vote against Republicans in the most likely manner to prevent them from having any level of power.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
This will be a boon for stalkers.
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
What happens if you don’t have any social media? I haven’t posted under my name on anything in a decade…
whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Honestly speaking I see a future where people like us are left out of an integral part of the economy.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Many jobs will already disqualify applicants if they don’t have any social media, or refuse to provide account names. The rise of cancel culture means many businesses are extremely risk-averse, and don’t want any employees who are prone to posting inflammatory things.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
You will have to disclose your lemmy account.
Hobo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say if a random immigration official knows about your anonymous lemmy account you were already mega-fucked on the immigration front. They’ve been watching you and probably have a 3 inch thick file on you before you walked in the door.
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Welp here it is.
I love trump!
match@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
Hello ICE agents, let me walk you through my DeviantArt account. And here’s my second DeviantArt account dedicated to the weird shit.
Dhrystone@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
“Yeah, I don’t have one. Cheers.”
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isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
like they’ll belive that
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Imagine a country, they spent billions over the last two centuries to build influence and they got to the top. Foreigners are willing to pay thousands of dollars for getting a degree in such country but no, let them go to a different country and get influenced by somebody else
Furbag@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“I don’t use social media and never have.”
So what are they going to do if someone fires back with this? Deny their visa because they didn’t agree to be spied on by a few of the worst companies on planet fucking earth? Is the government going to be able to somehow make me prove that I don’t have social media?
We have the stupidest people in charge right now.
Professorozone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Why the hell would anyone apply for a visa to come here?
clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
well, have burner social media accounts as well
fodor@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
They say they will find those “with AI”. And they will, for true or for false, because they only want another weapon to use against the “undesirables”.
LordCrom@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
How many false positives will it have when trying to find accounts for John Smith
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“What do you mean this 5 year old account has no posts?”
“Work made me get one, but the UI gives me headaches. I think it gives everyone headaches really.”
PushButton@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That country want to be alone, so leave them alone!
RBWells@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You know, when I got my current job, the people in my department said"we tried to find your Facebook but couldn’t" and I said 'yeah that’s because I don’t have one."
13 years later, still don’t.
Though honestly even our work teams chat would probably be too spicy for these motherfuckers. They just want a pretext to keep out anybody. Like some law impossible to follow, that they can selectively enforce.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
*social media accounts that they know of
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
I question this, and really, their availability.
With prep-time, any prosecutor and crew could dig up every tiny detail about you in about a week, including every single site any related IP addresses to you have been to and how much time you spend there and all of your dns queries.
But here, on the spot. “You tell us”.
Who’s to say what the truth is? lmao.
vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
It’s because the morons running the country don’t think that constitutional freedoms apply to non-citizens. No freedom of speech if your speech hurts their feelings. Fuckin aye
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 5 weeks ago
And how long before that applies to citizens too?
Zron@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Well it’s been like 5 months and we’re already here, so maybe another 6 months to a year?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Bout two months ago at the latest
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They already didn’t think constitutional rights applied to anyone within 100 miles of the boarder. Hell, the SC(in 75) had to say, yes, children are citizens and also had rights.
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
People are missing the point here. Its not about this being a valid strategy to catch anyone but its a fascist strategy to display who’s in control over you when you come here.
Zenith@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Delete all social media problem solved
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Can’t proved they have been deleted and can’t prove you don’t have more.
Problem created.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They trick is to keep some harmless ones. They’re not going to believe you don’t have social media.
I have two social media accounts that I just use to discuss the weather and post pictures of the cat.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Because it’s completely impossible to create a fake account that worship trump and has a lot of maga posts
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Its not about logic it’s about fascism - they want everyone to know who has power on you even if it doesn’t actually do much in practice.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
Brain drain away!
daggermoon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Most based article from a Libertarian news site I’ve ever read.
MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Marco Rubio, this authoritarian bullshit back to Cuba you stupid, fucking anchor baby.
Fijxu@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
And what if I have Instagram but I don’t publish anything on it? lol
SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It’s going to be weird when there’s no handle or social media at all. I nuked my social media around 2020/2021, I was legit tired if people posting travel pics and pretending everything was alright. Oh by the way one could make a fake page just for this, but deep down we know we don’t care.
Kirp123@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If you say that you have no social media accounts they will probably assume you’re lying and deny you.
SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I imagined. Probably it’s better to have a public one where you have the kind of things they want to see.
fodor@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Actually they ask for the last five years, deleted or not.
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
How can you post here if you haven’t had social media accounts since 2021?
SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Well well this is a recent account after all, so it is possible. Also, I do have a public social media, but it’s either used for messaging or it’s empty (follow - only).
dhork@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
… but isn’t Lemmy social media? And you’re here. (Although I guess it is more accurately called antisocial media)
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
I don’t think Lemmy would count as social media but that said, you can easily create a dummy account that just, for example, posts pictures of moths or beans or bread or whatever.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If you loosely follow the definition of social media to mean “Website where you can interact with people in any way” then yes.
But I think the average colloquial use of the term social media really refers to websites where you make a real life personal profile and share things on that profile. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. You as the individual are the focus of those types of sites.
The (original at least) point of sites like Lemmy and Reddit is sharing information where you as an individual are not the focus. Hence posting to communities rather than your own wall or profile, the use of usernames over real names etc.
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Lemmy also can’t be used non-publicly so a pointless distinction considering the context.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Lemmy is social media, but when people say “social media” they’re typically referring to one of two things. They either mean all social media including legacy forums or they mean media that is directly tied to their real names.
Dave@lemmy.nz 5 weeks ago
I’ve heard social media where you interact with strangers instead of “friends” referred to as “antisocial media”.