Do we know how the age verification process is gonna work or is this gonna be one of those neoliberal dystopian spystate kinda deals where the means of data collection is left to corporations only to be subsequently tapped by the state when the want to target individuals?
UK’s Major Porn Providers Agree to Age Checks From Next Month; Aylo, Owner of Pornhub, YouPorn, and RedTube, Will Add Age Assurance Checks by July 25.
Submitted 23 hours ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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gwilikers@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
echodot@feddit.uk 46 minutes ago
Well it’s been monitored by offcom who we all know are the last word in inefficiency, corruption, and stupidity so I’m going to go ahead and guess that they’re just going to say they’re doing checks, and Offcom just not going to check.
They’re probably going to add a second pop-up after the are you 18 pop-up that says “are you lying”.
addie@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
So all of the mainstream porn will be blocked, leaving all of the niche and special-interest stuff available? Excellent, excellent…
echodot@feddit.uk 45 minutes ago
Interestingly there are noticeable absences from that list.
Perhaps that’s by design, there’s no reason the politicians would make their own lives more difficult.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
If UK really wanted to protect the kids, they would’ve jailed Transphobe JK Rowings for hate crime
daggermoon@lemmy.world 22 minutes ago
The UK is transphobic too though.
7112@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
This feel strangely like it has little to do with actually protecting kids…
0x0@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
It’s more about penetrating your privacy but think of the children is the go-to argument to sugar-coat that.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Someone should be asking what the sentence will be for kids who commit identity fraud and use someone else’s ID to set up an account. It may flip the narrative to point out they are intentionally creating more criminal acts that will get kids in trouble with the law and possibly ruin lives.
Ushmel@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
It’s about making LGBTQ content “adult only” and using this same mechanism to enforce ID law on that content. They’ve been doing it in some USA states for a few years now. No one wants to be the Porn Politician that votes against it.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Yep, ancap thought in terms of efficiency, to justify ancap, goes after the central controller just not having enough information to fully govern a society well enough.
These fuckers apparently think something changed, if you have one big honeypot of a web and mandate checks (as a justification) that yield said information to them.
BTW, they are right, until we find a way to decentralize services.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 11 hours ago
Oh no. Some hackers hacked out database and released all the ID information on high profile people. Oh such whoopsie, we made.
- Adult Websites
echodot@feddit.uk 44 minutes ago
I’m sure the most rigorous of data safety standards will be followed. After all they’re being forced to do this I’m sure they won’t take the cheapest possible route. Oh definitely not.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
Depends entirely on how it’s implemented, because the website doesn’t need to know who you are, only verify that you are over 18. Which can be done reasonably securely - you generate a random ID on a secure service, give that ID to the website, and the only communication between the two of them is “Is id 123 valid and an adult? Yes/No”.
Now, if that “secure service”, most likely a government contract done as cheaply as possible turns out not to be, and they keep logs linking those IDs to the URLs requesting verification, then the entire thing goes belly up.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
So your bank now knows you accessed certain websites. And you are okay with that?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 hours ago
I seriously feel this. I’ve found a little site that dgaf what country or state you’re in. I use a VPN if I want a change.
letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
mastodon has porn and you don’t even need an account to use search. also, this will just drive people to use sketchy sites that won’t follow the rules.
drmoose@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
You can literally find porn on search engines. Google images is a bit restrictive but Bing, Duckduckgo etc will straight up show porn in the image or video searches.
Petter1@lemm.ee 19 hours ago
“PrOtEcT ThE ChiLdReN! 👆🏻🥴”
I can not hear that anymore!
Children need awesomeness not shielding, concealment and tabooing.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
silver lining, the kinks of the future are gonna be sooo fucked up.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 hours ago
“I showed you my elbow, pls respond 🥺”
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
Amen. It’s like they think that somehow it is better to only encounter the world when you are in college and alone.
grue@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I’m disappointed that Pornhub is apparently capitulating instead of blocking access entirely in protest, like they’ve done in other jurisdictions.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
They only really block access when there isn’t an official way to validate. Iirc, Louisiana did this over a year ago and pirnhub is doing age verification there now.
Armand1@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
If your kid has half a brain he’ll do what we did as kids when porn sites were blocked on the home WiFi: He’ll just get a VPN.
And when VPN websites were blocked on the home WiFi, we’d just download their apps on mobile data.
Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
Better to educate your kids on their natural urges and letting them use the more moderated sites than have them go down the more dodgy rabbitholes. No kink shaming but some of the things people do are nasty.
MiyamotoKnows@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Garbage. This info will be weaponized by anyone who is willing to buy it.
gwilikers@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
Absolutely. Super easy to use this in blackmail. Especially in a country as repressed as the UK.
jasoman@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
So much for being better than the US. Welcome to the downfall of modern society UK.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 hours ago
It’s been happening for decades.
jasoman@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Indeed, it has been the same here.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
VPN subs will be up and UK viewership will be nonexistent
MetalMachine@feddit.nl 6 hours ago
People are not gonna agree with me but, it makes sense to have age verification just like you have to verify your age for tobacco or alcohol.
Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
Is there a paper linking gooning to cancer, why would you compare those things
daggermoon@lemmy.world 29 minutes ago
I love this comment. Thank you!
RepleteLocum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 hour ago
I don’t agree with him, but there are certainly health issues stemming from porn consumption.
Be it ed, or a mental health issue.
drmoose@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Would it make sense for alcohol age verification if every household had beer taps installed? Because thats what internet is.
MetalMachine@feddit.nl 3 hours ago
Its certainly the parents responsibility to make sure those kids dont drink. And if they do, there should be repercussions just like we have the same expectations with Gun use.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
So people too young or too privacy conscious to use those major platforms will move to nicher porn sites. Doesn’t sound like a bad idea at all… /s
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 22 hours ago
don't the uk have a history of straight up putting porn in print magazines and on free television every day?
Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 hours ago
Page 3 of the sun newspaper was the famous one for just having a topless women emblazoned on it
tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk 53 minutes ago
Even having a girl as young as 16 on there, which I don’t think was legal (age of consent is 16 in the UK but I don’t think that extends to pornography).
The Sun only stopped it in the last 15 years.
PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
To Americans, tits may be considered porn. To a good chunk of the rest of the world, it’s not as pornographic.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 20 hours ago
Are they going to add a box to enter your age like on Steam that you immediately roll back to 1st January 1901?
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
6/9/1969…every time
Ushmel@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
They did this in Florida. They want you to submit a picture of yourself and your photo ID to a porn website
devolution@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Say it with me folks! VPN!
serpineslair@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
V! P! N!
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
So what privacy will I have to give up?
Actually I’m in Canada so I’m probably safe anyway.
I mean… I don’t watch porn so this doesn’t affect my anyway…
captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 18 hours ago
It’s tied to your account on the website. So it’s tied to all of your viewing activity. It could be leaked or compromised. It could be subpoenaed. It could be purchased.
captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 18 hours ago
Some of these ham fisted age verification checks ask you to upload photos of your government ID
MurrayL@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
So this will affect Reddit and Lemmy too, presumably?
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
It already has. Lemmy.zip if unavailable to users (of the admins own volition as they don’t have the capability to comply) in the Uk because of the law
tabular@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Headline should have been: pornsites gave no spunk. Screw the government, and just plug the whole country. Though we’ll no longer have easy access various VPNs will still allow us to reach around with IP protection, just like consuming BBC service without a license. Cum on.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Time to invest in a VPN company
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 minutes ago
I wonder what a fake beard or mustache does as far as fooling the machine goes?