Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?
After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.
“We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos”
Funny how that’s the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. “We HAVE to make it thinner so there’s no space! You wouldn’t want a laptop that’s not complete shit if it meant it’d be less thin and breakable, would you?”
Panties@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
No earphone jack again. That’s a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It’s just a small inconvenience
Laser@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced…
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I disagree about this being a good solution. USB-C is not meant to take the strain of being used as an audio port when being used in the go so there is risk of damaging the port while a headphone jack is more stable and allows the plug to rotate. Plus I don’t want to have a dingle I can forget when in a rush.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You also have to remember to have that adapter with you
HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You can find adapters that can charge while still having a 3.5mm back
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I have a tablet that came with a C to 3.5 adapter and it worked well enough for a bit but soon enough it was only intermittently allowing the headphone connection to work, with a message about the port being dirty or something. Yet I could go right from unplugging that and putting the charger in and it worked fine.
There’s just no substitute for a dedicated port, especially when it barely takes up any room
Panties@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
It’s really a small inconvenience, but using an adapter would mean I’d be prone to misplace it when I use my headphones on anything else, so it hardly makes anything better
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
That means the audio still goes through another DAC, lowering the sound quality, compared to an analog 3.5 jack. Also, who wants to further risk wearing out\vreaking their charge port, jack inputs almost seem like they can’t break.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity.
Auth@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No one has been using aux cable mobile headphones for the past 10 years. Headphone jack is e-waste at this point. bluetooth audio is great and if you really want to be a boomer you can use the usb C headphones.
Mandrilleren@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I never use wired headphones even though I have a jack in my phone. But I have never bought a phone without a jack and probably never will.
Ipersonally think it’s user hostile to remove the jack and also goes directly agains the green profile Fairphone wants to have.
lobut@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I was just hoping a phone like fairphone would give me the option to buy a small module or something to let me do it.
Yes, yes there’s adapters … yes, yes, you don’t need to use it … I understand. I just want it.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
You'd ultimately be sacrificing battery size for that Aux jack you hardly use. For most that's not worth it
Kowowow@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
“Modularity” but still no headphone jack, couldn’t I just have a backplate with a big bump on it to accommodate a 3.5mm jack?
foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Big? The headphone jack is not large enough to protrude from a cell phone chassis. Any company telling you they can’t fit it is just lying to sell you BT headphones.
ggwithgg@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
You have these usb-c to mini jack adapters. They are like 5 to 10eu. They are small enough to keep them attached to your jack headphone. It works perfectly for me.
I think it is better to view the usb-c plug as ‘one protocol to rule them all’. If you do so, it makes quite some sense.
brotundspiele@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Every adapter I had was broken after a year or less. I imagine if you keep them attached to your phone, they’ll break even faster. Do these adapters exist with a 90° angle which might help preventing broken cables?
Not really in the spirit of reducing waste.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
I’ve never had one of those actually work…
Goodeye8@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Honestly, I don't really get the people who complain about the lack of 3.5mm jack on a smartphone. If you're looking for quality you're more likely to get better quality out quality USB-C headphones than quality 3.5mm headphones due to the USB-C headphones picking up less noise and having its own DAC (which is probably better than the phone DAC that 3.5mm would use).
Mihies@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
What about the simplicity?
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
You are completely and utterly wrong. I’m pretty sure that a $700 phone’s dac is better than what you can find on a $5 dongle from god knows where. Also, by design there should be no “noise” or “interference” causing issues with the internal dac. If there is, you bought an extremely shitty device.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
For the amount of space a earphone jack takes it really doesn't make sense for them to include it, when you can just use a cheap adaptor cable
Ross_audio@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“For the amount of space it takes to include a second speaker or second camera it doesn’t really make sense when you can just plug in an external one”
You sound like an idiot.
I can buy a phone from HMD that’s more repairable, more modular, and has sustainable features.
Fairphone has been a busted flush since they ditched the headphone jack. It’s just the most obvious sign amongst many they started making landfill phones.
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
just make the phone larger and fill the empty space with battery
wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Honestly feels criminal with how bloated companies have made these phones yet they cheap out on a headphone jack.
danc4498@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Probably not a popular thing to say on here, but I think you’ve lost the battle for the earphone jack. It probably just requires way too much real estate to be practical on a modern day cell phone.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Exactly this, that's a lot of space taken up to connect what 4 analog wires?
That's insanity when a AUX to Usb-C converter does the job
zod000@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
It absolutely does not require too much space. And you can still buy phones with headphone jacks, just not any of the (ironically) higher end models because OEMs know they can push their first party bluetooth headphones to these customers.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
It absolutely does not. That’s just the stupid propaganda companies distribute to make people buy wireless earbuds.