If humans can put cameras in the wild and animals will never know they're being watched. Then, an advanced alien civilization can just as well surveil us without any of us noticing.

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• Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s called Dark Matter. C’mon, what’s more likely, 85% of the universe is completely unobservable by chance? Or by design?

  Any post-scarcity civilization that advances past Prime Directive territory just quantum-shifts half a dimension to the left so they can all hang out together without bothering anyone else.

  Aliens don’t judge you, though. No judgemental species can collaborate long enough to go Dark, you either evolve past those primitive instincts or self-destruct.

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• Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Which is probably why they haven’t tried to make contact. “Oh look! It’s a planet full of fundamentalist chimps with nuclear weapons” “should we pop over and say hi?” “Nah, fuck that noise!”

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• BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not just cameras… Probes👽😮

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• FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yes, we are. Please stop masturbating. Thanks.

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  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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    • ToastedRavioli@midwest.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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      Well I’ll be darned

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Come down here and prove my anus, then, you gray cowards!

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    • nokturne213@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Image

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    • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      all we’vve learned in 50 years is that 1 in 10 doesn’t really seem to mind.

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean, you can keep doing it if you want to, some of uh, them, might not mind it so much.

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    • Pirky@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Exactly. If humans can have an extremely diverse range of kinks and fetishes, just imagine the kinds that advanced civilizations might have.

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  • FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Please stop masturbating

    Abso-fucking-lutely not

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No.

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  • ogmios@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You. Tonight.

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  • dumbass@quokk.au ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I'll stop jacking it if you stop watching me, untill then imma be out there doing it San Diego style.

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• the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Baby, tech companies are doing all that right now.

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  • FenrirIII@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Except we’ve given them blanket permission

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• sicarius@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is a topic in the 3 body problem series of books. The aliens have photons (?) that spy on everything the humans do so the humans have no way of planning against their attack without them knowing. The humans assign a few people to make plans with no oversight and without telling anyone else their plan.
  Highly recommend the books.

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  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    photons (?)

    Sophon

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  judging

  So when the hell do we find out the results from the judging? What can we win?

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  • Lazhward@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Congratulations human! You’ve won the ‘most depraved’ award! You’ve been deemed not worth enslaving, instead you’ll be rewarded with a swift and painless death!”

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• ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The government and corporations can do that too

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  • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Bold of you to assume I’m unaware

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• Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There was a TV SciFi series for kids with some guys from the future arriving in our time to solve an issue, and they had cameras the size of pins they could stick anywhere to see what’s happening.

  The fun of the series was that those guys from the future had barely a clue how to blend in in our time, with a historian of them trying to make them fit in.

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• remon@ani.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Unless these aliens can break the laws of physics their cameras will produce heat and have send signals somewhere. So we’ll be able to detect them.

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  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Humans didn’t even have the technology to observe most of the eletromagnegtic spectrum for like practically all of human history apart from the recent hundred of years or so, bold of you to assume there isn’t higher form of techology that’s undetectable to us. I mean, the North Sentinese and other uncontacted tribes around the world still can’t even fanthom that we are talking to each other using radiowaves in the air.

    There is this sci-fi novel called Three Body Problem and

    spoiler

    the aliens used a high tech AI supercomputer called the “Sophons” that can be invisible to humans and are spying on Earth in order to plan for an invasion. Humans only figured out after scientists started dying, seemingly mysteriously.

    Its sci-fi, but like, they could just take advantage of the tech we already have and hack our servers to gather data, and even if humans figure it out about the hacking, they would just think it was human criminal and its just labeled as a “databreach”. (Who knows, maybe one of the databreaches are actually just aliens gathering data.)

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      bold of you to assume there isn’t higher form of techology that’s undetectable to us.

      I think it’s very unlikely that there will ever be a technology that can get around fundamental laws of nature, like entropy.

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  • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I tried going down this line of thinking too, but any assumption you make is predicated on the belief that they would use means that we are familiar with. Just because we do not know of a way to do such and such does not mean it does not exist. This post is referring to a fundamental epistemic problem.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Heat is directed into the 8th dimension.

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    • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No wonder why the Red Lectroids are so permanently pissed off.

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• cattywampas@lemm.ee ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoo_hypothesis

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Or maybe aliens just don’t care. We may not be that special.

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• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You know that documentary show “Spy in the Wild” where they film animals using animatronics that look like those animals. Well aliens are probably doing it right now to us. Lifelike androids are among us. Some of us are even married to them and have kids with them. The aliens are so advanced that they can human robots that are human like down to the cell.

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  • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They live!

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• bstix@feddit.dk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The birds are watching you.

  Try leaving bird seeds. They’ll know instantly, because they’re always watching you.

  If you don’t leave bird seeds they will find your car and shit on it.

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  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    your car

    Laughs in lack of driving license

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• acockworkorange@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Joke’s on them, I’m vanilla AF.

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sofons be like.

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• suswrkr@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  humans are animals

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  • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The Aliens might also be animals, you know?

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    • Hadriscus@jlai.lu ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They could also be fungi, or bacteria

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  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    wild

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    • suswrkr@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      can you define ‘the wild’? what about houseless encampments, are those humans in the wild? we treat them like animals, so maybe you’re onto something.

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• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You think I don’t notice??? I say outloud “I WANT TO BUY CATFOOD!!!” and then suddenly later that week, by pure coincidence, at the supermarket, there just “happens” to be a whole isle of various pet foods??? Yeah. I think not! That whole scheme is just an alien scheme to get me to adopt that french cat who follows me around town speaking french all day! I tried telling him! MR CAT! I DON’T SPEAK YOUR FRENCH LANGUAGE!!! YOU NEED TO BEFRIEND A TRANSLATOR TO TALK TO ME!!! NO HABLAH ESPENOL!!!"

  But there he is. Every day, just trying to talk to me like “J’ai un chat dans mon pantalon”.

  And you’re trying to tell me this cat is just a natural wild animal? This is the work of aliens for sure! Otherwise this cat would walk to Quebec Canada where they tolerate that kind of frenchness.

  What? You think cats give a shit about our borders, and passports??? Bitch, have you met a cat???

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  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Easy way to verify if your phone is spying on you:

    wispers “Hey, Let’s kill [Name of the leader of your country]”

    If you hear police sirens, congrats, your phone cheated on you! Now you know…

    💀💥🔫👮‍♂️ gunshots echoing in the distance…

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• Hotrod54chevy@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Or, they can abduct people and anyone who says they were abducted will be called crazy? 🤔

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• Etterra@discuss.online ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I mean, yeah. If someone had the technology to not only fly half a billion light years to get to our little mud ball (in person or with advanced machines) they’d have a trivial time hiding and blending in. Most likely for the same reason, since there’s literally nothing we have that they could want other than to study us as a curiosity. The only resource we have that they couldn’t find easier and more abundantly, or reproduce from samples, is our culture. That’s it, that’s the only thing we have that might be considered with the effort. Not water, air, energy, precious metals, phosphorous, brains, mates, food, slaves, vassals, soldiers, or anything else that would be worth the trip.

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  • conditional_soup@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean, if you can reasonably bridge the gulf between stars, scientific advancement is basically all that’s left, unless it’s just your culture to be slaving, warmongering dickheads. Your home solar system probably has all the raw materials and energy you could ever ask for.

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  • seven_phone@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think honestly that is the most likely answer to why aliens have not visited, they just are not interested.

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• Sergio@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I kinda like this variation on the theme:

  They clenched around the world like a fist, each black as the inside of an event horizon until those last bright moments when they all burned together. They screamed as they died. Every radio up to geostat groaned in unison, every infrared telescope went briefly snowblind. Ashes stained the sky for weeks afterwards; mesospheric clouds, high above the jet stream, turned to glowing rust with every sunrise. The objects, apparently, consisted largely of iron. Nobody ever knew what to make of that.

  For perhaps the first time in history, the world knew before being told: if you’d seen the sky, you had the scoop. The usual arbiters of newsworthiness, stripped of their accustomed role in filtering reality, had to be content with merely labeling it. It took them ninety minutes to agree on Fireflies. A half hour after that, the first Fourier transforms appeared in the noosphere; to no one’s great surprise, the Fireflies had not wasted their dying breaths on static. There was pattern embedded in that terminal chorus, some cryptic intelligence that resisted all earthly analysis. The experts, rigorously empirical, refused to speculate: they only admitted that the Fireflies had said something. They didn’t know what.

  Everyone else did. How else would you explain 65,536 probes evenly dispersed along a lat-long grid that barely left any square meter of planetary surface unexposed? Obviously the Flies had taken our picture. The whole world had been caught with its pants down in panoramic composite freeze-frame. We’d been surveyed—whether as a prelude to formal introductions or outright invasion was anyone’s guess.

  www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm

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• Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They saw the horrors that our species can do in wars and promptly left the planet

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  • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I always thought it was the transmissions of zombies, vampires, Werewolf, yokai, and godzilla.

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• jackeroni@lemmy.ml ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I should start an OnlyGalaxy account

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• PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Try sun is the flash the universe is a camera

  We are inside a black hole being observed.

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• ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I suspect they’ll just stop bothering with the surveillance and go straight for reality tv and internet porn, much more telling of us as a whole

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• melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Those aliens will be vexed for sure!

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• SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And the probes are actually just cameras they put up our rectum.

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• sprite0@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Image

  they are listening

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• ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yes they do … it’s called Pornhub

  Turns out that aliens had it easy from the very start … whenever they needed info or intel on human beings, human lives, even human samples … all they had to do was to entice them with sex or kinks or some sort of weird fetish or something

  All the aliens had to do was do a couple of anal probs, and that would automatically give them access to several hundred or thousands of humans that automatically became interested in this specific fetish and would just come looking for the aliens without even having to be asked or coerced.

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• NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Of course they do! Where do you think birds come from? Or do you really think they are real?

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  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Birds are just Jabberjays

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