and so it begins
ICE Taps into Nationwide AI-Enabled Camera Network, Data Shows
Submitted 1 month ago by AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
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lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
All those decades many of us spent warning about neoliberals and conservatives working hand in hand to build big brother FOR fascism fell on deaf ears…
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my future is ruined.
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
There is so many damn things on the list, like why do you need 700,000+ ways to ruin the future
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 month ago
continues
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Yeah since 9/11 at least. Really since Hoover.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 month ago
and this is why my security system will never connect to the Internet.
I’ve had cops ask for my footage before that sneer at me sending them the raw files. “why can’t you just pull up the app?” or my favorite, “you should use ring, then we can just send a request to them for the footage.”
sure, pig. sure. I’ll open my home as a part of your distributed network surveillance botnet. /s
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
It is surprising how difficult most camera companies have made it to avoid their subscription services.
Multiple companies that used to offer local rstp streaming have summarily removed support in firmware upgrades without notifying their customers. Even companies that support it (like Foscam) demand developer agreements be signed to get basic camera command information. Tp-link supports rstp but requires an phone app and Internet connection to configure their cameras.
Like you, I will never connect my cameras to the Internet, but we are slowly approaching a time when that by itself will be a cause for police investigation.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 month ago
and that is when I’ll diy should I need any foss cameras.
cortex7979@lemm.ee 1 month ago
you should use ring, then we can just send a request to them for the footage."
YIKES, thats whats called a weird flex.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
If America is so scared of China, why are we hell bent in becoming China?
vivendi@programming.dev 1 month ago
Something happens Americanly in America
Americans: “What are we, a bunch of üntermench asians???”
Disaster@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
just without the hope in the future, investment in human capital, rise in living standards etc…
roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But we’re doing it for profit, so it’s OK.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 1 month ago
The same reason this administration does all the things they point their finger and accuse everyone else of doing. They’re traitorous scumbags and hypocrites.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Their problem with China is the supposed atheism, and that they’re not christian fundamentalists.
carrion0409@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Not even six months in and we already got the ai surveillance state lol
altphoto@lemmy.today 1 month ago
A few years ago in SanDiego a proposal to install cameras came into being. They said the things were there for meteorology and security. The popo had to get a warrant to use the evidence on a case by case basis.
But soon enough:
www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/…/3703267/
If you don’t want this in your community or state, stand up for it. Say no to speed cameras, license plate readers etc. Those things are what keep Korean people under the government’s thumb:
They carry ponchos and umbrellas even when its not raining. They do it to protect their own against cameras and AI.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Can wait till they ban umbrellas
formulaBonk@lemm.ee 1 month ago
It’d be a shame if anonymous types started working on poisoning all publicly accessible cameras with ai poison pills that brick whatever model you try to run on the footage
GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I read that glow in the dark material will trigger an ir motion sensor. So don’t plant small flags coated with glow in the dark paint across from the cameras because it will cause them to take and send thousands of useless images and make them think their camera is broken.
NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I work in security, including massive video systems. With any unit made in the last 5 years and any software past entry level consumer grade this is a non-issue. Especially if someone is using descriptive visual search when pulling up video vs just scanning through every motion event.
raltoid@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Most of them will trigger from reflected IR. Which is easy to do with some metallic mylar. Those emergency blankets cut into strips should work like a charm.
MangoCats@feddit.it 1 month ago
Or, they’ll just develop downstream garbage filters and effectively ignore the little flags. Sure, some energy will be wasted, but it won’t be occupying too many analyst brain cells.
Source: I have such a setup at home. My camera goes crazy detecting motion in the dark, CPU usage goes up. Main thing I notice? CPU temp rises from 50C to 55C. That’s it.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
While they’re at it, why not just hack the government to reverse last year’s election, amirite?
I know most of us loved Mr Robot and watching dinozzo and abby double team a keyboard and Wolverine getting a blowy and all that fun stuff, but that really isn’t how things work.
These aren’t off the shelf pre-trained models. The model is a big part of the company’s product and, increasingly, the cost of training is being partially offloaded to customers under the guise of “tune the model to your data”.
And IF we have a Bones situation where someone has inscribed a virus onto human remains to destroy a one of a kind machine or whatever: That is what version control is for. “Hmm. The May 2025 model isn’t working. Okay, switch back to April”
formulaBonk@lemm.ee 1 month ago
You watch too much tv. All you need is to degrade the quality of the recorded video on any camera exposed to the public internet enough for ai to have divergent results due to how ambiguous the images captured are. There are thousands of hobby projects that let you browse actual feeds from such cameras and usually that means you can get hardware metadata and in most cases change how the video is recorded by patching the driver running on the already publicly accessed cameras. Why make an exaggerated strawman argument while at the same time pretending you know better than everyone else?
Tikiporch@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Fucking Bones throwback, man! Good one.
Moose@moose.best 1 month ago
Add any that aren’t shown by submitting them to OpenStreetMap.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 month ago
[deleted]throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
“… I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic …”
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 month ago
My residence has a Ring doorbell. I wish that I owned the house, so that it was never installed in the first place.
r0ertel@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I read recently that the lidar on many self driving cars can wreck the CCD on most phones. I don’t know how it works, but maybe parking one of the cars by your front door will solve your problem.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Cheaper to buy a low wattage engraving laser module. It’ll do the deed.
Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Stay strapped
einlander@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Green high powered lasers. Burns the sensors.
GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They use a basic is sensor to trigger the camera, they’re just a cheap trail camera that sends images when motion is detected. You could put a black sticker over the ir sensor and then they would be wondering why it’s not taking photos.
einlander@lemmy.world 1 month ago
True but a laser can disable the camera until it can be replaced.
IllNess@infosec.pub 1 month ago
AI is only looking for the color someone is.
lowleekun@ani.social 1 month ago
Who could have guessed that all the surveilance would be used by fascism? Ohh wait, everybody could have.
Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I think we’ve known this about Ring cameras for awhile now at least. Lowkey I kinda seethe about any neighbors buying that spyware shit. It’s not like the fucking cops give a singular shit about home robberies anyways.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Absolutely. Anything that can be hacked by some uneducated douche is going to be exploited by the government.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But when you do experience a home invasion they will blame you not installing Spyware on your front door for why they won’t bother investigating.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 month ago
The thing is that nobody is fighting it.
DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Americans won’t fight it. Dipshits keep saying that there will be a civil war if things escalate. That will never happend. The Trump protests have been pitiful.
Auli@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
All is a bit of a stretch. I imagine a big chunk of surveillance is privately owned and not even on the network. At least the cast majority I have installed over the years are usually isolated or standalone networks.