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Submitted 10 months ago by distance@sh.itjust.works to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I miss the prevalence of manual transmissions. Every one of my old first beater cars were manuals. But it seems that they’ve been phased out for the most part and it sucks. Driving Automatics isn’t really driving (I’ll die on that hill).
RBWells@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not if you already know how to drive, no. My kid who was motivated to use my car learned easily, and I learned it in a day when the rest of the people I was with were too drunk to drive.
But learning to drive in a new country? And manual at the same time? That seems more difficult. Can you practice here first? Does anyone you know drive stick?
letsgo@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Make sure your driving licence is valid for driving manual in Romania. Here in the UK if you pass your test on an automatic, you’re only licenced to drive automatic, and if you drive manual then you are breaking the law and your insurance is invalid.
Maybe there’s no issue but it’s worth checking.
rabber@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I’m a car guy and learning manual for me was embarrassingly slow. I’m good at it now and my daily is a manual but when I was learning it was a total disaster.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I miss my manual a little bit sometimes, especially for shorter drives it could be fun.
Long drives with frequent speed changes, traffic or hills kinda sucked though. I had a pretty crappy Kia though lol
SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Changing gears is the fun part of hills and speed changes.
The real PITA for manual is stop and go traffic.
starlinguk@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I never minded manual until I got the crappy little Swift I’m driving now. It only seems to respond to swearwords.
MTK@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s really easy, there’s just a few things that you have to remember and there is a bit of muscle memory. I suggest watch a bunch of videos on how to do it properly on YouTube and just practice in a parking lot for like 2-3 hours and you should be completely fine to drive. You might not have cars to practice on where you live, but you might be able to just do it when you get to Romania. Just go for like two hours to practice before you start driving around.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Driving a manual is a bit tricky to start with but minimum practice and you’ll learn everything you need to know. Everything else is experience. Once you’ve driven it for a while, especially through various weather conditions, you’ll find that you have more control of the vehicle when driving a manual stick shift. Even three on the tree makes you more free.
0ops@lemm.ee 10 months ago
If you’re anything like me, you have an easier time understanding how to do things if you understand how they work.
See the clutch in the diagram? The clutch is the part that actually connects the engine to the transmission. Mechanically, it’s almost like a brake but reversed. To keep things simple, the engine side has a disk and the transmission side has a disk. When you press in the clutch pedal all the way to the floor, those disks will be totally separated and the engine can rev however you like because it’s not connected to the rest of the drivetrain. As you release the clutch slowly and smoothly, you’ll feel the clutch “bite”: that’s when the two disks make contact, but it’s very light contact at first so they’ll be sliding against eachother (think of gently applied brakes). The friction will still spin the transmission a little bit though, and if you’re in gear the car will start to roll. As you smoothly release the clutch pedal more and more, the two disks will press into eachother more and more firmly, sliding less and less, until you’ve fully released the clutch pedal and the disks aren’t sliding at all; the engine is totally connected to the rest of the drivetrain.
With most cars I recommend for a first step starting the car rolling on flat ground using only the clutch, no gas. With some cars you might have to give it a little gas, but in my experience most cars have enough idling torque to start from a stop by releasing the clutch very slowly and smoothly, I’m talking like 5 seconds or more to go from clutch fully to the floor and car stopped to fully released and rolling. Once you’ve done that a few times and you’re starting to get a good feel for how the clutch behaves, you can start adding some gas to start more quickly and release the clutch quicker (but still smoothly).
The second thing to know once you’re rolling is that the engine needs to run within a certain rev range, if you let it get too low (below like below idle rpms), you’ll stall, too high and you’ll hit the rev limiter or possibly damage the engine if it doesn’t have one. Knowing that, I think that timing shifts and knowing when to press the clutch becomes pretty intuitive, really all you need to do is press the clutch before the engine gets out of that rev range, shift up or down in the direction that gets you back into it (or maybe into neutral if you’re stopping), and smoothly release.
TL;DR: The clutch connects the engine to the transmission. Press it in to disconnect the engine from the transmission, release smoothly to gradually reconnect. Start out only using the clutch to to get the car rolling, then once you’ve got the hang of that try adding a little gas to get rolling quicker. Shift in a way that the engine is always within it’s rev range, i.e. press the clutch in and begin changing to a more appropriate gear before you start redlining or bogging.
drmoose@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Its pretty easy but takes time just like any machine operation.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
It’s incredibly easy if you have any semblance of finesse with your feet. Rev up the engine, ease off the clutch until the rpms start to dip, then give it more gas and ease off the clutch until you’re fully going.
Before you even mess with the clutch play with the throttle. Get good and holding it at 1500 rpm, 1750 rpm, 2000 rpm etc. throttle management is just as important as the clutch.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s not too bad. You can get passable in a manual with less than a day of practice.
There are a lot of good tips in here, but I’ll add a few that seem to be missing/less prioritized.
Practice rev matching while down shifting. You’ll be a lot more comfortable with the car if you can get into a lower gear faster. This will allow you to pass and accelerate smoother and with confidence.
Practice recovering from a stall (although you’re probably going to do this accidentally anyway). Foot on brake, push the clutch all the way in, shift to neutral or 1st (I prefer 1st to get into gear faster), start the car, and get moving. This process should be fairly automatic and done within a second or two.
On that note, don’t worry about stalling the car. It feels terrible, and embarrassing, but it’s not really damaging the vehicle (might wear out the engine mounts a little faster, but no one really cares).
Most important, have fun!
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Check local driving schools. They might have one.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
If you’re like me then you drive it right away no problem. if you’re like my sister svenika then you will never drive it once
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 10 months ago
hm i think you will need at least lime 3h of controlled practice tp get used to it. My gf learnt to drive automatic and after 3 lessons of 30min, she can barely start moving the car by herself lol.
JustJack23@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Why do you need to drive in the first place?
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, just take their well known public transport system, or take six months and tour the country by bicycle. \s
Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Can’t his boyfriend drive the car
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
It’s really hard, I tried for a while and gave up. Way too many things to pay attention to and get right at once, while doing something dangerous.
CandleTiger@programming.dev 10 months ago
Learning to drive a stick is really easy if you have somebody to teach you well, but waaay too many people are like, “here, keep fucking up until the car doesn’t go anymore or you figure it out, whichever comes first”.
Hardest part is getting the car to start moving from stopped. Changing gears once moving, you can fuck it up a bunch and nothing much happens except funny engine noises and the owner starts making constipated-looking facial expressions. But if you fuck up starting from stopped, then you lurch around a bunch, stall the engine, and don’t go anywhere.
To get started from stopped, without horrible lurches or stalls, do like this FROM A FLAT PLACE – don’t try anything with hills until you can make the car go on the flat first:
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IMPORTANT: adjust your seat so you can easily push the clutch (left pedal) in – all the way to the floor – without uncomfortable stretching
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In your driveway when there’s nobody going to honk at you, start the car, put it in neutral, and practice pushing the gas pedal just enough to hold the engine at 3000 RPM or so. Not making crazy racing noises, just a nice steady “the engine is running normal-fast-ish” and hold it that way. Practice a couple times until your foot and your ear know what it feels like
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Put it in gear without moving – gas off, clutch in and put the car in first gear.
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Gas on, steady at 3000 RPM, slooooooowly let the clutch out until you can just barely feel the clutch is engaged. Engine revs down a little bit, car starts crawling forward. Practice that a couple times, just let the clutch out until it barely starts doing anything, then put it back in, until your foot knows what it feels like.
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Now do it again, engine held at steady revs, clutch out until just barely engaged, then let the clutch out just a little bit more, so the car wants to crawl, and hold the clutch there. Car starts crawling. Keep the engine steady like you’ve been, let the car start crawling, don’t even change anything, just let the car crawl. It will slowly accelerate until you’re moving at some steady 1st-gear speed. Once it’s come up to (slow) speed you can let the clutch out the rest of the way.
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Congratulations you moved a car
x00z@lemmy.world 10 months ago
IMPORTANT: adjust your seat so you can easily push the clutch (left pedal) in – all the way to the floor – without uncomfortable stretching
The person of the driving school who thought me how to drive told me to push in the clutch completely, and put your seat in a way that you would have your knee bent just a tiny bit.
Successful_Try543@feddit.org 10 months ago
practice pushing the gas pedal just enough to hold the engine at 3000 RPM or so. Not making crazy racing noises, just a nice steady “the engine is running normal-fast-ish”
Depending on the type of car, this might usually be somewhere between 1500 and 2000 RPM, 3000 RPM are more typical for a sports car.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
It’s also typical for a Honda fit
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LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 months ago
No more difficult than using a phone while walking, except looking around while doing it is even more important.
zxqwas@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Like riding a bike. If you’ve never done it it’s going to be hard but give it a few hours of deliberate practice you’ll be fine.
And again like with a bike you should probably practice away from traffic to begin with…
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 10 months ago
It’s quite hard for someone who haven’t done it before. It’ll take months if not years of daily driving for you to get good enough that you don’t need to constantly think about it. There’s differences between vehicles too, especially with how the clutch feels. I’ve been driving manual for over 15 years and if I jump into a unfamiliar car it’ll take me a while to get the handle of it as well.
Agitatedpencils@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ve found the hardest part is suddenly having any health issue with major extremities. Broke your finger? Crucial. Broke your leg or foot? Crucial. Having 2 functioning legs and 2 functioning hands is ideal.
thelsim@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I took my driving lessons with a manual, but have been driving automatic for over a decade now.
Whenever I do need to drive a manual, I usually need a while to get used to it again. At those moments I make use of the guidelines that were taught to me by my driving instructor:- Is for getting the car going and getting in or out of a parking spot.
- Is for speeds up to 25 km/h
- Is for speeds up to 45 km/h
- Is for speeds up to 75 km/h
- Is for anything beyond
It’s a simple helper that matches most of the common speed zones in the Netherlands (30, 50, 80). From what I can quickly read, the 80 zone is 90 in Romania, so it should still work?
Anyway, don’t worry too much. It is also nice not having to drive at all if it comes down to that, your boyfriend’s family sounds nice :)
Enjoy your trip!LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not quite that simple. Shifting depends more on rpms, i.e. how hard you’re accelerating. In a typical car if you’re trying to get up speed to get on the freeway 25 is way too soon to shift. I wouldn’t until at least 30.
thelsim@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
It was just a basic guideline being taught to me back then. And I guess it’s mainly for cruising speeds. You might want to stick with a lower gear for accelerating. There are of course all kinds of exceptions. And NL is basically flat, so I don’t know about hills :)
But the km/h list gives me something to fall back on when in doubt. Driving is stressful enough for me as it is.
Horsey@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Visit a AAA location and get an “international drivers permit”. It’s super easy and a good insurance policy for yourself. I highly doubt the police speak much English and aren’t corrupt, so it may save headaches. Also, watch out on neighborhood streets for potholes.
LordCrom@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Take the lesson. While learning, stay off of hills and any upward incline until you got a feel from taking the car from full stop to going in 1at gear.
While learning you will stall the car… Don’t let it bother you.
The trickiest part is learning how to ease the clutch while applying gas to go from full stop to motion forward.
Remember neutral when coming to a stop.
Manuals are great, it’s built in theft protection from like 95 % of people
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
Yea, getting the lesson from Dad is probably a great thing. He’ll enjoy helping, it’s good bonding time, and he’ll have stories for the future!
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
*yeah, not yea or nay. It isn’t a vote.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 10 months ago
otherwise, I can rent an automatic.
You want to double check whether you actually can do that.
Automatics are actually rare there. The kind of rare that turns heads and raises eyebrows.
gnu@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
The basics are easy - half an hour with someone who knows what they"re doing should be all you need to get out and about. Getting to the point where it’s instinctual and you don’t have to think about shifting is probably beyond the limits of a short trip but depending on how much driving you do you can be fairly smooth within a few days.
The main risk you run with learning manual is that once you get the hang of it it spoils automatics for you - you might end up having to buy yourself a manual car to avoid being annoyed by the missteps autos tend to do.
boletus@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Modern autos with cvts are kinda at the point where it is basically magic. They feel like driving a golf kart that can reach 200km/h.
Jayb151@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s like riding a bike. My wife was resistant to stick shift… Then her dad got her a used car that was manual. Almost 20 years later it’s all we’ve owned.
It seems difficult at first, until it’s second nature. And I still make little mistakes here or there like staying in a gear for to long. But once you learn it, it’s super easy.
Like others said, it’s all a dance between pulling out the clutch portal and feeding fuel. I suggest learning exactly where the clutch begins to grip. Once you know where they spot is, it’s much easier to feel how to drive.
Best of luck!
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
“clutch portal”… I’m not really sure where that portal goes… Lol
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 10 months ago
No, but I’ve never driven an automatic
twice_hatch@midwest.social 10 months ago
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