Seen this happen in European countries too, eventhough I despise american fascist pigs
America is fucked
Submitted 11 months ago by genfood@feddit.org to [deleted]
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ihatefascist@lemm.ee 11 months ago
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Nobody more annoying than a German tourist bitching about everything
dellish@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’d say waiting for an ambulance while a loved one dies in front of you just because assholes wouldn’t get out of the way is more annoying. No doubt followed by some health insurance bullshit that makes zero sense in any other country. But no, it’s the tourist who’s wrong.
Crikeste@lemm.ee 11 months ago
There might be somebody… ☝🏼
Gloomy@mander.xyz 11 months ago
It do you know what their mum says about them?
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh look a cyclist bitching about shit
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 11 months ago
i lol’d
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What’s German for “trying too hard?”
easily3667@lemmus.org 11 months ago
In the video right after he says nobody moves out of the way there is someone moving out of the way but he edited the video to remove it.
Disingenuous bullshit.
A7thStone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m amazed you could see that since he edited it out of the video so you couldn’t see it.
easily3667@lemmus.org 11 months ago
It’s literally the thumbnail, fella
AAA@feddit.org 11 months ago
Someone moving out of the way still doesn’t equal everyone moving out of the way. He’s way ahead of them at the end of the video. The point still stands.
easily3667@lemmus.org 11 months ago
Ok then why is the ambulance not passing on the left?
Aux@feddit.uk 11 months ago
To be fair, with the congestion that severe, the ambulance should use helicopters. Like they do here in London.
Quadhammer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not sure you want that with no faa
Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m sure you DON’T want that with no FAA
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Good luck finding a spot to land somewhere close within Manhattan. Unless you happen to have the heart attack next to a car park (or the central park) that also happens to not be heavily used right now there’s hardly any spot to safely land.
in London and other cities it’s less of a problem given we don’t build that many high rise buildings and got more big old market places and small parks.
Woht24@lemmy.world 11 months ago
True, I guess the reality is they are only Americans anyway
Aux@feddit.uk 11 months ago
A chopper can land safely on any road cross. And NY has shit loads of them. Then it’s a 1 minute walk.
3dmvr@lemm.ee 11 months ago
its a whole movie trope that this is an issue in europe because their infrastrucutre doesnt support cars
NightCrawlerProMax@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m not an American but I’ve lived in Washington for years. Every time an Ambulance is moving with its siren on, people move to the side of the road to let it pass. This guy is just inaccurate.
Zess@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But surely this one example is enough to judge an entire country by!
easily3667@lemmus.org 11 months ago
He clipped the video as someone was moving out of the way, too
ZMoney@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Manhattan has gridlock that prevents this. There’s no space to move into.
Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
yup, I was on a street so narrow just a couple months ago that I couldn’t pull over far enough to let a firetruck go by. I had pulled over as far as I could. The truck got behind me and I couldn’t move over. SO I just said “fuck it” - and zoomed into the road as fast as was safe and turned off the road the first place I could find.
PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Eh, feels like he’s playing up the stereotype of the eternal German.
"…WE DON’T DO ZIS IN GERMANY! YOU BUILD HOUSES WITH WOOD? WE DON’T DO ZIS IN GERMANY. YOU DON’T SEPARATE GLASS FROM RECYCLING? BUT WE DO ZIS IN GERMANY!!!
I’m allowed to say that, I’m Germany myself. We are obnoxious and tone-deaf fuckers.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Could just be they talk so damn loud they can’t hear anyone else.
easily3667@lemmus.org 11 months ago
Agreed
Tja@programming.dev 11 months ago
There’s tone deaf and there’s common sense, life saving practices.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
This. I absolutely prefer to be a tone-deaf fucker among tone-deaf fuckers if that means my ambulance arrives timely after someone tried car buttsex at 260 kmh. (162 mph)
What, speed limits? Don’t you dare touch my freedom.
PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I saw this exact same thing yesterday in Cologne Germany but not with one, but two ambulances.
JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As a city dweller I never seen this happen in Germany ever in my life. So not too common at least.
PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Germany is better than most places, but it happens here too. It could be one of those things you only notice when you’re looking for it.
I’ve never seen someone open carry a gun in the US but when you listen to people it sounds like everyone does.
I was a my friends WG (group apartment) and her roommate just got back from the US. She was shocked that the Americans even put sugar in their bread. Something something it’s why they are all fat and unhealthy. I was curious, so got all of the german bread there… And you know what? It all had a higher sugar content than the American bread example.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Absolutely every second for an ambulance matters. Every. Second.
People blocking an ambulance should be punished and made examples of.
easily3667@lemmus.org 11 months ago
Nobody is blocking the ambulance here, there’s literally nowhere to go. Have you never been to a real city before?
albert180@piefed.social 11 months ago
There was plenty of space in the video to move the car out of the way. Maybe you would need to stop for a minute because you're parking close to the curb/car but more than enough for the ambulance to pass
mechoman444@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I live in Atlanta. One of the slowest most congested city’s in America. We hold record to the slowest intersection in the country. In the smallest worst parts of the city we get out of the way for emergency vehicles.
Have you ever been to a real city?
Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There are cities that use medics on motor bikes for this exact reason. They can’t evac someone but getting there quickly to use a defibrillator or control bleeding could make a difference.
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You should see major cities in latin america if you think that’s bad. In many countries it’s like they don’t even care.
seeigel@feddit.org 11 months ago
Why would cities in latin america have excuses?
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Education quality is a tip of the iceberg.
Talk to someone who went to a public school in say the dominican republic. I’ve heard stories of years of kids just waiting around with next to no actual teaching involved from someone who was physically there in their childhood. If you don’t go to a private school odds are you aren’t going to get any real education or structure beyond what you pick up at home… and odds are your parents were in the same boat.
The US education system has been nothing like that, it is going to get like that in the south though.
fucking_polite@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m from Chile and whenever you’re in a jam and an ambulance needs to get through, cars move out of their way to let it through. In Santiago, at least. We also stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross.
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Sure and Santiago is a horrible example. I was just there a few months ago. It feels the most like boston of anywhere else in latin america. When I was in el salvador I thought I was gonna get robbed at the airport, where they pat you down at each departure gate.
The wages are livable, the neighborhoods are safe(mostly), the housing is affordable, the food is terrible (compared to lima anyway.) I couldn’t get enough of the mountains.
FloranceSmith@szmer.info 11 months ago
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
m.youtube.com/watch?v=hwGd3QWgTLs&pp=0gcJCdgAo7Vq…
For contrast: a video of a more congested street in Paris 17 years ago. The situations aren’t completely comparable: bigger emergency vehicle, smaller other vehicles, smaller street with less options to get out of the way, … One other major difference and the reason I’m posting this, is that 30 seconds into the video, you can see that most drivers have moved to the sides of the road AHEAD of the firetruck and that they are holding still while waiting on the firetruck to pass them. The street + path are less than ideal and there isn’t really enough room, so the truck is still not going very fast, but it’s at least able to keep moving. By moving to the sides, the drivers also blocked in that smaller firetruck that was coming from the side street, so that’s going to cause some confusement after the big one has passed.
The reason that that NYC ambulance is completely stuck I’m traffic, isn’t because of space, because there is plenty compared to that Parisian street, but it’s the drivers who are not creating a path. It’s not an infrastructure problem, it’s something that can be taught + encouraged if there is a political will to make a change.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Distracted drivers are a serious problem in more ways than one. A couple weeks ago I was 2nd in line at a red light, only us 2 in that lane and several more in the other. An ambulance drove up behind us flashing and it was immediately clear the shortest path through the intersection was for our 2 cars to clear out. I put on my hazards and starting alternating lights and horn, while the person ahead sat blithely scrolling through their phone while the ambulance and I were both laying on the horn and didn’t move until the light turned green. Even then, didn’t pull aside so the bus had to weave around him. The lack of situational awareness and empathy on the road is sadly lacking.
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, smartphones are a menace as well in traffic, especially when combined with someone as oblivious as in your example :). The government(s) in my country has had several police + information campaigns against smartphone use since a few years. There’s now also a fine of 175 euro + loss of driver’s license for 15 days for using the smartphone while driving in traffic. And waiting in traffic, still counts as driving. If used for navigation, then the destination has to be put in before starting to drive & the smartphone has to be in a holder or connected to the infotainment system.
This heavier punishment is pretty recent and the chance of being caught seems low, so there’s still often people using smartphones inappropriately. Last one I saw this week was an oblivious teenager on a bicycle. It’ll be interesting to see if there’s been a noticable change in a few years.
Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, ok, he’s not wrong, but also, he can f— right off. We don’t need/want foreigners 2 cents, we know it’s fucked, but fuck him. Sorry.
shawn1122@lemm.ee 11 months ago
This comment actually perfectly encapsulates how the US has got to the point that it’s at today.
genfood@feddit.org 11 months ago
Haha, do you mean that for real? I am curious who you are in real life, you seem to be an interesting person.
Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I live on a small 14-acre farm in my parents’ 5 bedroom house. I had some issues and moved back home several years ago, but now I couldn’t leave because there is too much to do, and they are older now and need more help around here.
Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well hell yeah. Who is this German ass hole? Thinks he fucking superior? I think his country and people have plenty of their own issues and bullshit. It was 1 stuck ambulance in NY city, and he’s going to talk all that bull shit about our country?
I’m sorry, but I’m not very patriotic until I see this kinda shit. That German can fuck on back to his own country and act like prick about his own ambulances stuck in traffic.
CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Anyone got a mirror? It would be nice if catbox didn’t block vpn traffic, I’m not disabling my vpn for a meme
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ve seen roads so congested in NYC that they literally cannot get through. Saw a firetruck honk for a solid 5 minutes before getting to move anywhere.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Lol, as if this hasn’t been how it’s always been… These things are for rich people, the rest of us find another way, or you know, die.
SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Where I live in Canada traffic moves for anything with lights(other than a tow truck unless of course they have an EMS escort). We pull up on to sidewalks, curbs, and anything really to clear a path. Heck I’ve seen people put their vehicle into a snow bank pr a ditch to get out of the way. I guess we’re of the mindset that others will do the same for us should we be the ones awaiting EMS to arrive or deliver us to an ER.
cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Looking confused. Why can’t the ambulance go through the small gaps between sidewalk. In my country ambulance drivers drive like its GTA.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
theres people on it? Like regularly?
Also i doubt an ambulance would even fit in most places, chances are it’s going to get stuck, immediately.
cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
v.redd.it/1u707p7uieve1/DASH_720.mp4?source=fallb…
For perspective this is how ambulance zooms past traffic here.
yarr@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Ayyyyy! I’m walkin here!!
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There’s no place for anyone to move to. The congestion is such that you cannot get out of the way. The Van Wyck alone will slow an ambulance to 3-5mph because of traffic. You cannot get out of the way if there’s no place to go!
gerryflap@feddit.nl 11 months ago
There seems to be quite some space there compared to what I’ve seen emergency vehicles use here in the Netherlands. Recently there was one traveling across a pretty narrow bridge and a road that normally allocated 2 cars. The traffic was completely stuck and yet somehow the emergency vehicle got enough space to travel through. It outpaces me while I was racing down the bridge on a bike. That was more crowded and narrow than this. People went everywhere with their car to create a way for the emergency vehicle
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As if the usa is the only country in the world with congested rush hour traffic. I’ve been in streets that were way more tightly packed + chaotic than this and people would still clear a path for vehicles with sirens. The emergency vehicle would only be able to go 20 to 30 kmh without a motorcycle escort, but that’s still significantly faster than what we’re seeing here.
What we’re seeing in this video, is that (some) vehicles that are directly in front of the ambulance move out of the way, but vehicles that are a tiny bit further ahead, don’t even try. If a vehicle that is directly in front of the ambulance can move out of the way, then a vehicle that is 30 places ahead, is also able to move out of the way, but they don’t even try … What should happen is that as soon as drivers hear a siren, they should start looking for where it’s coming from and then clear a path, and drivers should also especially not be driving into the path that others are clearing. Instead it seems like these drivers wait till the siren is right behind them and only then some start to move out of the way.
Looking for excuses in American exceptionalism reads like a case of “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”. This particular problem is something that can be easily improved upon by a public awareness campaign and some light fines for those that keep obstructing after the campaign has been running for some time. But what’s obviously even easier than that, is finding an excuse to continue doing nothing about the problem.
illegible@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Part of the problem is that the “rugged individualism” that America was founded on also equates to entitlement. The last generations that truly had it rough, where a community spirit was important to surviving are dying or gone, and no one has learned their lesson. Yet.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well, I guess you’ve got it all figured out then. Just stupid Americans, right?
echodot@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Yeah but they do actually just stop. If there is a siren anywhere in the area, and everyone just stops driving their car. Even when there is somewhere to go, no one ever does.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah that’s usually at an intersection where the only place to go to is into a red light with crossing traffic. A quick search of laws in the US shows no relief for motorists just because there’s a fire truck behind you trying to get through. If you run the red light to make way you could be ticketed (even though it would be real asshole to issue the ticket), and if someone hits you while you run the red or move into tbe intersection to make way it’s your fault. So there’s a lot of disincentive to move in those cases. Where I live people all move over if they can. Otherwise they stay put to be predictable and let the emergency vehicle use the breakdown lane or oncoming traffic. Worst thing is when people cluelessly start randomly trying to outsmart the ambulance and cause a clusterfuck of cars that nobody can get past. US drivers have fuckall for discipline.
bstix@feddit.dk 11 months ago
There’s congestion in German cities too. The point isn’t to drive away. During rettungsgasse, nobody goes anywhere. They just make way by stopping to the sides.
The problem in NY is that the cars are too big for the lanes to do that.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
The problem in NY is that the cars are too big for the lanes to do that.
the only place available for people to do this is parking lanes and bus/bike lanes.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There are no lanes to move aside into. It has nothing to do with vehicle size or “driving away”. I really don’t know what to tell you, I’ve spent plenty of time in several German cities as well as US cities, the comparison isn’t there. There are no breakdown lanes or shoulders to move into in many places to make room for emergency vehicles. You’re welcome to argue all you want, but I drive in and around NYC regularly so I’m more than familiar.
AlexLost@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Love it!
John@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
But they at least still have ambulance. Wouldnt want to be in the UK while having a heartattack
albert180@piefed.social 11 months ago
If you have an heart attack they are there in ~8 Minutes
Maybe look at the actual data before spewing dumb shit
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/ambulance-response-times
John@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I have family over there and they told me that health system went from one of the best pre brexit to quite bad today with huge waiting times for ambulance.
We may are a bit spoiled by the german health system.
And yes, i know that US have one of the most extensive and worst health systems for a so called first world country.
albert180@piefed.social 11 months ago
Well, maybe your family called for a bullshit emergency.
The wait times for actual life threatening emergencies are low. But the data is public, take a look for yourself. It's the same when somebody complains about long wait times in the ER. If they had to wait a long time, it wasn't an emergency. Simple as that.
Here is a video that explains it to non-medical people how it works
And here the data about ambulance wait times in the UK
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/ambulance-response-times
0ops@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I might as well not have one here in the states, I’m not wealthy enough. My health plan is to walk it off until I die young
khannie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m only across the water in Ireland and I can tell you from experience that ambulances arrive quickly, are free and so is the treatment. The UK health system is measurably better than ours so I feel like this is plucked from somewhere that the sun doesn’t shine.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I feel like this is plucked from somewhere that the sun doesn’t shine.
To be fair, that describes the UK pretty well.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So why not put paramedics on a e-bike, so they can actually arrive at the scene first. It’s not like the patient gets put into the ambulance immediately on arrival. Might as well have someone take care of the patient before the ambulance arrives. Just put a e-bike in the back of the ambulance or rack it on the front.
qarbone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Were all the "ja"s an affectation or do modern Germans just ja that much?
Mandelbrot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Because it’s gridlocked you stupid German.