So can guys like Epstein…
Elon Musk and Taylor Swift can now hide details of their private jets/// Private aircraft owners can now ask the FAA to keep their registration information out of the public eye.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Tea@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-moves-protect-aircraft-owners-private-information
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givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
It’s the same group of people. They’re buddies.
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
And Musk. And Trump.
Demonic74@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
What’s the difference?
potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This doesn’t do anything, all these aircraft are already in trusts.
CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is actually most helpful to the little guys that own $20,000 airplanes.
I have a small airplane and it’s always bothered me that my name and address are publicly accessible through the FAA registry.
Most pilots I know are careful about photos they publish online showing their tail number printed in large bold letters on either side of the aircraft. This registration number can be entered into websites like flightaware.com and someone is literally two clicks from seeing my full name and home address.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
If you own your own home, anyone can get your full name through property records. Is this really that different?
ChaoticCookie@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Can you take me for a ride on your plane?
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why would you want to hide that information? As long as planes use public skies everyone should be identified. Thats like the very basics of every security operation.
Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Anyone who isn’t rich in America can go fuck yourself is what they’ve been saying for a while in words and actions
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oddly, millionaires aren’t really the middle class. House’s in California routinely cost more than a million dollars. And a lot of people probably have a million dollars of retirement in one form or another. (Pensions have a value that very often tops a million). The middle class you are describing (athletes and pop stars) probably are more like 100 million or something. We just don’t have a good name for that.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 weeks ago
What the “middle class” can afford has changed quite a bit in the last few decades. Owning a home is arguably “upper class” at this point. The median US income was only $80k in 2023. Pentions are also getting increasingly rare. What used to be considered middle class is now struggling to get by. Middle class is defined by the income of the middle third of the population, not by a particular lifestyle.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bourgeoisie is what they are called. Wealthy people without an aristocratic tile and not part of the ruling class.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
millionaires are way above middle class, middle class is usually around depending on area, is 100k.year. millionaires are way above that.
falcunculus@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
You’re missing their point, they’re saying from the point of view of those in power millionaires are middle class.
Although there are some that distinguish a “managerial class” that is in-between the middle class and the billionaires : people like CEOs and such, with net worth in the tens of millions but who are not those who benefit the most from the system and are culturally distinct. I think it’s a useful concept personally, as their interests aren’t necessarily the same as the owner class but they still have a lot of political power.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I hope a traffic controller guides Elon’s jet into the tarmac.
Lawnman23@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
even better, accidentally into trumps airforce one.
GluWu@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
How about drones? If you don’t want all of your information avaible online and don’t want remoteid to directly tell anyone and everyone where you live you can request not to do any of that stuff, right? Oh no, this is just for rich people flying in private jets that can transport humans and tons of cargo.
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
It’s also for middle class people flying around in single-engine bug smashers
Petter1@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Elon now can more easily buy his specialK, lol
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
all that premium cocaine from columbia.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Paparazzi can become useful by simply being the ones reporting the plane movement as they follow them around in person.
WhatSay@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
And then when their anonymous airplanes crashed into each other, the world felt conflicted about it.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 weeks ago
Oh no that would be so sad. Please no.
cute_noker@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
Putin loves this simple hack
revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Honestly, I think this will be a bigger boon to folks like Elevated Access than to the billionaires of the world. Makes it a little harder for some chud who doesn’t like what they’re doing to show up at a pilot’s home with a rifle.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Glad to hear there is a caveat to this
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m not sure I’d ever put TS in the same sentence with that Nazi gremlin.
474D@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
She may not be as bad but she’s still a billionaire who rides her private jet everywhere on a whim contributing more to climate change than thousands of people will in multiple lifetimes and was included in the Panama Papers.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
the joke about her being extremeliy vexatiously litigious around her music too.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 weeks ago
She still has the carbon footprint of a small country.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No. Ethical. Billionaires.
Every day she wakes up and chooses not to solve homelessness in Tennessee.
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
She’s more like Elon than any of us will ever be
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
many people tried to astroturfed she dint come from money,. she literally came from an upper middle class upbringing bordering wealthy. her family moved her to tennessee so she looks “poorer” than she is to her fans.
OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
This is sort of like the depreciation tax benefit for private jets from the Trump tax cuts. I get it, I do, I just don’t care for the government offering extra help for the types of people in this scenario. Let them manage with their billions.
thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
If not for the billionaires, why do governments exist?
Huh… Recent context has really ruined jokes like this…
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Well then…
As a #SovereignCitizen, I will not comply with FAA drone laws 😏
Bonus points: Y’all can use an app called Rattlegram to convert a sting of text into audio that can be played over amateur radio. And if you encrypt the text beforehand using encryption tools such as Secure Space Encryptor (known as Paranoia Text Encryption on iOS), or Open PGP (both are open source), before pasting the ciphertext into Rattlegram (also open source), you have encrypted off-grid communications.
This is #Murica! The president can ignore laws. So can we. 😎
PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 3 weeks ago
AI can still track these fools. Thanks deepseek.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I don’t know why you people all think AI has some magical capabilities. Tracking which aircraft is owned by whom isn’t exactly a complex task if you have the raw data of flight movements (needed for ATC and otherwise independently tracked by plane spotters,…) and people movements.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Luckily the FAA has no power in europe
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
TBH we’ve been able to keep website registration info private for years, and privacy is such a big thing now, why not.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Aircraft are sort of expensive and they can cause large scale damage to the public. At a certain point, the public has a right to know who a plane belongs to.
If they want privacy, they can reregister their planes to an LLC. Having Congress pass this loophole was just Musk’s way of flexing his power over the legislative body.
0x0@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
the public has a right to know who a plane belongs to.
Why? This “right to know” is pitchfork mentality, really. If something happens the authorities can handle it and only they should have that kind of access, not John Doe. Not all who own planes are millionaires (those probably do register to an LLC).
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Aircraft are sort of expensive and they can cause large scale damage to the public
Sounds like carefully worded groundwork for abolishing online anonymity. Computers are cheap and can cause large scale damage to the public.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Precisely.
I’m no fan of random billionaires, but I’m a huge fan of privacy.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is a good thing for us normal humans. More privacy is always a good thing. Let it spread further…
TheFogan@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
This is a good thing for us normal humans. More privacy is always a good thing. Let it spread further…
I mean do we have any reason to expect it to travel further? The system made a few billionares feel uncomfortable, now they don’t feel uncomfortable, the law isn’t going to expand.
If a face tracking or car tracking system were to go live. Billionares would find a way to exempt themselves from it, but make sure it was live for everyone else. The reason there aren’t exceptions made for this rule, are because there’s not a whole lot of poor private plane owners.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This isn’t restricted to billionaires. It will benefit others as well.
tacobellhop@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
These two are the least of out worries now.
Imagine this law in like 1999
stucljr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s just awesome 😬😬😬😬
SavageCoconut@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I undertands Musk’s, but why do we hate taylor swift now?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
It’s mostly about how she uses flights. It’s a waste of energy and a big contributor to pollution when they are taking a whole ass jet for about 5 people to go 30 miles.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Don’t they also charter their planes when they aren’t being used?
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
There 👏 are 👏 no 👏 good 👏 billionaires 👏
Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
mostly because shes been promoting what her fans believe, and now she seen as a hypocrite for that. she did. hers a little more complex.
TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wait! Think about the children! What if we need to track pedophiles!?
SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Only poor antifascist trans people are pedophiles dummy. /s
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You mean Republicans? Yeah they won’t allow that, silly
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The pedophiles are in power, except “real pedophilia is when the gays do it”.