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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨avidamoeba@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

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  • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    30-day battery life

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    • rImITywR@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Does it use just standard watch bands? It looks like it, but I didn’t see it mentioned.

      One of the things I find ridiculous about other smart watches is that they use proprietary bands. When I found out that people are paying $60+ for a silicon band for an Apple watch, it blew my mind. Also that people put screen protectors or cases on their Apple watches because their $500+ watch doesn’t even have a crystal lens, and is prone to scratching.

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      • Pfhortune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, the announcement blog post states they use standard 22mm watch bands, as the original Pebbles did.

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      • junkthief@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is that typical? I guess Apple sells watch bands at that price, but I’ve never bought a $60 Apple branded watch band. With the ubiquity of Apple Watches it’s not hard to find inexpensive Apple Watch bands even if they are proprietary. I don’t think that’s the case for other smartwatches, though.

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    • hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Bangle.js is around too.

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    • SoulSkill@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Open Source “OS” ? Did they intentionally forget a statement or two around someone else’s IP ?

      Anyone of the github contributors care to explain what their repo is about and it’s recent README commit: github.com/pebble-dev/pebble-nonfree

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      • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Likely binary blobs from vendors like Debian non-free-firmware.

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  • RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m pretty excited about this; my Pebble Time was the best watch I’ve even owned - smart or otherwise.

    That said, I don’t think I’m going to be preordering this given how badly the last Pebble Kickstarter went. For those who weren’t around at the time, Pebble (whose CEO is behind this venture) built his whole business around Kickstarter. The first 2 generations were wildly successful, but for the third generation they massively overextended themselves trying to get hardware into mainstream retailers, prioritised building stock for retail channels (because contracts) and ran out of cash before shipping for the majority of backers who had bankrolled this whole thing. Eventually everyone who hadn’t had their orders fulfilled got a refund, but that was only because FitBit decided to buy them. Eric seems like a nice guy and great at the technology - and I’m not saying that I could run a business any better - but I think I’ll wait until there is stock on hand for me to buy outright before I hand over my cash

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    • Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      From their FAQ, emphasis mine:

      You shouldn’t get one if…

      You need a perfectly polished smartwatch. This project is a labour of love rather than a startup trying to sell millions of watches. There may be some rough edges (literally). Things will get delayed. Some features will not be ready at launch. Things could break. Things could not last as long as you’d like. The only thing we can guarantee is that it will be awesome and a lot of fun! Every time you look down at your watch, you will smile

      So yeah, I’d say your take is pretty accurate. At least they’re honest lol

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      • RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My concern isn’t that things will get delayed, it’s that I’ll give them my money and get nothing in return

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He also screwed a lot of the employees on the way out from Pebble, and he also bailed on Beeper the minute it got complicated. Sold it to Matt Mullenweg a year or two after getting pimp-slapped by Apple because he had no real plan for what to do if Apple started banning the devices he was using as Matrix bridges.

      I have personal experiences with Beeper that make me less than trust Eric Migicovsky, and I really don’t think he seems like a “nice guy.” He actively sucks, doesn’t have plans for sustainability and then sells it all off to someone else at a personal profit while the people doing the actual work get fucked out of a job.

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      • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Beeper is an instant messenger software that enables using a variety of chat services and protocols all from the same application. It was created in 2020 by Eric Migicovsky, Brad Murray and Tulir Asokan

        On December 5, 2023, the company released Beeper Mini, an Android app that can send messages through Apple’s iMessage instant messaging service.

        Beeper Mini was downloaded more than 100,000 times within two days of launch. After the release, Apple repeatedly blocked Beeper Mini from sending messages through iMessage, and Beeper updated the app multiple times to circumvent Apple’s blocks.[18] On December 21, 2023, Beeper issued its last update to Beeper Mini, which requires users to access an iOS or macOS device to enable the app to send messages through iMessage.[20]

        That timeline is crazy. It’s a chat app for years. It breaks into iMessage and gets crazy downloads. Then 16 days later they’ve given up. Four months later he sells the whole thing.

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      • Wigglytuff@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What’s the gist of your “personal experiences with Beeper”?

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    • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yep im also going to wait til its out to make a judgement call.

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      • Master167@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ditto, even though I’m in the market to replace my smartwatch since the buttons fell off.

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  • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am wearing my OG Kickstarter Pebble right now, 12 years and still getting 8 days battery out of it.

    I think I will be getting a new Core Time 2

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    • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wow, mine died years ago.

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      • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It has the screen tearing issue, which can’t be fixed because it is one of the original ones which are glued together.

        I have to have it on the analogue watch face so the screen refreshes every second. But it has outlasted the 4 other watches I tried.

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    • hardcoreufo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have a few times I rotate through. can’t wait for some new hw

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  • lostbit@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    too bad its a US based company

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  • CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why would they choose to name the watch “Core 2 Duo” when that’s the name of an Intel processor? And why are both watches a “2” variant? They need a new marketing person.

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    • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And why are both watches a “2” variant?

      Because this is the next generation of the original Pebble watches.

      Core 2 Duo
      I’ll actually be surprised if this makes it to launch without Intel perhaps making a few legal calls and prompting a device name change.

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      • rImITywR@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The most recent Intel Core 2 Duo was discontinued in 2008. I doubt Intel would be able to convince anyone that this is a competing product or would cause any customer confusion. No one is going to be looking for a low end processor from over a decade ago and accidentally buy a watch.

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      • SeaJ@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wouldn’t this be the fourth generation? Pebble Time was the second generation and Pebble 2 was the third generation.

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    • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      when that’s the name of an Intel processor?

      It’s totally a reference to that, it has to pretty much… Why? Idk, nostalgia?

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      • MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The two colours of the first Intel MacBook by Apple, which had Core 2 Duo processors…

        Quite an hommage indeed

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    • ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was my first thought as well. “Intel gonna sue somebody.”

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    • _____@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Core 2 Duo is also a terrible name from Intel in the first place. I did place my repebble order, hopefully it will serve me well.

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  • Redex68@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait, the basic version has a compas and barometer without a heart rate monitor, but the more expensive one has a heart rate monitor and no barometer or compass? Why?

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    • taanegl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because that’s the feature people actually want. The biggest use of these watches is having an active heart rate monitor, as evident by even most of the cheaper watches having them.

      Pebble is now playing a gambit, whereby they think they will sell more of the premium model to people who will be using it for exercise and health reasons.

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      • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Pebble is now playing a gambit, whereby they think they will sell more of the premium model to people who will be using it for exercise and health reasons.

        There’s an explicit line in their site that says these are not made to be fitness trackers, and that garmin are good for that (or some other brand, can’t remember). It would be very odd to say that if it was their target.

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      • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because that’s the feature people actually want. The biggest use of these watches is having an active heart rate monitor, as evident by even most of the cheaper watches having them.

        Seriously, even my $30 PineTime has a heart rate monitor.

        I’ve never once used a compass on my watch, mostly because the phone it’s attached to is a much better compass and even has its own barometer built-in. Plus it’s a pain to use a compass on a watch because you have to hold your whole arm up.

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    • tree@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He wasn’t going to add compass because most people don’t use it, but then he added it to the Core 2 Dou as a favor to a friend who helped on that version and wanted a compass in it.

      www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/…/migw1ct/

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  • vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For anyone looking for a similar device in the interim (long battery, open source) the PineTime is a great device.

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    • felbane@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is neat but the selling point for me with the Pebble is the e-ink display. If repebble fails though, my next watch will be a Pine. Hopefully my Versa 2 holds on for a bit longer 🤞

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      • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        it’s an “e-paper” display, which annoyingly is nothing like an e-ink display. it’s an LCD with a memory chip in it. the bangle.js also has one.

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      • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You should just get one anyway. It’s $30.

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    • AliasVortex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Got a PineTime for Christmas and so far been very pleased with it. I found the PineTimeStyle watchface and it’s been a bit like coming home to Pebble, but I do miss the wide array of watchface choices and effortless customization.

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      • vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I missed out on the 1st gen pebble but had a buddy who loved his. Y’all may be talking me in to checking this new one out.

        And agreed on the pine faces. I’ve been of half a mind to learn how to make them so I could have more variety.

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  • mac@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If it’s open source, could someone potentially develop an app for it to control devices in home assistant? Would love to be able to control my room lights from my watch, and don’t think it’s possible on my Xiami watch fit 3 connected to gadgetbridge.

    I recognize that there would also need to be work done in the app to support this as the watch only supports BLE

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    • pipe01@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There are a couple already, e.g. github.com/Willow-Systems/pebble-home-assistant

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      • mac@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Lol, fml. Guess I’m buying a Repebble.

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      • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No way! That’s awesome, I will absolutely be checking that out

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s open source.

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  • mac@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Price seems kinda steep for a device that doesn’t have sleep/SpO2/Stress and HRV tracking capabilities

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    • TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am wondering/hoping if another company will step up and make a PebbleOS based watch with these capabilities.

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    • poke@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As someone very excited for this watch, the battery life with an always on display is more important to me than a sp02 sensor (Btw it will do sleep tracking). That and the button navigation are the killer features. The watch shows me what I need to know when I need to know it, always has the time on, and I can navigate it and control media playback without having to look at it (since buttons are consistent). I want a smart watch to be a good watch first then being smart is the second priority, and the pebble is the only watch I’ve ever had that gets those priorities right for me. Every other smart watch I’ve used sacrifices something I value to fit more features that I dont value as much. The pebbles have just gotten it right for me.

      That said, the watch also isn’t for everyone, and a lot of people are OK charging their watch every day if it means they also get every feature they want.

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      • mac@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Regarding charging - I charge my huawei watch fit 3 (that I got for like $150) every 2 weeks or so

        I probably will end up getting the pebble as it appears I can interact with it on home assistant. Rough that I may have to wait till December though, it looks like

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  • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anyone remember the screen tearing issue that fucked basically 100% of screens from pebble? I remember.

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    • harrybo93@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I went through every single pebble that came out and never had this issue…maybe I got lucky?

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      • Hazor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It was really only the OG Pebble and the Steel. It was resolved by using a different screen connector in the Pebble 2 and Time.

        I’ve had multiple OG’s over the years and each have developed the tearing issue. It’s a fairly easy fix if you’re comfortable opening electronics.

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  • Mexigore@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Only thing missing is NFC. If it had it I would get it in a heart beat

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    • geography082@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This

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  • lipilee@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    as much as I loved the original Pebbles (and love the design of these too), I think basically the world has moved on… for this kind of money, I am buying a Garmin watch with GPS, HR, etc. but I hope there will be a group of enthusiasts and wish all the luck to the company with sales. more options are always better :)

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I haven’t moved on. Pebble Time Steel was the best watch I’ve ever had. I’ve been using Fitbit since the death of Pebble and they never got as good as Pebble was. If Repebble hadn’t shown up, I’d probably be going Garmin after the inevitable death of Fitbit. But now that the choice is between Garmin and a hackable open source Pebble with 30 days of battery life… Repebble wins for me. ☺️

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      • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fitbit was pretty bad. My wife had it and after the 3rd rma she just didn’t bother anymore.

        I have a PineTime now and she basically claimed it as her own so I’m back to wearing analog watches.

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    • Hazor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No moving on here. I still wear a OG Pebble daily, and I’m super excited about this. I just wish they hadn’t chosen ‘Core 2 Duo’ like it hadn’t been the name of another product…

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was thinking of getting this but the focus is mainly for fitness. I think a garmin would be better for my purpose though because I honestly don’t know what I would do with this watch

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    • dance_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah for the same price as the color option you could get a Garmin Vivoactive​ on a sale.

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    • embed_me@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Idk if garmin allows you to download your data in an easily accessible format but I would expect Pebble to do it and I expect a nice ecosystem of user-created apps based on that

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  • badbytes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That price tag though. 👎

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  • pigup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How does this compare to pine64? I want a privacy focused watch if at all possible

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    • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have a PineTime running through Gadgetbridge, and a Pebble Time Steel with Rebble services. You can pair the Pebble with Gadgetbridge and run it that way, and I imagine these new Core watches would operate similarly… But we will find out as time goes on.

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    • blandfordforever@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m with you on this. If it could come with a privacy-respecting smartphone app hosted on F-Droid, that would be so great.

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      • mac@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Gadgetbridgr supports pebble

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  • kane@femboys.biz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is a blast from the past

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  • noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wish them the absolute best of luck and hope they stay firmly in their niche.

    I’ll be sticking with my mechanical and dumbquartz watches personally, got more than enough gadgets by now…

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just pre-ordered one, but the price made me wince 😬

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  • spamspeicher@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    IDon’tNeedAPebbleIDon’tNeedAPebbleIDon’tNeedAPebbleIDon’tNeedAPebbleIDon’tNeedAPebbleIDon’tNeedAPebble

    Aaand preordered. The Pebble Steel was one of the best smartwatches I’ve ever had. I loved that thing and I’m still pissed that I sold the steel a few years ago.

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Absolute best. None of the Fitbits I’ve had were better. None of them detect when I’ve woken correctly in order to enable/disable notifications.

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  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How are they allowed to give it the exact same name as an Intel CPU line?

    I’ve got a Core 2 Duo around here somewhere…

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    • Biscuit@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honestly, makes me want it more. Are our brains broken?

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  • Pondis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I really wanted a Pebble when they first came out, and then REALLY wanted one when they were selling for next to nothing when FitBit bought the company.

    I love a smart watch, but hate the daily charging. Im currently wearing a fossil hybrid which has an eink screen under the hands, and I love that it lasts 30 days on a charge, but wish it did more.

    So I ordered a Core 2 Duo. I might still cancel the order before December, but no other watch does what I want, and this is the closest.

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  • chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Man I might have to get one of these…I don’t mind my FitBit, but since being gobbled by Google, I don’t need another data point for Google to feed off.

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  • Oberyn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ꝏꝏ love the white one . That watch faceeeeee 🤍🤍

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  • AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did they add a heart rate monitor? I know the originals didn’t have them. Otherwise Pebble was the perfect smartwatch.

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    • Yuper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, on the more expensive version.

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  • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I kinda wanted a Pebble for a while, might as well get one now

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  • moonburster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was really excited, but the price is steep compared to the Garmin watches. I currently own an instinct 2. That one gets me between 15 to 18 days of battery and that’s in winter time. In the summer it is longer due to the small solar panel in it. I guess I’ll wait for the reviews and take some nights of sleep on them

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  • dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My GearS3 finally kicked it, after 8 years, and my other watch is even older than that, so the more premium rePebble is actually quite appealing. If i decide to get an update, i’m still debating looking at something like the Garmin Vivoactive though

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