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• Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Emulated games are free, polished, complete

  Modern games are $80+ steaming incomplete pile of shit

  This mystery will never be solved.

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  • MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I assume they’re referring to actual hardware. I’d imagine the percentage of gamers playing emulated games is much higher than 14%.

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  • finkrat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Modern games: requires $300+ game console or a $300+ GPU to get 30 FPS

    Retro games: runs on your grandma’s Dell Pavilion still running Windows XP that she refuses to stop using

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• Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Does emulation count?

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  • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It should! It’s allowed me to play so many games that are hard to find or expensive these days.

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  • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The survey question seems to make it seem like it’s referring to original hardware, but I imagine a lot of respondents didn’t limit it that way.

    With emulation being common even officially these days (NSO, emulated games on Steam, etc), I think it’s fair to factor that in as well.

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I still own my real SNES from circa-1995, but I’d rather play on an emulator than put wear and tear on it, so yes.

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  • whotookkarl@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes, the survey summary below shows no exceptions for physical hardware vs emulation in the question

    …consumerreports.org/…/Consumer_Reports_AES_May_2…

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    • samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The percentage should be way, way higher, then, since lost of people use the emulators on Nintendo Switch Online.

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Only if you use an emulator released before the year 2000.

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• CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Given that nowhere in the article does it say that 14% of people exclusively play on pre-2000 hardware I don’t find this that surprising.

  I’m more shocked by the last statistic, 11% of American households still use fax. Fax? Fuckin’ why? That’s like saying people still listen to music on Edison cylinders.

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  • whotookkarl@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Signatures as a form of authorization I think held up the facsimile tech way past it’s best by date

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  • nickhammes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Fax is commonly used at least in the US because it has regulatory recognition as a secure means of transferring information, it’s highly interoperable, and it doesn’t really have a successor that has caused the network effect to die out entirely.

    11% seems slightly higher than I’d expect, but not crazy. Contracts, medical records, interactions with the government are all good reasons to need to send or receive one occasionally. That about 1 in 10 households did last year? Makes some sense.

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Seems crazy to me. I can’t imagine that 1 in 10 household even have fax machines. All the stuff you mention is business and medical stuff. Nobody faxes in their medical requests from home.

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  • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    According to American Dad! widespread continued use would have gotten us the blorfer.

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  • Carrot@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I give my fax number to anything that asks me for a phone number. It’s a valid number that can’t recieve calls, meaning when my number is inevitably leaked/purchased by telemarketers, scammers, etc. I don’t even notice.

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• tiramichu@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “Still” is completely the wrong term here.

  A good chunk of the people playing on retro systems never even owned half the systems back in the day which they have collected now. Or they might be new people getting into the hobby who perhaps weren’t even born when those systems were current.

  People can’t “still” be doing something that they were NOT doing before!

  Such a strange way to phrase it, for a hobby which is more popular now than it ever was.

  So it’s tot

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  • doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s true and I love the newcomers. But my NES and N64 were both purchased at release and are still one-owner. And used regularly. I also have a 4070ti but I love those old systems.

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  • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    People can’t “still” be doing something that they were NOT doing before!

    An individual cannot but a group of people can.

    “Children are still fascinated by sticks” is as true as always, even though the individual children have mostly grown up, grown old, and died.

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  • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Being able to actually play neo Geo games would make young me so envious Also the full arcade version of games with a button for “insert coin”.

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• capuccino@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I hate this >:( Let me exaplain myself. What I hate is that way that people see videogames, like, if you play something old you are stuck in the past, but hey! If you read a book that is 100yo or watch a movie that is 40yo it is okay! but if you play in atari, what are you? a caveman?

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That stigma seems to be getting slightly better, but it’s always bothered me.

    “OMG you’ve been playing that game for hours! Why don’t you go DO something! You’re rotting your brain!!” -Someone who’s about to sit in front of the TV until they fall asleep.

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I just openly laughed right at them when I was told that, especially because my dad was no longer able to keep up with my math homework by the seventh grade.

      These days I’m out on my own, with a house and a fiancée, still play video games as a primary hobby, and he’s a Trump voter in a shitty apartment that doesn’t talk about anything except crying about all the n[REDACTED]s and transes. One of us sure rotted his brain and I’m pretty confident saying it probably wasn’t me.

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    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What I hate is that way that people see videogames, like, if you play something old you are stuck in the past

      I must not operate in those circles. I’ve never heard that before, but I’m also old and playing old games and fewer newer ones.

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    • ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’m kind of mixed on that depending on the game. In general I say I’d rather the kids play a game than watch a show because it’s interactive rather than just pushing mush into their face.

      The other side though is how so many games (most notoriously mobile ones) are so keyed into scratching those little itches to keep someone playing for way longer than should be healthy.

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• lemmyng@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Just because a game is old doesn’t mean it’s not fun. How old are the board and card games again?

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  • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hell, chess is huge right now, and it’s over 1500 years old.

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    • Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Don’t forget Backgammon. World’s oldest board game!

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• theangryseal@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’ve been playing Zombies Ate My Neighbors on original hardware today haha. On my old Apple color monitor.

  I mostly game on old systems or my steam deck.

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  • hardcoreufo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Oh man such a great game. Great couch co-op.

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    • theangryseal@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah I tormented my poor daughter with it when she was younger. I did not have the patience to get her through it lol.

      Now that she’s older we do great.

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• einlander@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The PS1, N64, Saturn, and the Dreamcast are pre 2000 systems.

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• JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I wonder how many people “still” drive cars “released” before 2000?

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• Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  My wireless snes controllers just came in yesterday. Love em.

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• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I really need to get around to buying a SNES. I have an NES as well but it’s dead. eBay the best spot to get either of these consoles?

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    My brother and I have opposing views on this.

    He likes to collect hardware. He loves buying old systems and cartridges.

    I like to collect software. Very few games are worth much to me individually, but I love the ability to fire up any old game when it pops in my head.

    I ended up buying an SNES Mini on eBay that was jacked and loaded with ROMs from EVERY system it was capable of running. I understand wanting the original hardware, but for me, getting EVERYTHING preloaded for about $200 just made more sense for me.

    I have bought two of those hacked systems from the same seller. I can check if they still offer them, and share a link to the product, but only if someone asks for the info. I’m not trying to promote anyone, but I feel like this is a market that could be prone to fakes, and I personally would appreciate someone suggesting a trustworthy seller.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Do that, but get a Raspberry Pi and put ROMs on it yourself instead of buying shady, possibly backdoored stuff.

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m still trying to find a place that can resurrect my Atari 7800.

    I have so many games for it.

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    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Same, but a 2600. A hand me down from one of my older cousins

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  • maxprime@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I look on local classifieds. But a lot of people inflate the price.

    I picked up an SNES junior for $50 at a garage sale a few years ago. Finds like that are rare but they do exist.

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  • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If you have the money for it and really want to go hardcore into the scene, you might look into an FPGA like the Super-nt. They typically aren’t like all of those emulation boxes out there, compatible with real SNES cartridges and accessories but don’t have to worry about the issues with aging hardware and works mostly native with modern TVs/etc. It’s very expensive, but it’s also definitely very cool.

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• BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Source: timeextension.com/…/14-percent-of-north-americans…

  References this site: consumerreports.org/…/holding-on-to-physical-medi…

  Actual data here: …consumerreports.org/…/Consumer_Reports_AES_May_2…

  Actual question references "Classic videogame systems that came out before 2000, like the NES or GameBoy " of which 14% responded yes out of a group of 2022 surveyed in North America (demographic details available in link).

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  • CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Does it in anyway phrase the question to reference real hardware or original versions?

    I feel like a lot of people emulate (including using Nintendo Switch Online) or play modernized remixes of titles like Super Mario 99

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    • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Full text is ‘Below are some types of visual media that some might consider old or outdated. Which, if any, have you used in the past year?’ and that is an item on the list, it’s not an incredibly detailed survey.

      I will say from the rest of the survey responses, the demographics they’ve selected seem to lean more technically competent and security focused than I’d expect.

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• Visstix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That… doesn’t sound right. 14% is a ridiculous amount of people.

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  • everett@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Full survey data. That’s far from the only stat that’s hard to believe.

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• dan69@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  🫡

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• SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Come on, Call of Duty is not that old! /s

  The problem is people keep buying new versions of the same games released around 2000.

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• ekZepp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Playing retro games from my Steam Deck

  65d-4235611398

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  • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Playing FF7 on my Steam Deck with the old school PS1 loading screen chefs kiss

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• maxprime@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  My 3080ti is mostly used for snes and n64 emulation.

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• AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Red Alert 2 on a 4090

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• Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I care more about the backups of my ROM collection than I do about my tax returns or resume or other “important” crap.

  If I can’t just decide to replay Mario 2 or Simon’s Quest or Chrono Trigger or Symphony of the Night when I’m in my 70s, then what is all this fancy technology we’ve invented really good for?

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• JoeKis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I mean you OWNED the games after purchase back then, now the publishers and game studios can revoke your “purchased” license anytime…

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• demizerone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I do. I don’t want or need top notch graphics. My ps5 collects dust.

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• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Games don’t exist beyond the 1980-1999 filter on Gog, tbh.

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• HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Does software count?

  I’m knee deep in Caesar II and Total Annihilation campaigns

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  • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There’s not a lot of video games that don’t have software.

    You’d have to back to what, Pong? I see Monaco GP from 1979 listed as one of the last TTL-based games from Sega, but not sure about other companies.

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    • HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I should’ve just said PC, I don’t know what I was thinking

      My brain must have just frozen when I was trying to think of a word in the absence of console

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