Can you eat soap for acid reflux?

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If your heartburn lasts more than 24 hours, please, please, PLEASE go see a doctor.

  I did not. I fought unrelenting heartburn for 5 days. In fairness, it did start 3 days after Thanksgiving, and I DID have the extra plate of sweet potatoes. Antacids did nothing, Pepto did nothing.

  On the 5th day, the burning pain moved into my upper arms, which I did not know was a thing, and in the center of my chest it felt like I had a chunk of rock, pulling down on all my innards.

  Advice nurse sent me to the ER, ER used a simple blood test to confirm the heart attack, but by day 5 the damage was done and the only fix was full blown open heart surgery.

  Doc explained the heavy feeling was my heart only pumping out 30% of what it should be, and that’s right on the line of walking around, talking to people and no longer walking around, talking to people.

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But isn’t heartburn all about stomach acids? How is that related to the heart? After all, these are two completely separate organs.

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    • adhocfungus@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Heartburn is a type of pain usually caused by acid reflux, but can be mimicked by a heart attack.

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    • XTL@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Both are a kind of chest pain. It doesn’t really get felt in a single spot.

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• Deestan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  While technically feasible with pure soap (which is lye fully reacted with food grade oil/fats), the stuff you find in stores will have stuff like:

  • Conditioner
  • Perfume
  • Coloring

  All of which are likely to cause irritation on your intestines and worsen the overall acid flux experience.

  If you need to do this experiment for some reason, make sure you know exactly what is in it.

  Fun fact: Old timey cheap industry soap (plain tallow and lye) used to be popular with rats and mice.

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The better replacement is baking soda. Mix a tablespoon in a glass of water, chug. It’s gross at first, but it will annihilate heartburn.

  Be warned! The reaction’s byproducts are H2O and CO2, and the reaction doesn’t end in your stomach. Be prepared to expel gas out one end and water out the other.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No! A teaspoon max.

    DO NOT INGEST A TABLESPOON OF BAKING SODA.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Don’t normally have acid reflux, but last night I hit a tablespoon, three times over the night. Yes, that’s quite a bit.

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  • mrcleanup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The burp let’s you know it’s working, and who couldn’t benefit from extra hydration?

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  • sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I love doing this. It’s like an elementary school science project in my tummy.

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  • Hoimo@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You’ll notice the gas, but the water comes from the acid being neutralized and won’t really be detectable. You just drank a glass of water too, that’s way more water than a tablespoon of baking soda can produce.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The H2O comes from the reaction.

      NaHCO₃ (baking soda) + HCl (hydrochloric acid) → NaCl (sodium chloride) + H₂O (water) + CO₂ (carbon dioxide)

      Water is created. Now pass that through your entire digestive tract full of HCl. Now H20 pops up, uh, where it’s not normally in the pipeline. Does that make sense? You now have water where your guts weren’t prepared to process it?

      In any case, I shit straight liquid if I have to do this trick.

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• Nomecks@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  According to my allergist, acid reflux is one of the most common allergy symptoms. Might want to get checked.

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Acid reflux? I can confirm being fed soap doesn’t even fucking cure potty mouth.

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• pcr3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Don’t eat soap.

  Just keep extra anti acid on hand. I have bottles in almost every room and in my car.

  You may want to look into getting some preventative OTC pills like Omeprazole or Famotadine. If it’s constant reflux, you may want to schedule a visit with a doc, ulcers are a thing and don’t get better without meds.

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  • flames5123@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    My doctor got me off omeprazole because there’s a link between long term use (10 years+) and kidney failure. So I do prescription strength famotidine twice a day and just take tums as needed, then in the summer when I’m drinking a lot, I switch to omeprazole for a few months. It’s working pretty good so far, but I go through tums like crazy.

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• Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Future topic of a chubby emu video in the making.

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• Jode@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  My dude omeprozol exists and is cheap. One tiny pill a day…

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  • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Only works if you take it in advance. There’s not really anything that helps when you wake up at 3 am and think you are dying - other than puking, which makes the problem worse long term.

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    • Jode@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Oh I know it and I have a bad time if I forget to take it. But once you make a habit of taking the pill it sure is life changing.

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    • hactar42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Tums or Pepto will give you instant relief, while you wait for the proton pump inhibitors to kick in.

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    • bitchkat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I take two of the quick dissolving ones if I feel the burn.

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• volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t eat soap simply because it’s amphiphilic, which is why, well, it makes good soap. The molecules have a hydrophilic and a lipophilic side and this will much rather soap off and severely damage the lining of your digestive route, potentially and probably also resulting in dangerous foaming.

  If you take the most simple soap that’s just like potassium ions and negatively charged fatty acid residues, I’m not 100% sure but I doubt that the fatty acids want to accept a proton because they are rather stable when negatively charged, hence they won’t work well to buffer the stomach acid. And again, by the time that the fatty acid thinks about accepting a proton or not it will most likely be soaping up your cells’ membranes.

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• tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Just take a tums dude

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• Soapbox1858@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Maybe. If you want to trade heartburn for intense diarrhea.

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  • zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’ll gladly take diarrhea over heartburn.

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    • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Each to their own, I suppose.

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• loomi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Research the acid reflux diet. It’s helped me. No onions. Limit tomatoes. No mint. Minimal citrus. No multivitamin (this seems unique to me) . No vitamin D (me again).

  On the good list for me Gum, specifically bubblegum with no mint Vanilla ice cream. Milk

  Bette Middler swears by this to preserve her voice

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• over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Uhh, we’re not exactly doctors here, but I don’t recommend eating soap. But hey, you do you.

  Maybe try some Pepto Bismol or something…

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• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Well, no, not really.

  Reflux is a definite no because that’s not “just” heartburn. Treating chronic reflux with something like tums or rolaids isn’t a great idea to begin with, and soap would cause even more problems.

  But, even “just” heartburn is a no.

  For one, the Ph is too high. You want to bring the acid to neutral, or close, in the esophagus; and the Ph of most soap is going to take it way past neutral and into alkaline.

  Most soaps? They’re bad for skin because the Ph is too high. It fucks up all kinds of stuff, and the more delicate the skin, the worse the effect. Like, your average soap is going to run around 9-10. Skin is around 5-6. The esophagus is going to hover around 7 normally, with it going to around 4 or below during chronic reflux (with occasional bouts staying a tad closer to 5 or 6). Most antacids would end up being around 8ish, at least the brand names.

  I’d have to run the math to figure out what exactly the results would be with a pure alkaline being swallowed in terms of end Ph, but it doesn’t really matter. Soap isn’t a pure alkaline. It’s a mix of things. Mind you, that’s all sketched out since I’m at the very limit of my chemistry here, but the general idea holds. Don’t try and use my numbers on a test or anything.

  And that mix, even though it won’t kill you or even put you in a hospital barring weird shit going on, ain’t going to settle your stomach. For one, the most common effect of swallowing soap is vomiting. Kids get into soap occasionally, and they puke it back up more often than not. Idiot adults sometimes get drunk and take bets, or dares, or whatever other stupidity is going on. They vomit it back up in any but the smallest amounts.

  What they don’t vomit up is going to come out the other end with some force. Some people used to use small amounts of soapy water as a laxative. And it works

  I don’t see a lot of vomiting followed by hours (potentially) of nausea being a good result to treat reflux.

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  • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What if it’s just a little nibble? Less mass means less hydroxide ions

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    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think that if it’s small enough to not cause nausea or other problems, it’s probably too small to neutralize the acid either.

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• kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I never had acid reflux. I don’t know what’s like. I feel somehow special lol.

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  • xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is varies from mildly unpleasant to a very unpleasant feeling in your throat. Sometimes it spreads to the chest, though i have never experienced that. Some day you too will feel this feeling. Try eating poorly and much for many days in a row.

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• abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  As a quick remedy for acid reflux, I recommend Marie Biscuits or Rich Tea Biscuits. They kind of seem to absorb the acid reflux… I don’t know how it works, but I always used to have a pack of those Biscuits in my bag when I used to have regular acid reflux. They worked very well for me. Of course, changing my diet and lifestyle worked much better and now I haven’t had acid reflux in years.

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• felixwhynot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Tums are like little soap cookies try them

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• CameronDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I am not a doctor, but if you drink lots of caffeine, it can cause your throat sphincter to loosen and give acid reflux. Maybe put soup in your coffee to even it out /s

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  • SirSamuel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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    • CameronDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      www.lush.com/au/en/p/soapaccino-soap

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  • XTL@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That might get you to cut down on dining coffee.

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• DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think drinking water would be more effective

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