Submitted 4 weeks ago by Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works to main@sh.itjust.works
https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/58e76358-5e82-4f03-b7ed-a6754b7875b9.jpeg
Just saw this on AskLemmy at .ml, thought this and chuckled, and now here we are.
Will take the opportunity to thank our admins for what they do, and all you humans for being here and generally being cool.
Did hexbear go through mitosis?
(Or are they going through mitosis like how USSR did in 1991? 🤣)
Good spot. I also want to know, but I fear the backstory…
It’s the same one, not sure why it’s reported twice.
That orb they have a puppet instance the same way ask their users have puppet accounts.
I’m surprised lemmy.ml isn’t on there, it seems really big from my limited experience.
No really, .ml isn’t even in top 10? Did they opt-out from these statistics or are they that small?
based on the creation date advertised by the instance, lemmy.ml exists since 2019-04-20. lemmy.world exists since 2023-06-01.
Huh, you’re right. In fairness this is cropped from an image shared on the AskLemmy .ml thread, so I’m not 100% sure what’s going on there.
They’re just loud. Like a terrier.
Post on an instance are not necessarily the right metric to how active the users of an instance are, just how many large and active communities are there.
Personally I would go with Monthly Active Users, e.g. since Hexbear has managed to run off a good fraction of its users over time (which lemmy.world is in the process of doing as well).
This puts sh.itjust.works as #4, which it’s been for a good long while, above Lemmy.ml and Hexbear and nearly all other instances.
Link, but the URL does not preserve the options shown, so you have to resort by Monthly Active Users.
Man, I just wanted to chant “We’re #5”, now I have people coming at me with facts. :p
(Jokes aside, I appreciate it. There’s nuance to these metrics and what best accounts for ‘size’, particularly for those cases/services where the metrics reflect a little bugginess anyway)
I think when we yell “five”, there should be a spirited booty shake.
Well, now you are on a firm basis to chant being #4!? 😜
(which lemmy.world is in the process of doing as well)
I’m one of them. Luigi censoring was the catalyst. I came to Lemmy to get away from corporate censorship.
I’m surprised to hear about the slowness issue - I think this is the first time that I have, though I am definitely spoiled at Discuss.Online that has such a great technical admin (he also is the one who was developing Sublinks, before life and a baby intervened:-). Is lemm.ee much faster than lemmy.world for you?
Tbf there is legit fear in the USA that Trump will start to place bans or at least watchlists on social media outlets that Musk does not make money off of. Then again, I thought that LW wasn’t really associated with the USA in any way besides having a bunch of users from it, and anyway you have found a perfect solution to the problem - if they don’t want it, go somewhere else that does allow what you need.:-)
sh.itjust.works is at #4 by total posts as well, since hexbear was counted twice in the OP.
It’s both amusing and unsurprising that lemmynsfw is second though
Wouldn’t total posts bias towards older instances though, counting posts over time rather than activity today? So then good point that sh.itjust.works is so high up by both metrics:-).
While lemmy.ml continues to fall - by active users I think I recall it was #3 at some point, then #4, while now it’s #5, where based on the gap below it, it seems likely to remain since users are now more distributed than previously (which is a good thing!:-).
dang I did not expect .ee to be on top behind .nsfw
At a guess, bc it doesn’t have that many communities on it?
Efforts are underway to change that but yeah it definitely lacks the same punch as others - like sh.itjust.works has 5 communities that are each larger, some by almost 3 times, than the absolute largest one on lemm.ee.
That instance seems not so much a “source” of content across the Fediverse as a “destination” for posts made to communities elsewhere.
Then again, very little else compares to Lemmy.World in that regard - it has another 10 communities each larger, some twice as large, as sh.itjust.works does. It would be healthier for the network effects to split that up a bit more… but fortunately their upgrade process over the next few months should help a little.
Lemmy.world has become a pro-censorship toxic shithole lately. Sooo glad I was made to find other instances.
Beauty of the fediverse… If one place sucks, just find a different one 😊
Yeah… I’m actually okay with censorship so long as it is clearly explained in advance and fairly applied - then again, I don’t necessarily want to join it either, just saying that I’m okay that it exists… over there somewhere (away from me:-).
If you exclude blocked instances, you’re a lot higher than #5…
Yeah, we’re pretty much #2, which seems thematically appropriate :)
You just made me realize that for me they are number one as I’ve got the other 4 blocked.
Hexbear is counted twice, so you’re actually #4.
This image is a bit disheartening, ngl
im still relatively new to lemmy and am crossposting or whatever the term is , from lemmy.world but its mind boggling that the tankie sect is as big as it is on here.
This is the best instance in fediverse in my opinion.
All this instance flexing has me feeling like a friend trying to get his other friends to like each other. Can’t we all get along? I mean, at least the ones that don’t promote hate and fascism?
Tbf, Hexbear, Lemmygrad, and Lemmy.ml all promote hate via being tankies. And the latter two tangentially support fascism because they support Russia in the current war, because 'Murikkka bad and therefore anyone that hates them must then be good
I mean this is the ideal. Most of the time I’m right there with ya. I’m just really attached to this instance - doesn’t mean that others are bad for not being on this (upon review, actually somewhat problematic) list.
This is the instance I direct everyone to, it’s been the most reasonable AND least bothersome.
5/7
Im not seen as a specific subset like if I were to move to blahaj or Midwest (which would be my next two picks). I like being seen as ‘just a person’
It, quite literally, just works.
The users are users, but the admin thinks foreign countries are using gender ideology to destroy the American empire from within.
That’s not what they said though.
That’s what my enby pals in Amsterdam think, as well though…
This is upsetting as fuck. This one picture just made me realize that Lemmy is likely never going to get much bigger. The top is just an exact clone of Reddit, meaning there’s no reason to use it over Reddit, and the next three are active propaganda mills filled with fascists and tankies. After that you get normal servers. That’s a terrible look. That guarantees anyone new joining will likely join one of those 4 and will either think “what’s the point, this is just Reddit with a percent of the users” or “JFC these people are all Nazis” or worst of all which seems to already be the case “finally, somewhere I can speak freely about those dirty Ukrainians/Palestinians/Americans/Women/LGBTQ/OtherMinorities!”
It is far worse than that imho, sadly.
For one, we are most definitely actively getting smaller, both since the Rexodus and also since just earlier this year. I think people are returning to Reddit but wherever they are going it is not here. We lack sufficient content for them, despite having the good apps that Reddit used to. This is software built by tankies, and has authoritarian purposes baked into the core.
And for another, a Google search for “Lemmy”, after the singer, pulls up as the top instance lemmy.ml, which notably uses a Local rather than All feed by default. So it’s just absolutely full of posts hating on the USA, UK, Germany, and anyone else who opposes the interests of Russia and China and North Korea. THIS is what “Lemmy” is, to people who don’t use DuckDuckGo as their primary search engine.
It may already be too late to reverse this trend: we lost the momentum of the Rexodus, and we won’t even be honest about who and what we are now, which would be a prerequisite for change - we are a Nazi bar.
An example of our authoritarianism is the modding tools here. The fact that we have a modlog at all is awesome, but the fact that it just says “mod” rather than who removed something, while simultaneously offering no modmail to communicate with whoever did it in order to ask why, is not. Also reports don’t federate. Lemmy was built by the admins of lemmy.ml, and if we want more of a non-authoritarian experience - e.g. a modmail - it seems we would have to build such ourselves?
Also, on Reddit (at least, prior to the Rexodus, I dunno if it still does today?) when a post is removed the post link remains viable, and people can still have discussions within it. On Lemmy, a capricious mod can remove something entirely. Imagine writing our a long response (such as I’ve done here:-), only to find after all of that that the post has been removed in the meantime and I can’t even respond to the person I was talking to, even if they were not the OP. Nor can I even finish reading through the comments - they are just, poof, gone.
As authoritarian as Huffman made Reddit into, we are so very similar - not at the top, obviously, bc open source makes all the difference, but when it comes down to the actual user experience, e.g. how a Redditor will look at us and judge this place to be, based on how we will treat them (and I haven’t even begun here to get into how centrists from the USA will feel in this leftist dominated environment!:-P). We have the seeds to be more, but we won’t make the computer code to make that happen.
Pretty good assessment! When I was using Reddit I used it like a lot and the way the Reddit admins treatet it made it not feel like home. I spent like so much time there so I ended up deleting my account. It wasn’t even the powermods or admin scandals although what kinda pushed me over the edge was the exclusivity contract with google. Only google was now supposed to be able to use web crawlers on Reddit. I use Qwant as my main search engine and didn’t like the way they gate kept the content made by people. Then only google is supposed to be able to train their AI with this data. They act like they own what I upload and create and I loved the idea of lemmy so I migrated to a german instance. After the big FUCK SPEZ on r/place I think a mod of r/ich_iel Hubi got like banned or something for a certain time so they decided to push for a migration to feddit.de, later feddit.org after feddit.de went down.
Reddit is already a left leaning platform in a political sense and lemmy is on another level. Even if you block out all the tankie instances. Sad to see the number of users slowly dropping bit by bit. It around the same but I’m kinda like just waiting for it to get better but it might never will. I’m a real sucker for FOSS and privacy so to think lemmy might now ever become more popular is sad to me.
Does that include the NSFW instances?
Perhaps the list originally started at 0…
Why heckbear 2 times? I am confuzzled
They’re just that good at posting lol
I’m good with my smaller community that is “seven seas friendly” in dbzer0
Hey, much respect to that.
I don’t know why, but I expected to see Aussie.zone here since it feels incredibly active to me haha
The Melbourne daily threads are quite something
I just want to take a moment to say your username is amazing.
Thanks, it’s one of my favourite pieces of poetry
I imagine feddit.nl is nowhere near the top but I sort of like it that way.
20th by monthly active users, accounting for hexbear double entry
Definitely a good position
Certainly enough to keep the instance afloat I assume!
I got here as a kbin.social refugee and I can’t say I have any complaints.
what happened with kbin?
Its creator and only maintainer started having health problems and that was it.
All I see is sjw being #2.
And not a pretty company to have around ngl
This makes me wish I could currently see comments on posts on sh.itjust.works. Bug in sync is making it not work.
So? Is there a contest?
So!? We’re #5! Or 4! Or something!
(Not everything needs a point - I just felt like posting this. Though it does look like it’s started a discussion about the relative size of lemmy and different instances, which is neat to think about once in a while - or disheartening depending on your perspective)
I appreciate your post, shitjustworks needs more silly shitposts
frankenswine@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
more like #4 considering the hexbear duplicate