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The Great Migration to Bluesky Gives Me Hope for the Future of the Internet

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨psychothumbs@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.404media.co/the-great-migration-to-bluesky-gives-me-hope-for-the-future-of-the-internet/

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  • KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    OP has posted (and re-posted) about Bluesky about 40 times in the last 48 hours. I’m down voting every single one. Quit shilling for billionaires.

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    • DuckWrangler9000@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Are they a bot??

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  • zephorah@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Right up until you sit through his 6min speech on 1A. It’s like the goal is to turn all social media platforms into Twitter.

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  • zephorah@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Right up until you sit through his 6min speech on 1A. It’s like the goal is to turn all social media platforms into Twitter.

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  • GiddyGap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bluesky is VC-funded. Enshittification incoming.

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  • dukethorion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why does everyone suddenly forget BSky was created by Jack Dorsey?

    It’s going to be another Twitter. Bring everyone in, AI scrape all the data, then sell when the climate moves too far in one direction.

    Or is this like the Great Reddit Exodus, that lasted maybe a month?

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  • alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So ppl switching from one VC funded centralised corpo platform to another VC funded (slitghly less) centralised corpo platform is a good think?

    big X here

    (now don’t tell me that Bluesky is “federated”. They still hold all the power over site rules and moderation. The only little concession you get is that you are allowed to host your own data)

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  • Ottomade@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Idk why people think the average user is going to go to Mastodon. I’m glad anything else other than Twitter or Threads is popping off.

    Mastodon could have worked sooner if it was more approachable.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If people moving from one corpo owned platform to another corpo owned platform gives you hope for the future of the internet: You haven’t been paying attention to the history of the internet at all.

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    • meliaesc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But it means people are still capable of caring.

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    • dantheclamman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      At least it theoretically has account portability…but yes, I fear people are setting themselves up to be enshittified again, as Cory Doctorow has brought up

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  • yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think this time it actually has some teeth to it, even big famous artists like Lack are on blue sky now, my feed is looking pretty good daily now where before I had to wait a few days before checking it out.

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    • priapus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A lot of the big accounts I follow have been reporting a huge loss in followers on Twitter and an even larger influx of followers on Bluesky.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why?

    The internet at large is still a cesspool.

    The only difference is who is in control of it.

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    • kaffiene@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Community is and always has been important. The key is and airways has been your ability to effectively curate your community. It is a cesspool if and only if you lack that ability

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  • selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I hope some of them come to the Fediverse. It’s nice that only the curious ones will come.

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    • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think the smartest ones will. Really I don’t mind a smart intelligent community like this one.

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  • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • Default_Defect@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bluesky actually has content though. Unless all you want is linux and news.

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    • JWayn596@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its open source isn’t it? It still has the same problems but on a privacy level, having it be open source is much better.

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      • laverabe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        reddit was open source as well.

        was

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People are leaving Muskrats fascist supporting platform. So what if they aren’t going to Mastedon, they’re leaving Twitter.

    I just want Twitter to lose. Once Twitter has been (hopefully) de-platformed we can talk about Mastedon and the Fediverse.

    But it terms of main stream casual appeal, Mastedon still doesn’t have it yet, and that’s okay.

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    • WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, it’s better to move forward a little than to go backwards. When you move forward you can keep moving forward more later. If you move backwards you have to fight for what you lost before you can get more back.

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    • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well said. Maybe there’s more to do in the hardware, software and general computing training such that the layman could safely deploy their own Website like we used to be able to do. Then everyone could have their own servers at home like some of us do. True decentralized communication.

      Lemmy would be great for dare I say it…church congregations for example. Schools, mechanic forums, unofficial student associations like alpha Kapa whatever. ETC. it’s a momentous opportunity.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Once Twitter has been (hopefully) de-platformed we can talk about Mastedon and the Fediverse and the idea of a non-corpo platform.

      BlueSky is as prone to enshittification as Twitter. If you’re waiting for BlueSky to take off, you’re just setting yourself up for the next rug pull.

      I mean, go to BS and enjoy it while it lasts. But don’t think this is the future.

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    • Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They’re leaving Musk, but they’re not leaving his financial backers, and they’re entering into the same kind of “possibly sold to a fascist despot at a moment’s notice” situation they just left.

      It’s short sighted, perfirmative, and doesn’t actually make the Internet better at all. It just tells us that people prefer a closed Internet owned by billionaires.

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      • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Maybe these need people need to feel the cycle first hand a few more times and that’s okay. ActivityPub will be even stronger when it comes around again.

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      • el_abuelo@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, what’s stopping the richest guy in the world just buying blue-sky as well?

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  • sircac@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The wrong migration to IMHO…

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  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bluesky is run by the founder of twitter, which took far too long to ban Trump the first time round. I don’t know why so many people are giving him another chance to do the same shit again.

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    • popekingjoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Jack Dorsey no longer has anything to do with Bluesky. techcrunch.com/…/jack-dorsey-says-hes-no-longer-o…

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      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh. Good.

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  • eleitl@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That decentralized and self-hostable platforms like Lemmy are fringe does not give me hope for the future of social networks on the Internet.

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    • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They don’t have to have everyone on them to be good. In some ways it’s preferable not to. Reddit was far better before the Digg migration, and we might already be living in the golden years of Lemmy and not even realize it.

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      • balder1991@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t know, Reddit also has more niche communities that just don’t have enough people in platforms like Lemmy.

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  • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bluesky is not great, but it’s at least (for now) a better platform than X and the AT protocol is actually very well written. (For instance having a moderation service separated from the service that provides the posts I think is a hands-down better way to handle it than most ActivityPub servers having their admins handle all incoming and outgoing moderation)

    Bluesky federation is just now getting started so it’ll be interesting to see if it goes anywhere/where it goes.

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  • Nangt3c@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Now left-wing has their own echo chamber, hurray

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    • priapus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Now normal people have a microblogging platform where they aren’t constantly having fascist propaganda shoved down their throats.

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      • Nangt3c@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        fascist propaganda shoved down their throats

        I’v seen more left propaganda in Reddit and Twitter, and people who can’t handle other perspectives calling you fascist just because you don’t think like them.

        People are not leaving twitter because of “fascism”, they are leaving twitter because they have zero tolerance to people who don’t think like them

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  • Dreamless4561@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wish they would go to Mastodon, even Threads which is on the fediverse.

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  • witx@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because it shows that a sizable amount of people are anti-nazi enough to move platform.

      Yes, it would be even nicer if they moved to mastodon, but nobody even knows what that is, nobody is there (classic chicken and egg problem), and people get confused by the whole “choose an instance” thing.

      Is it not ok to have a small celebration of people moving to a better, more positive platform, even if it is far from perfect?

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  • staticsoar@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Shame that it’s another Capital-owned platform taking the spotlight. I’m not surprised unfortunately. We’ll be in the same place we are now in 10 years.

    I’m preaching to the choir, but mastodon is the better platform if you want more authentic community and conversation.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Chances are that any new large commercial platform will enshittify, sooner or later prompting another exodus, and each exodus will at least have some people choosing a community platform.

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  • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lemmy does not understand that people are leaving X cuz of Nazis, not cuz it’s a centralized corpo platform.

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    • Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To a platform that has been on the record about not kicking ouy Nazis, though.

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Elon turned it into his own personal Nazi blog where people can’t block him.

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    • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Pretty sure a significant portion of nazis are also moving to bluesky

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      • Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But on Bluesky you don’t get them shoved in your face and there is culture of just blocking Nazis and moving on.

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There were Nazis on X for years before this. They’re leaving because Trump won.

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  • demizerone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If it was owned by the community that moderated it, then yes. But no it’s owned by another rich asshole.

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  • blindbunny@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What a fucking lib take… See you on Mastodon after Dorsey fuck y’all over again

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      techcrunch.com/…/jack-dorsey-says-hes-no-longer-o…

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      • blindbunny@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Even if dorsey is too busy sniffing his own farts bluesky is built on vc money just like twitter was. This is the same song and every one is just dancing to the same old hollow tune.

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  • JoYo@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    do we really want people that waited until now to even think about an alternative to fascists media?

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  • FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the great migration to another investor-backed patiently waiting disaster. enjoy it while it’s good. if only they used activitypub. Mastodon is just too confusing for the average person, it will never take off. bluesky streamlines everything into being simple and understandable to the average user. I laugh when I see people circle jerking about being better than twitter when in reality it was started by the same people and all it takes is someone with too much money and it’ll be another fall-off story.

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mastodon is just too confusing for the average person

      You’re mistaking motivation for ability. If you understand email, you can understand Mastodon.

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      • gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You think the average person understands email?

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  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Smart people left Twitter years ago. This is rats leaving the sinking boat for another rotten boat. If you were still on Twitter, please dont join Mastodon, we dont want you. Go make the same mistakes again and again, meanwhile we will keep building a better web on the fedi.

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  • WindyRebel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I just moved our D&D account over there.

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  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The main thing I would like to know is why so many people nowadays want a microblog platform, whether it is X or Bluesky or Mastodon, and why community-based platforms like Lemmy are getting relatively little attention in comparison.

    Is it just that these people weren’t seriously online before the rise of microblogs? They didn’t start out with phpBB-style forums, so don’t miss their existence and think that individuals having followers is the normal state of the Internet? I’m genuinely not super sure what’s going on.

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    • priapus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Community-based platforms aren’t receiving as much attention because while Reddit is getting worse and worse, it has not reached the level of enshittification Twitter is at. Most people are still going to keep using it. Twitter on the other hand is reaching the point where huge amount of people are leaving, making alternative microblog platforms very relevant.

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    • P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      People have different tastes, which can vary.

      Microblogging is something more casual, and has more focus on the people sharing content. Community foruns are revolved around the content shared, so you don’t really get to know people, so it has a difference on what they actually want.

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      • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I found that on old forums I did get to know the people regularly posting on them quite well over time (and they got to know me). On reddit and lemmy not so much, or do you have any idea about anything I’ve posted before (because I don’t know anything about you).

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  • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    is also decentralized and is federated, meaning it is moving toward a future where users “own” their audiences and can port them elsewhere (you can, and many do, argue about the details here, and about the differences between ActivityPub, which Mastodon uses, and the AT Protocol, which Bluesky uses).

    Best coverage yet for that alone

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