Submitted 6 months ago by neme@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
It requires them to restrict certain categories of video, so that users cannot share content on cyberbullying, promoting eating disorders, promotion of self harm or incitement to hatred on a number of grounds.
Wow, what a horrible, restraining overreach.
I am shedding tears for the 1.2% engagement loss this would cost Reddit next quarter. Imagine what they have to pay devs for filtering abusive videos!
(I hate to sound so salty, but its mind boggling that they would fight this so vehemently).
Well…the problem is reddit’s size.
I’m not part of reddit anymore because they filtered me out for abusive content.
The content that was so abusive? I told a story on /r/Cleveland about the time 35 years ago I got my bike stolen.
I wasn’t accusing any current reddit user of being the theif. But reddit bots flagged me of being abusive to other users.
We don’t even know if that guy who stole my bike 35 years ago is even still alive, much less an active redditor on /r/Cleveland. So who am I being abusive to, when I say it’s a bad idea to let strangers ride your bike without some kind of assurance you’ll get it back?
I got banned when I told a literal Nazi, that said that literal Jews should die, should drink bleach to purify their genes before they contaminated the genepool.
I still stand by it. my grandfather fucked up Nazis, and I’ll fuck up Nazis too.
+1
But also, that just sounds like they’re cheaping out on content filtering. And, you know, kinda broke the enthusiastic community moderation that made it great in the first place.
Well…the problem is reddit’s size.
They’ve never been shy about targeting certain subs and communities for shutdown when it suits their commercial interests. This has nothing to do with size and everything to do with the nature of the content itself.
These videos are pure clickbait. They feed engagement. They build up lots of enthusiasm both among content providers and active users. And, as a consequence, they make the company money.
But reddit bots flagged me of being abusive to other users.
Bots will flag any post purely based on keyword searches and AI parsing of sentiment. Its got nothing to do with your actual statement. But it also depends heavily on who you are, where you post, and how often other users flag you. Very possibly you simply got “Report” flagged a bunch of times by other users for some reason and that - plus a naive parsing - was all the AI bot needed to know.
But I’ll also bet the post wasn’t getting thousands of unique interactions and external visits. If you’d been a power-poster who was posting a face-cam rant rather than a text blob, I suspect you’d have been fine.
same with me and /r/Toronto got banned for stating a long dead prime minister was horrible to indigenous people. they used the excuse that I was submitting too many articles about crimes in the city as that subreddit’s mods automatically remove any content about crime or pro Palestinian content.
Post god knows how many photos of the CN tower, the fucking sun setting or snow…hey that’s great! anything that’s news worthy and potentially paints the city in a bad light? nope, censored. It’s so bad that i’m convinced the mods there are being paid under the table by the City.
The problem is Reddit’s CEO. Fullstop
I hate Reddit as much as the next guy but that just sounds like an asshole mod
I’m gonna have to ask you to stop abusing whatever random reddit mod banned you back then in case they might be here. Or else.
They would have to hire a shitload of people to police it all along with the rest of the questionable shit on there, like jailbait or whatever other shit they turned a blind eye to until it showed up on the news
Not saying it’s right but from a business standpoint it makes sense
Don’t they flag stuff automatically?
Not sure what they’re using on the backend, but open source LLMs that take image inputs are good now, and this is apparently a field thats been refined over years due to the legal need for CSAM detection anyway.
A shitload of people, like as many as 10!
I hate to sound so salty, but its mind boggling that they would fight this so vehemently, instead of just… filtering abusive content?
I guess it’s just enshittification. Profits are their first priority.
I’m a little surprised to hear people so willing to let the government of Ireland determine who they are allowed to hate and for what reasons.
Because at this point, I trust the Irish government more than Reddit to make proper moderation judgements.
It’s not a high bar, and not ideal…
You are making such a useless point that requires minimal effort or thought. It would be better if you actually shared a tangible concern rather than providing a strawman argument meant to cause an irrational fear in people reading your comment.
For example, you could have shared which group of people you want to be a protected class and is not by Irish law; or which group of people is currently a protected class by Irish law and should not be. At least, then, you would brought up a real concern about how the Irish government is determining who folks are allowed to hate, because right now all you are doing is fear mongering.
Probably would require them to actually pay moderators! The horror!
I wonder what the investors like Condé Nast/Advance Publications think of this?
Why does anyone still use reddit? Why does anyone still use Twitter? Why does anyone still use Instagram?
Reddit has an absolutely massive wealth of community knowledge. If you want to find a community for $thing or gain obscure knowledge on $thing, that’s where you go (assuming there isn’t an old forum post from before Reddit killed forums).
Twitter is where a lot of people still are. If you’re the kind of person to care what a particular person says, that’s where you probably want to be.
Instagram is used by young people who have friends on Instagram.
It isn’t a great system, but it is the system that we have today. This is why legislation compelling Meta/Twitter/whothefuckever to act in an ethical manner is important. Social media is to some extent a natural oligopoly, and unless we get extremely, extremely lucky, the fediverse will always be a niche community.
Find me easier to access niche communities and I’ll be gone from reddit. I hoped Lemmy would blow up. Instead, reddit just shrank.
Find me easier to access niche communities
Have fun trying to discuss anything that isn’t about linux, american politics or reddit/amazon/elon bad!!. Lemmy is just a decentralized circle jerk.
Yeah I really wish people in niche communities would just migrate over. I honestly don’t understand why they haven’t yet.
I hoped Lemmy would blow up.
Blow up one server and three more will sprout.
This is basically asking why anyone would live in or near a city like Los Angeles or New York City when Minot exists and has everything you could possibly need.
If you had to look up where Minot even is, you’ve proven my point.
Say what you will about whether living near the proverbial big city is worth it or not. But it cannot be denied, there is a world of experiences on offer at larger platforms that a smaller platform simply cannot provide. Network effect can be a cruel mistress.
A lot of stuff ONLY has viable Q&A discussion there…
As much as I love the idea of Lemmy, try finding active communities here for: MAME or any other videogame emulation… Plex… The breed of your family dog/cat… Most any sort of non-Fedi-focused brand/podcast/personality…
Yes, I can create a new community. Then I just sit in it by myself, and occasionally deal with spam.
Discoverability is poor on Lemmy and isn’t helped by the low user count.
Would be nice to revisit an old idea from Newsgroups, where you could sub to gaming and see everything, or gaming.playstation.ps5 or gaming.emulation.mame or whatever for sub-communities.
But then the decentralised nature works against it there as well.
These comments are so braindead, Jesus Christ.
You don’t know why someone would use a social link aggregator… and you’re lamenting about this on a social link aggregator.
Why are you here?
Almost like they asked about a specific site and not the concept of link aggregators or something
Exactly. Really incomprehensible why are some people amazed at some things. We’re all different, with different motives, different needs, different levels of coziness and different views on privacy etc.
Because people do not care. It is that simple.
Yeah, Reddit is not rhetorical ghost town I thought it would be after the mass exodus.
Like we had a secret (or not so secret) desire for it to crumble so we can crack a beer and say good riddance. 😁
But in the end, business mostly as usual.
I don’t get why more people didn’t move to Lemmy or mbin
It’s still active – save the communities that got kneecapped by mods during the revolt (and sadly, most of those are now Discord-based rather than having any appreciable activity here).
The activity there now is a lot… dumber. Like much of the internet, the ratio of real people to braindead bots on Reddit is a lot different than a few years ago.
because their friends are there
or in reddit’s case, because they think their friends are there
As someone who only recently joined Lemmy (as a result of getting booted from Reddit) it ultimately comes down to it being bigger.
You can talk regularly about series have been over for a decade. Just about any niche interest has a vibrant community. The reality is the average person doesn’t care about it selling our data, putting a fingerprint on our gear one step above spyware, it being overrun with bots, every level of administration being dominated by megalomaniacs. If you just want to look through some stuff you’re interested in while you’re bored, it serves a purpose that lemmy unfortunately can’t at it’s size.
For Twitter it really doesn’t make sense because it has become undebatably a “Nazi bar”, metaphorically since they aren’t an actual bar, but they still support and tolerate Nazis (and other manners of horrible people). Some people insist that it isn’t and there are “normal level headed people there” but that doesn’t matter, it’s still a Nazi bar, because it accepts and tolerates Nazis. How can someone expect to not be judged for going to and hanging out in a place like that?
Most people don’t care. I’m sick of hearing about Reddit, I left because I do care but I don’t want to keep hearing about my ex, you know!
We are not important, we are the minority that maybe cares about these things and that’s ok, we should live our lives the way we want to and allow others to do the same.
Agreed. Yes, it’s important to know what’s going on in the “big” world - but I wish all of us more interested in Lemmy, the small web, and so on spent more time and energy on creating, maintaining, and enjoying what we can build/use and less lamenting, bashing, or wishing for what we want to leave behind.
Why does anyone still use Reddit?
Some niche communities and content to repost on Lemmy
Why does anyone still use Instagram?
Friends and memes to repost on Lemmy
Because people dream of making it big, being viral, being an influencer with a ton of followers and money. That one second of fame is still tantalising to a lot of people.
Also a lot of these apps (not reddit, but the others like Facebook) are installed on phones by default. To many, they are just what the internet is.
Nana and grandad used to do email. Now it’s just racist rainbowflag-phobic reposting on Facebook and wondering why their grandkids that haven’t looked at FB in a decade don’t contact them.
Overall, because Lemmy is slow and boring mostly. I see headlines here and go to Reddit for the comments through the geddit crawler.
I gotta disagree with you here. At least on the sub(s) that I still - on the occasion of big events - take a glance at. To me, Reddit comments are the epitome of staleness and predictability. Also, their user base seems like a bunch of 40-year-old dads that mentally peaked at 16, but keep getting more racist by the year.
I use it for porn still
first Tumblr banned porn, then Reddit requires sign-in for 18+ content (I know old UI bypasses that), and now Twitter has become a walled garden as well. Bad times for gooners
Why does anyone still use chrome!
I get twitter and reddit because of the uniqueness of the platforms but chrome is just a web browser! Any other program can be used in its stead to view the same exact websites yet people continue to use it even being stubborn about it!
Because social networks are only as good as the people who are on them.
reddit has half functioning search.
Maybe because they just want to???
What’s wrong with Instagram now?
Centralized and owned by meta. Harvesting your data constantly. Ads upon ads that track you. Proprietary.
i seen a few people still use it my friend,some random people in a server,etc
The moved their jurisdiction to the Netherlands? In the EU? Wow. Now the GDPR can be used to really kick their butts.
Dear Netherlands,
The pigboy is your problem now. Sorry not sorry.
Sincerely,
Everyone else
Idea: Governments maintain a list of entities that are evading the law like that, and then doesn’t prosecute people who are accused of crimes against such entities. The idea being that if you place yourself outside of the law’s reach, you also place yourself outside of the law’s protection.
I‘m confused. Reddit claims it doesn’t host videos, just links to them but it absolutely does host videos.
Welkom in Nederland, moederneuker!
What a weaselly thing to do
the utility of the nation/state has been broken by 21st century meta-national billionaires
unions are useful but they no longer cover the distance between the labor and capital
we need a new group of collective shit
Of course it has. It says everything you need to know
Maybe they should be investigated for all the child porn they used to host
Sounds like another case of US tech companies fucking with the web of EU regulations to nobody’s benefit but their own.
It’s no wonder they moved to another tax haven. Sorry, sorry. The EU doesn’t have tax havens according to their own rules. Low tax threshold telegraphic jurisdictions.
nytimes.com/…/dutch-school-privacy-google-microso…
If anything, the Dutch will enforce more laws on them
Time for the EU to rip him a new one :)
Sounds like it’ll need blocked in Ireland then
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Fuck Spez
Fuck these tax heavens.
Time for the DSA and the DMA to be applied to reddit.
I never knew so many people lived there.
A censorship promoting flees censorship?
I’m banned from Reddit after wishing someone would get the death penalty for murdering a child.
so like, how can american companys just go “im not american lol, your laws dont apply to me despite me operating mostly in the us”
a nice little eli5 would be cool, i get the why, but the how?
GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Fuck Spez
poo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
He’s such a disgusting greedy little pig boy who frankly belongs in a deep hole where nobody will find him 🙏
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Absolutely fuck spez.
But he’s right here. Just because he’s a fuckstick doesn’t mean he’s always wrong on every issue 100% of the time.
Various forms of censorship under the flag of ‘online safety’ have been pushed by governments since the internet began to exist. And before that with print media and television. Censorship is not the answer. Never was. First it was for porn, then it was for video games, then it was for hate speech, it’s always something.
But in the words of Captain Jean-Luc Picard,
Censorship must be opposed.
banana@communick.news 6 months ago
I disagree since I think censorship can be desired when combatting hate speech. Maybe we just disagree how exactly we use the word ‘censorship’.
towerful@programming.dev 6 months ago
Yeh, fuck censorship. Let’s all be shitbags and do that stuff instead!
GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think reducing the visibility of some kinds of content can be good, especially for teenagers. E.g. when it comes to content around suicide, I think it is better if teenagers see “there is support for you, please speak to an anti-suicide charity for free on this phone number” instead of pro-suicide content.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
I agree, but what the Irish are doing is dumb. If reddit it hit with that, then so should Google and the whole of the internet, since everything can get you videos. No one should be in charge of sensoring the internet.
Naryn@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If you want to operate in a country, you have to abide by their laws.
Clanket@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve read your sentence multiple times and I’ve no idea what it means.