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Reddit says it is not covered by new Online Safety Code as it has moved its jurisdiction to the Netherlands
Submitted 10 hours ago by neme@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
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secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 4 hours ago
Why does anyone still use reddit? Why does anyone still use Twitter? Why does anyone still use Instagram?
sag@lemm.ee 10 minutes ago
Why does anyone still use Reddit?
Some niche communities and content to repost on Lemmy
Why does anyone still use Instagram?
Friends and memes to repost on Lemmy
thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 13 minutes ago
Yeah, Reddit is not rhetorical ghost town I thought it would be after the mass exodus.
littlecolt@lemm.ee 52 minutes ago
Find me easier to access niche communities and I’ll be gone from reddit. I hoped Lemmy would blow up. Instead, reddit just shrank.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 25 minutes ago
For Twitter it really doesn’t make sense because it has become undebatably a “Nazi bar”, metaphorically since they aren’t an actual bar, but they still support and tolerate Nazis (and other manners of horrible people). Some people insist that it isn’t and there are “normal level headed people there” but that doesn’t matter, it’s still a Nazi bar, because it accepts and tolerates Nazis. How can someone expect to not be judged for going to and hanging out in a place like that?
Eheran@lemmy.world 34 minutes ago
Because people do not care. It is that simple.
scoobford@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Reddit has an absolutely massive wealth of community knowledge. If you want to find a community for $thing or gain obscure knowledge on $thing, that’s where you go (assuming there isn’t an old forum post from before Reddit killed forums).
Twitter is where a lot of people still are. If you’re the kind of person to care what a particular person says, that’s where you probably want to be.
Instagram is used by young people who have friends on Instagram.
It isn’t a great system, but it is the system that we have today. This is why legislation compelling Meta/Twitter/whothefuckever to act in an ethical manner is important. Social media is to some extent a natural oligopoly, and unless we get extremely, extremely lucky, the fediverse will always be a niche community.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
because their friends are there
or in reddit’s case, because they think their friends are there
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
It requires them to restrict certain categories of video, so that users cannot share content on cyberbullying, promoting eating disorders, promotion of self harm or incitement to hatred on a number of grounds.
Wow, what a horrible, restraining overreach.
I am shedding tears for the 1.2% engagement loss this would cost Reddit next quarter. Imagine what they have to pay devs for filtering abusive videos!
(I hate to sound so salty, but its mind boggling that they would fight this so vehemently).
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Well…the problem is reddit’s size.
I’m not part of reddit anymore because they filtered me out for abusive content.
The content that was so abusive? I told a story on /r/Cleveland about the time 35 years ago I got my bike stolen.
I wasn’t accusing any current reddit user of being the theif. But reddit bots flagged me of being abusive to other users.
We don’t even know if that guy who stole my bike 35 years ago is even still alive, much less an active redditor on /r/Cleveland. So who am I being abusive to, when I say it’s a bad idea to let strangers ride your bike without some kind of assurance you’ll get it back?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I got banned when I told a literal Nazi, that said that literal Jews should die, should drink bleach to purify their genes before they contaminated the genepool.
I still stand by it. my grandfather fucked up Nazis, and I’ll fuck up Nazis too.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
+1
But also, that just sounds like they’re cheaping out on content filtering. And, you know, kinda broke the enthusiastic community moderation that made it great in the first place.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Well…the problem is reddit’s size.
They’ve never been shy about targeting certain subs and communities for shutdown when it suits their commercial interests. This has nothing to do with size and everything to do with the nature of the content itself.
These videos are pure clickbait. They feed engagement. They build up lots of enthusiasm both among content providers and active users. And, as a consequence, they make the company money.
But reddit bots flagged me of being abusive to other users.
Bots will flag any post purely based on keyword searches and AI parsing of sentiment. Its got nothing to do with your actual statement. But it also depends heavily on who you are, where you post, and how often other users flag you. Very possibly you simply got “Report” flagged a bunch of times by other users for some reason and that - plus a naive parsing - was all the AI bot needed to know.
But I’ll also bet the post wasn’t getting thousands of unique interactions and external visits. If you’d been a power-poster who was posting a face-cam rant rather than a text blob, I suspect you’d have been fine.
rozodru@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
same with me and /r/Toronto got banned for stating a long dead prime minister was horrible to indigenous people. they used the excuse that I was submitting too many articles about crimes in the city as that subreddit’s mods automatically remove any content about crime or pro Palestinian content.
Post god knows how many photos of the CN tower, the fucking sun setting or snow…hey that’s great! anything that’s news worthy and potentially paints the city in a bad light? nope, censored. It’s so bad that i’m convinced the mods there are being paid under the table by the City.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
The problem is Reddit’s CEO. Fullstop
bulwark@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I hate Reddit as much as the next guy but that just sounds like an asshole mod
fluxion@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I’m gonna have to ask you to stop abusing whatever random reddit mod banned you back then in case they might be here. Or else.
chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
They would have to hire a shitload of people to police it all along with the rest of the questionable shit on there, like jailbait or whatever other shit they turned a blind eye to until it showed up on the news
Not saying it’s right but from a business standpoint it makes sense
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Don’t they flag stuff automatically?
Not sure what they’re using on the backend, but open source LLMs that take image inputs are good now, and this is apparently a field thats been refined over years due to the legal need for CSAM detection anyway.
GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I hate to sound so salty, but its mind boggling that they would fight this so vehemently, instead of just… filtering abusive content?
I guess it’s just enshittification. Profits are their first priority.
reddig33@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I wonder what the investors like Condé Nast/Advance Publications think of this?
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
I’m a little surprised to hear people so willing to let the government of Ireland determine who they are allowed to hate and for what reasons.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Because at this point, I trust the Irish government more than Reddit to make proper moderation judgements.
It’s not a high bar, and not ideal…
Kaboom@reddthat.com 10 hours ago
Probably would require them to actually pay moderators! The horror!
db2@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Dear Netherlands,
The pigboy is your problem now. Sorry not sorry.
Sincerely,
Everyone else
SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
You can almost hear the EU lawyers cracking their knuckles and quietly saying: “about that used data protection.”
jonne@infosec.pub 8 hours ago
Yeah, moving to the EU to escape regulation doesn’t seem like a smart move.
viking@infosec.pub 6 hours ago
Um… Did you read the article? It’s about moving their EU Headquarters from Ireland to the Netherlands. GDPR applied before and after. This is specifically about Irish censorship requirements.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
What a weaselly thing to do
nightlily@leminal.space 10 hours ago
I‘m confused. Reddit claims it doesn’t host videos, just links to them but it absolutely does host videos.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
Not since the last half decade.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
You can upload videos straight to Reddit
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
as a connoisseur of science on Reddit, I can most assuredly confirm Reddit does host video content.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
Sounds like another case of US tech companies fucking with the web of EU regulations to nobody’s benefit but their own.
It’s no wonder they moved to another tax haven. Sorry, sorry. The EU doesn’t have tax havens according to their own rules. Low tax threshold telegraphic jurisdictions.
Mora@pawb.social 10 hours ago
Time for the EU to rip him a new one :)
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
Sounds like it’ll need blocked in Ireland then
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Fuck Spez
sukhmel@programming.dev 9 hours ago
What’s the joke about? Does Ireland block everything that comes from the Netherlands?
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
It’s more a “If a company doesn’t comply with a coutry’s regulations then it can’t operate in that country” thing and not a joke.
For example Twitter when it was blocked in Brazil for a little while because they didn’t want to pay a fine for not complying with some of their regulations.
m3t00@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I never knew so many people lived there.
madjo@feddit.nl 8 hours ago
Time for the DSA and the DMA to be applied to reddit.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 10 hours ago
cacheson@piefed.social 1 hour ago
I miss 90's techno-libertarian utopianism. A little naive in retrospect, but I'm still hopeful that it'll still have some relevance going forward.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Fuck Spez
poo@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
He’s such a disgusting greedy little pig boy who frankly belongs in a deep hole where nobody will find him 🙏
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
I agree, but what the Irish are doing is dumb. If reddit it hit with that, then so should Google and the whole of the internet, since everything can get you videos. No one should be in charge of sensoring the internet.
Naryn@lemmy.world 42 minutes ago
If you want to operate in a country, you have to abide by their laws.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
Absolutely fuck spez.
But he’s right here. Just because he’s a fuckstick doesn’t mean he’s always wrong on every issue 100% of the time.
Various forms of censorship under the flag of ‘online safety’ have been pushed by governments since the internet began to exist. And before that with print media and television. Censorship is not the answer. Never was. First it was for porn, then it was for video games, then it was for hate speech, it’s always something.
But in the words of Captain Jean-Luc Picard,
Censorship must be opposed.
banana@communick.news 8 hours ago
I disagree since I think censorship can be desired when combatting hate speech. Maybe we just disagree how exactly we use the word ‘censorship’.
towerful@programming.dev 8 hours ago
Yeh, fuck censorship. Let’s all be shitbags and do that stuff instead!