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• alexc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The web. It was good while it lasted.

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  • a1studmuffin@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    robots.txt is the perfect summary of the web era. A plain text file that politely asked web crawlers not to do certain things. Such an innocent time.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Please unblock challenges.cloudflare.com to proceed
  (grumble, unblock, reload)

  Verify you are human
  (click)

  …spin…spin…spin…
  Verify you are human
  (click)

  …spin…spin…spin…
  Verify you are human
  (click)

  …spin…spin…spin…
  Verify you are human
  (click)

  …spin…spin…spin…
  Verify you are human
  (click)

  …spin…spin…spin…

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  • jaaaardvark@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    privacypass.github.io has helped somewhat

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    • noodlejetski@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Privacy Pass will generate a number of random nonces that will be used as tokens

      British people making a double take

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    • mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Interesting. A quick look at the description makes me think it could help with the inconvenience problem, but probably not with the allowing javascript problem. In any case, I’ll have to take a closer look. Thanks for the link.

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    • Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Doesnt seem to work for many people (Cloudflare has stopped supporting it?), judging by reading reviews on Mozilla extension store.

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  • progandy@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    … Spin … Spin … Spin … … Remember that you turned off your VPN … Turn it on … CF: OK, only humans use VPN, no need to show the challenge

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You forgot:

    Click all the pictures of buses.
    (clicks)

    …spin…spin…spin…

    Click all the pictures of bicycles.
    (clicks)

    …spin…spin…spin…

    Click all the pictures of traffic lights.
    (clicks)

    …spin…spin…spin…

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    • mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t forget; I just chose to highlight Cloudflare’s awful captcha instead of Google’s awful captcha. :)

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    • acetanilide@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Click all the objects heavier than this one

      …spin…spin…spin…

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• LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have a very hard time believing that these companies are unaware of how auful this shit makes their webpages.

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  • seaQueue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s intentional, they want you logged in so they can track what you’re doing

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    • slaacaa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      iT’s bEtTeR iN tHe aPp

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  • xavier666@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Anyone can make a good website. It takes a real engineer to make a horrible website that people will use just enough while suffering.

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s a very good quote.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They know exactly. Once you create a Twitter account, consent to cookies and link your Google account you’ll never see these pop-ups again.

    Basically extortion.

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    • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you ever want to read anyone’s tweets somewhat chronologically or see someone’s latest tweet, you’re gonna create an account.

      Tweets as view on people’s profiles are totally scrambled (presumably to thwart LLM-feeding scrapers).

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  • ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I do a lot of my browsing from an iPhone 11. At least twice a day, a page will crash and reload halfway through whatever article I was trying to read. I get it’s a few generations old, but since when do you need state of the art tech to view what should be a static page.

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  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s diminishing customer experience creep, except the company doesn’t understand what the user data means. They run A/B tests of different layouts, seeing what kind of feedback each gets to learn more about design choices and users. Each version should get its own feedback and then that data is compiled by data scientists into actionable feedback, things that can be done to improve the website in the direction the company thinks is an “improvement”.

    Twitter abandoned those data scientists with the initial layoffs. There is no one to tell them what works and what impacts the customer experience, which is why each time the internal question of “how do we open up for engagement?” they answer it the same way, “Use existing user bases by linking their account to Twitter.” The result is several login requests all looking for the same cookie.

    It’s lazy or inexperienced management. Knowing the type of person Elon hires, it’s probably both.

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  • Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh they’re aware, they just don’t care 99% of the time.

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  • Brickardo@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, unless you’re a nerd, you only see those messages once

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  • FierySpectre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I barely see them pop up, if they do it’s for a fraction of a second before a browser extension nukes them.

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  • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, they kinda don’t. Companies are entities made out of policies guiding how people split up objectives into smaller parts. The more people involved and the more indirect it is, the less coherent it gets

    Legal says you need one popup for compliance. Marketing or analytics say you need more users to log in. Elon wants to remind people to call it Twitter.

    By the time it filters through managers to the devs, they probably know it’ll be a horrible experience, but what are they going to do? It’s not their job. They’ll get brushed off. There might even be a compelling reason to do it in this way - with this in particular, annoying and intrusive popups are malicious compliance with the EU cookie laws. But everyone seems to be doing it this way - that’s probably what legal is going to recommend rather than interpreting the law themselves

    So the problem is the structure. If you want a hierarchy of obedient replaceable cogs, you’ve made sure no one sees the full picture

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  • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    on top of what others have said - directing you to the app and login - it’s also likely just that teams don’t talk and make decisions that solve their local issue

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• Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  GIVE US YOUR DATA GIVE US YOUR DATA GIVE US YOUR DATA

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  • DanForever@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    PLEASE HERE TAKE IT

    ~Just please stop yelling at me~

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• heavy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I will say that the Google Auth prompt in particular is just this huge nuisance and a horrible experience. People should feel stupid for including it in their web experience.

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  • gwilikers@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait, how can I get rid of google auth pop-ups? I got Ublock but they still come up whenever I go to a reddit page.

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    • vanontom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The “Sign in with Google” popups on virtually every site? It’s nuts. I was just trying to figure this out today. Try these or these.

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  • yum@lemmy.eco.br ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait, people choose to put it in their website??

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    • essteeyou@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes. How else would it get there?

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• AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If this was your webpage 15 years ago, you’d be almost certain that you’d been infected with malware.

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  • BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I really really do miss old school internet and feel kinda bad for people who never get to experience it. I know i sound like a cunt, and maybe it’s just nostalgia, but when the internet was bound to a computer and it was mainly “nerds” using it, it was such a better time. I remember a time where the internet was fast enough for pictures and small videos, but having your own picture somehow on the internet was witchcraft to me. Scanner, cameras who are digital whaaat? Now most of the internet is ads and pictures of people who i don’t give a shit about. People’s opinion, picture of people, fuck off bring back the time where the internet was either forums or someone’s weird website, where you only stumbled upon because you typed in a web adress i. The hopes it leads you somewhere.

    I had a girlfriend who was truly fascinated by the fact that i don’t have social media and that i’m not “on the internet” like she didn’t find me and my stupid face anywhere on the web. She was often wondering what i was doing on the internet if i don’t have social media, because that was the internet to her. Facebook, instagram, tiktok and youtube.

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    • lorty@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Whenever I get to a webpage that looks a decade old (like most recently Ventoy) I get hit with a wave of nostalgia. Yeah, it might not look great or be very responsive to my actions, but my god does it feel great to just get thebinfo you need front and center.

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    • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      . She was often wondering what i was doing on the internet if i don’t have social media, because that was the internet to her

      ~ shudders ~

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  • Clbull@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There was a screenshot I once saw of a Chinese netizen’s web browser in the late-2000’s, using Internet Explorer 6 and tonnes of third-party toolbars. I think I saw it back when Digg was still a thing. We’ve now reached the age where major websites are more cluttered with notifications than a malware-infected browser was 15 years ago, and where everybody is tracking everything that you do online.

    We legitimately drove RealNetworks into the ground for a lot less than what we’re allowing Google, Microsoft, Meta, X, etc to get away in the modern day.

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  EU: “You can’t just collect people’s data, you have to ask permission first and give people the opportunity to decline.”

  Site Developers: “Fine, but we’re going to comply in the most malicious manner possible.”

  HEY DO YOU WANT COOKIES ARE YOU SURE PLEASE HIT THE BIG BLUE BUTTON FOR COOKIES THEY ARE HELPFUL AND GOOD PLEASE GIVE COOKIES!!!

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’d be fun if the EU started policing any use of the phrase “We are required to show this dialog”.

    They’re not. They choose to show that dialog so that they can try to apply commercial tracking cookies. Anything for website function is already covered by EU laws.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There have been a couple of changes to the rule since it came into effect. Originally, the pop up could effectively occlude the “Do Not Enable Cookies” button behind a maze of “Optional” settings. The end result was a big colorful “I Consent” button and a tiny little gear button with a thousand manual checkboxes to uncheck every time you visited the site.

      The regulations were updated since. Now these annoying pop-ups at least tend to have a clearly defined “Yes, I Consent” / “No, I Do Not” at equal scale and opposite color, allowing you to bypass it without going into the weeds on a configuration screen.

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  • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s hilarious on a widescreen setup how many websites aren’t adaptive but that cookie pop-up blocks 3/4 in 5000% font size.

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• Sludgehammer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Visiting the corpse of Twitter was your first mistake

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  • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Digital necrophilia…

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• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We can sell 80 percent of the screen without inducing seizures!

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  • KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    *without reaching statistically relevant levels of seizure induced deaths.

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    • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      *without being sued for more than we would make from seizure induced deaths

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• flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This kind of thing getting worse and worse at all levels of tech is increasingly pushing me to the fringes of tech solutions (with all of the handicaps that come with that) as those are getting to be the only places where this kind of things is not pervasive.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yup, I’m in exactly the same boat. I just got a new phone and decided to not install any banking apps whatsoever. I got a check in the mail, and instead of giving in and installing the app, I just drove a mile to an ATM. NBD, and I don’t have to see endless nags about banking features, credit scores, etc.

    I’m not part of your system… MAN!, but actually serious.

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    • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have found that local banks like credit unions, and such, seem to have nicer mobile apps from my experience.

      I have worked as a software engineer for a place like this, and the development was a lot more honest. These kind of places normally just want a pleasant user experience for their customers, unlike bigger banks that want to deploy all sorts of dark patterns to collect user data and sell extra stuff to their customers.

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  • troyunrau@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    At least you can force desktop mode on most sites. No mobiles apps, desktop mode on phone. Usually.

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  • harsh3466@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m headed in that direction.

    • Minimal apps on my phone, most of them foss apps to access my self hosted services
    • Raspberry pi 4 running osmc connected to our TV. TV itself has no internet connection
    • Want to move to graphene os, but riding this iphone 12 mini until it dies
    • Linux on my server and my primary computer. Have an M1 Mac Mini that my wife primarily uses (too many papercuts for her with asahi linux. We tried and switched back), and iPadOS on the iPad Pro that I have that I’m also riding until it dies.

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• Mio@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The different popups just show how bad design the web is today.

  Ask cookie question is required.

  Login? Always create an account and proceed with all signup questions.

  Agreement? Read them 1 hour until you have understood everything.

  Webbrowser: can I get your location? And please the mic and video too!

  Finally, don’t forget the ads!

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  • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Agreement? Read them 1 hour until you have understood everything.

    I one time for fun (cause I’m insane) read the entire Windows license agreement and MSA (Microsoft Services Agreement). It took me over 1 hour

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    • DemonVisual@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I could imagine they’d be interested in you over here: Tosdr.org

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Back on my Xbox 360 I decided to scroll through the agreement just to see how long it would take. I didn’t read it: I just held down the stick to see how long it would take.

      I gave up after 40 minutes of scrolling.

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    • DanForever@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thank you for your sacrifice

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    • Mio@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wow. Is it even legal to have it that long?

      I bet a lot was of details were missing in there as well.

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  • Spaniard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ask cookie question is required.

    Thank the European bureaucrats that don’t understand technology.

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    • my_hat_stinks@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, it’s the website’s fault. You only need explicit consent if you’re tracking users beyond what your service obviously requires to function, the problem is these sites are stalking you.

      And if it’s even slightly harder to decline than to accept they’re likely not in compliance anyway so it’s definitely not the EU’s fault.

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    • graff@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure, but can we at least agree that 800 “partners” is a tad too much?

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• umbraroze@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Did someone say… cookies?

  I can just tell that whenever Twitter’s user interface has weak attempts at humour, it was put there during the previous ownership, and that just makes me sad.

  Like when you delete your account the final message says “#Goodbye”, I was tearing up, thinking, like, shit, Musk really fucked everything up, did he?

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  • rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Musk made it even worse but Twitter was already shit before Musk

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  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Musk really fucked everything up, did he?

    Other than no longer being able to use an app to access twitter, I haven’t noticed anything else changing for the worse. They even made the “media” tab into grid rather than list which was a welcome update.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How about just the userbase? I’d say that changed for the worse. A lot worse. And if you don’t think so, I hope you enjoy yelling about Jews at your next khakis and tiki torches march.

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• henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It took long enough but the pop-ups evolved into new pop-ups.

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• Gsus4@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Anybody know why google has a popup on every major website now? And more importantly, how to get rid of that without creating an account?

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  • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    uBlock Filter:

    ||smartlock.google.com
    ||accounts.google.com/gsi/$3p
    ||id.google.com^

    ||accounts.google.com/gsi/*$xhr,script,3p.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You mean uBlock Origin, right?

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    • Gsus4@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It works 🫡

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• hightrix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That screenshot looks like the old screenshots from the early browser wars with 20 toolbars stacked.

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• treadful@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s kind of bothersome how almost blind I am to them now. I habitually find a way to close them without having to read or focus my eyes on anything. That’s not to say it isn’t still an annoyance.

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• harsh3466@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I LOATHE that fucking google sign in overlay.

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• superkret@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A porn site a friend of mine sometimes visits pops up a “sign in with Google” banner when you visit without annoyance blocker, and a “like this on Facebook” when you open a video.

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• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  web 1.0 wasn’t flashy but it got the point across. bring it back.

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• sunbytes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The absolute lack of any kind of consistency with layout or alignment makes me cringe too.

  It’s just shows how they’re just glued onto the page with no care or planning. Especially no consideration to the user or user experience.

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• glowie@h4x0r.host ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  xcancel.com ftw

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• 0x0@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Gemini is an attempt at trying to bring the old web back, although with some technical limitations.

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• bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The corporates keep finding ways to reintroduce the same shitty popup ads from the 90s to defeat whatever’s been put in place to keep it from happening. Absolutely no sense of nuance. It’s not the specific delivery mechanism users dislike, it’s the whole terrible UX pattern. Stop trying to make me do shit that’s not what I’m trying to do!

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• Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  X gon give it to ya

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• eddy_bola@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hahaha I had the exact same reaction and made an almost identical screenshot of this eyecancer…Image

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• Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is the digital equivalent of walking through an open air market and having salespeople harass and follow you trying to sell something

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• urheber@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  try opening fanwiki in a phone

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• SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I set 2 different people up with revanced over the weekend. I thought I’d typed in the wrong URL because I’m on Firefox mobile and both of them are on Chrome mobile. Literally looks like an entirely different site. On Chrome it’s got a big fancy logo at the top, ads…fucking…everywhere…
  On Firefox(with various blockers and anti trackers etc etc) it’s a plain white page with a bold title and small blurb then links to the various apks. Took me a minute to even figure out where the link for the manager was…

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• Underwaterbob@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Never thought I’d miss frames. Though really, I always why exactly they got dogpiled into nonexistence. Formatting issues?

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• mox@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  xcancel.com/HexOS_Official

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