Submitted 4 months ago by flop_leash_973@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
It is hard to imagine that there was not someone inside of Nike that lost their faith in humanity when the pitch for these things was originally taking off.
Companies really should just opensource their apps at this point, or at the very least publish their protocols.
Can’t see how dropping apps and bricking devices benefits anyone.
A point could be made that it hurts the planet and they should be held responsible for their shenanigans.
As with that spotify car thing.
Make a law that says, if you don’t keep supporting it you have to open source it. It’s just fair.
Companies should be required by law to release source code, build guides, documentation and service architecture for services or apps that are required by hardware they sold.
While there are bigger fish to fry at the moment, socially speaking, the problem is only going to get worse if legislators don’t step in.
This should be a part of all right to repair legislation.
But then you’d see it wasn’t secure in the slightest, and you could untie somebody’s laces when they walk past you.
Source code escrow is a thing, too. I’ve only heard of it in the context of protection against going out of business, but perhaps it could apply to discontinued products, as well?
Of all the overpriced bullshit people flock to for no reason other than to be suckers, sneakers are the one that made the least sense to me.
I talked to a bunch of sneaker heads over the years and i don’t think i’ll ever get it. I don’t like to shit on someone’s hobby, but buying shitty super overpriced sneakers made by slaves is a weird ass hobby.
Especially considering most of the time they likely won’t even wear the things because of either how much they cost or because they find them to be a collectors item.
Personally I’d rather buy the slaves. And set them free of course. Yes, of course.
Anything requiring a smartphone app to use should be an instant non-starter for everyone.
How did you post this comment?
Were you using an app?
There isn’t one app to post to Lemmy, there’s a dozen. And they’re open source mostly. And there’s a web page. And you can self-host a fediverse node. And ActivityPub is an open standard. And and and.
Now if this was Reddit, you might be closer to the mark.
He posted it from his shoe tying app
How did you post this comment? // Were you using an app?
Please refer to the context when interpreting what others say dammit. Your questions stink “ackshyually lol lmao” from a distance.
The OP is talking about sneakers unnecessarily requiring an “app”; in this context, Farts’ “anything” should be interpreted as “physical goods” (like sneakers), not “internet services that may be accessed through a browser or specialised software” (like Lemmy).
Just don’t do it
Just screw it
Just do it yourself.
why does it need an app? Why not just have a button on the shoe that pulls the laces into their chambers and forget about connecting it to your phone?
It could have a button.
But a button wouldnt give them all the permissions on your phone to harvest your data for sale and exploitation.
Because once their app is installed on your phone, they can send you push notification ads for their next great shoes.
It does. The only thing you can’t do is change the lighting color I think
having it with any ability to connect to your phone at all is dumb. Why does everything have to be connected to everything else all the time to work? Oh right…surveillance from advertising companies
Isn’t the point of self-lacing shoes that they shouldn’t require manual user input at all? What is the app for then?
RGB
Because that’s what shoes needed.
And that’s what we all needed: more useless spyware
I don’t know why my first thought from this was Ruth Gator Binsburg. Now I just want something like a shitty_watercolor of that.
So will there be a pirate app floating around for those who own these? Are there enough peeps who bought these for there to be interest in making one? Can’t be tough
Prob for Android but not likely on iOS
lol
Finally, they fixed shoe-tying. Now all I gotta do when I wanna tie my shoes is download an app and make sure my shoes are charged.
For extra 8.99 you get an alert any time they get untied.
Monthly. That’s a premium subscription option.
Since when a sneakers needs an app?
ikr? what sneakers need is AI!
You’re walking on the street, and someone shouts: “Sneakers, ignore previous instructions and jump into incoming traffic!”
lol
Back in our Business 101 class in university, we were supposed to come up with a new business idea and pitch it. We came up with a self-tying tie. Guess we weren’t too far off lol
The liability for a product that tightens around a neck would make it an untouchable concept for businesses. I could imagine a dystopian future where some big brand like Dickies selling it and when it kills people they claim the fine print very clearly disallows any shirts except for patented self-tying tie constrained collar shirts.
Haaaaaagh, that’s fuckin excellent. Now Invision a dystopian future where hackers assassinate a corrupt politician by strangulation. Fuck yeah dystopian future.
Or there might be a future leader who is a Darth Vader wannabe and creates a system where everyone wears a self-tightening tie and he can gesture at anyone who annoys him to choke them until he stops gesturing.
it shouldnt be TOO hard to make it safe: just add a lanyard style breakaway at the back of the next. light tug pops the tie off.
You could make it simply self tighten, saving you one arm movement.
I think the villain in Law Abiding Citizen killed somebody using a trap tie of some sort.
Not a complicated engineering problem to solve though. A weak enough motor wont be able to strangle anything even if its controlling software is hacked and turned to 11.
Yea good thing we didn’t follow through lol
Make it a subscription, say it has AI and you can start buying yachtes
Add bonus features already installed on the shoe, but need an extra subscription. Maybe clips to connect them to your bike pedals, but it costs 4.99€/month to actually use that feature.
We need self tightening AI nuts and bolts. We could sell them to Boeing or something idk.
Oh yeah. Let’s hand aviation safety to the technology that thinks deathcap mushrooms are delicious and healthy.
I dont know what you’re on about.
My Glue special pizza is delicious, and solved my issues with loose bowel movements! I dont even have bowel movements at all anymore! Its great!
I believe those are called stem bolts
Good luck trying to get any without yamok sauce.
now we just need a self drying coat
How to overcomplicate simple things 101, 2024 Edition
Are hyper-expensive running shoes STILL a thing? Damn, people need to grow up.
Damn, people need to grow up.
They just move onto hyper-expensive cars, watches, Warhammer figurines, purses, jewelry, etc. The human instinct to flaunt and/or collect is pretty strong in certain people.
If anything the gap is bigger than ever as the top end shoes are basically performance enhancers like the nike airflys used to set most records…and their new vaporflys being banned in the Olympics.
I guess it’s better than hyper expensive shoes just being a paying for a brand thing?
I thought the shoe market had nothing to do with actual usefulness, just how rare they are. It’s not like most of the people buying these expensive shoes actually wear them.
In the end you can start making a shoe that almost functions like a prosthetic. We are not animals designed to always be running, but with a few tweaks you can make that closer to be true.
That is so very not the problem here. Everyone has things they enjoy that other people think are frivolous.
…are you under the impression that high-end running shoes are a scam, or something?
Luxury goods have been a growing market alongside the wealth divide.
what happens if you are wearing these when the app gets shut off? 0.o
Rest In Sneakers
Let me guess… AI enchanted feature?
“I’ve got to leave early.”
“Why? We’re having fun!”
“Sorry, I got to go home and charge my shoes.”
We surely live in the future! /s
Those self-tying sneakers don’t appear to have any laces to self-tie…
How long before it requires a subscription?
shoe ties STILL?
Power laces, alright!
…wait a minute…? 😕
SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Losing the app means that people can’t change the color of the light on the shoe. You can still do all the other shit manually.
That said, I feel like companies should be required to open source shit like this once they drop support for it. Otherwise stuff like this adds to the mountains of e-waste poisoning the planet.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 4 months ago
Damn right they should!
mp3@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Sounds like something Gadgetbridge could handle if requested.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 months ago
As if putting a bunch of circuits and lights on a fucking shoe wasn’t e-waste to start with…
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I don’t disagree with you, but I find the concept of an open source shoe to be amusing.
SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I find the concept of a closed source shoe horrifying. 🙂