They’ve done better for us by just being trees than being turned into war ships, anyway.
Better late than never.
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TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
This is also how England Good the New Forest.
pseudo@jlai.lu 7 hours ago Smart Danes. You never know when your country will need timber in large quantity. Back then, France king used up all our oaks to fail in naval wars. In 2027, our oak population still haven’t recovered.
Meanwhile Finnish forest are gueting destroyed for data center… *sight*
BoosBeau@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
how tf you posting this from 2027?
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Time zones + daylight savings.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
In fairness, Finland has more trees now than 100 years ago.
Part of it though is from not letting companies pull bullshit like Google did. Whether this fuckass government will do shit about it though…
Klear@piefed.world 7 hours ago
Me when playing Timberborn:
jdr@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
You’ve just got to plant them earlier, like 1000 years earlier
oce@jlai.lu 8 hours ago They should use some of it to rebuild a historical war ship for experimental research and coolness like they did for the French Hermione that carried General La Fayette to the USA in 1780 to join the American Revolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_frigate_Hermione_(2014)
TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Capitalism is slowly strangling any hope of this sort of thing. We need to rein in capitalism hard before we’ll get cool stuff like this again. If a case can’t be made for how a new expensive thing will make the rich richer, then it doesn’t happen.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
That is not late. Oaks are slow growing trees, a timeline of 200 years is expected for them.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
i think this is also why conifers are so popular for timber these days, grows much faster. AFAIK something like pine takes maybe 40 years until it can be harvested.
snooggums@piefed.world 3 hours ago
40 year mature conifers also have completely different properties and is subpar for the things oak is great for. A conifer won’t work as a mast for example. Fast grown confiers will rot like crazy.
They work well enough for situations where they are protected from the elements, which is why they are used in construction. But an old house made from slow growth, espicially a lot of hardwoods, won’t instantly rot when water gets in.
SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk 6 hours ago
Think about how long it took to grow when carving wood. Then you fuck it up and ruin it. A tree older than the oldest relative you can remember died for this and you ruined it.
At some point I do want to buy some proper wood rather than using broken fence panels, but then it costs money.
TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
This is why I only use fast-growing, purpose-harvested pine.
This, and the “costs money” part. You either have an entire lumber mill in your garage, or you buy the expensive, pre-milled stuff. There’s no way wood furniture is cheap. It’s like if they can’t sell us the finished furniture, they’re going to get their profit from the materials to build it.
Fuck Capitalism, and the billionaires who leech from us.
JamieDub86@piefed.social 6 hours ago
It’s late if you want to build a warship out of them. Environmentally though, it’s fantastic.
Arancello@aussie.zone 8 hours ago
i love reading these things about history. Too often we say glib things about a country or culture without knowing the history. We should all read history!
TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Eh. We should pay a bit more attention to Historians, I suppose?
The thing about historic records is they were written by biased sources who can’t be vetted now. And, we’re constantly destroying records. Plus, the Historians themselves are biased.
All we can do now is pick an interpretation and either agree or disagree. The majority rules, but is not always right, as we know. You can learn history in classes, and the professor will profess. You can read the documents provided--those that are left, and translated to your language, and therein lies more issues--and come to your own conclusions, influenced by what your professor professed, of course. And, then you’ve Learned History, but what do you really know? And, so it goes with education. We can only learn from the past in the present. It’s not useless, of course, but it shouldn’t be made out to be more than it is. It’s not gospel, either.
Hell, we can’t even agree about things that happened in living memory, take the George Floyd situation.
Go ahead and downvote me.
lime@feddit.nu 6 hours ago
fun history fact, denmark has like the record in number of wars fought with other countries.
Rothe@piefed.social 4 hours ago
No that is not true. I think you are confusing it with the fact that Denmark and Sweden has the record for two countries which has been in war with each other the most.
I guarantee you that the UK for example was in more wars in the 19th century alone than Denmark has participated in for centuries.
JamieDub86@piefed.social 6 hours ago
Foster, don’t let USA hear this.
obstbert@feddit.org 7 hours ago
I usually do not look at the history, but rather at the documentation.
saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Everyone laughed until the Danish armada blackened the horizon.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
As it burned
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
In 1573 the Spanish navy besieged the lakes and rivers around Haarlem, eventually routing the Dutch independence movement in a prolonged sea battle.
Today it’s the location of Schilpol airport.
tracelr402@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
It’s umm, Schiphol and not Schilpol
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
It’s “um” not “umm”. /s
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
Use up all your precious resources in the dumbest way possible. I’m looking at y’all rare earth users!
Now live in pain.
Varesti@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
I heard rare earth materials aren’t actually rare or uncommon, they’re just extremely difficult to process.