Bluesky saw this exodus of people from Twitter show up, and it was a very, very common crowd. … But little by little, they started asking Jay and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it. That was the second moment I thought, uh, nope. This is literally repeating all the mistakes we made as a company.”
This is the same problem that all these “free speech platforms” keep running into. Some people will abuse free speech - if nothing else, I think everyone can agree spam is a type of abusive speech. But the difference between abusive speech and ordinary speech isn’t a sharp line, and the definitions of “abuse” will vary. So there needs to be some mechanism or rules for deciding what that line is. But all the people that create these platforms instead wanna pretend that line doesn’t exist, so they don’t create a means of determining it. So then “abuse” becomes whatever the users demand and/or the decisionmakers decide it is. Which is exactly the same as having no free speech to begin with.
maxenmajs@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Actually, Jack Dorsey may be the problem. Good to see him shift focus to that “free speech”, pro-cryptocurrency platform Nostr. I see it like a containment zone for the worst people.
tal@lemmy.today 5 months ago
I think that it’s hard to find a level of content control that everyone is happy with. I’d favor fewer restrictions.
But that’s one thing that’s nice about the Threadiverse model – it’s federated. You can have one set of restrictions on one instance, and another on another.
Beehaw has pretty good conversation. I enjoy my discussions on their communities. It also has an extremely low bar for defederation – it’s defederated with even lemmy.world. I don’t like that, would not use that as my home instance.
My home instance is lemmy.today. The admin there is aiming for not defederating with anyone. I like that. But…not everyone wants that.
Point is, there can be multiple levels of content moderation on the Threadiverse, both at the instance and community level, and people who have different preferences can have the level of moderation that they want. Some people take a free-speech-absolutist position. Others want a safe space. Some people don’t want pornography on their forums. Some people only want certain types of pornography. Some people take issue with certain types of political radicalism. Some people want to associate with Threads users, and others do not.
I think that that’s maybe the best of all worlds.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I agree, I have accounts on different lemmy servers depending on what slice of fedi I want to expose myself to.
eee@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Haha that’s an instance I haven’t heard about in a while… I personally blocked it because I want to talk to everyone on lemmy, not just half the population, and they’ve defederated from the largest instances.
And i guess that’s the good thing about the lemmyverse - you decide what level of control you want.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 months ago
The phrase you’re looking for is “echo chamber”.