Has anyone bought from here before? Looking to upgrade my NAS drives.
They’re generally highly regarded.
12TB for $80 - serverpartdeals.com
Submitted 7 months ago by calmluck9349@infosec.pub to selfhosted@lemmy.world
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VelociCatTurd@lemmy.world 7 months ago
sorghum@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Censorship of words makes me not know which definition of regarded you are using.
stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 7 months ago
I too like posting cryptic, non-detailed complaints with minimal to no explanation, logic, or rationale for the express intent to sow confusion and chaos while simultaneously standing for nothing
yokonzo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Dude what are you even trying to say here
Kowowow@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Oh like the stonk apes
Grntrenchman@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Reposting as top level comment also: these are PWDIS drives: if you’re not using them somewhere with sata 3.2/3.3, you need to use an adapter for the power plug, or some tape, to block pins 1-3 (3.3v) as supplying it to these causes them to reset. Might be worth doing the taping anyway, if you’re using an enclosure or cage (where you can’t use the adapters) Just be aware.
knova@infosec.pub 7 months ago
When I bought some of these earlier this year, the re-seller included an adapter that blocked those pins to prevent the reset issue. Didn’t know what they were for at first and almost tossed them. (I should have read the included slip of paper)
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
As someone who regularly ships items with a slip of paper meant to be read, this was infuriating to read. Lmao
yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
How do I know if I’m using data 3.2/3.3 vs something else?
I have one of these in the 8 TB variant that I use for backup purposes, and I plug it into one of those USB docks, like this one.
Mir@programming.dev 7 months ago
Are these good for a home server that would be always on?
ashok36@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve done the tape thing before. It was a little bit of a pain but not that hard.
proper@lemmy.world 7 months ago
the drives I’ve purchased from them in the past have been great considering they’re used server parts.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 months ago
considering they’re used server parts.
That really should be in the title…
I dunno, I’m one of those people who never stops using a drive until it breaks, and they never really break anymore. Oldest in my current PC is probably 20 year old HDD.
So yeah, these probably are fine and will still last a long time. But for like $20 more you don’t have to worry about losing the data on it.
Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 7 months ago
Where do you get a 12 tb drive for $100?
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 7 months ago
They’re much cheaper than $20 off a new drive. I bought a 14TB WD server drive from them within the last year for less than it cost me to get an 8TB Elements/Easystore on sale back in 2018. It was easily 50% of the new price for a similar drive.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Not to sound snarky or anything, but since when do prices go down? If people were willing to pay the inflated price, there’s no incentive for them not to make that the new standard.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 7 months ago
A 12 TB drive is literally 300€ now.
I don’t think it was EVER 100€ for a 12TB, certainly not helium filled. Prices during covid went up, but not even near 3x for hard dives.
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This post is like fate. Just yesterday I came to the conclusion my HDD in my aging PC is going screwy.
proper@lemmy.world 7 months ago
These guys have deals all the time, I see them pop up on slickdeals a lot
Mora@pawb.social 7 months ago
Would love to buy some, but shipping to EU is too expensive.
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 7 months ago
I had a similar issue with instruments once, because Thomann is cheaper by a factor of 10 to USA equivalents.
Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Thomann crew checking in! Bought my first “real” guitar from them and she’s still my favourite despite being given a Les Paul by Bowling For Soup this year. I really should play that baby
Mazuu@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve used vykingship, a shipping forwarder, before to ship from US to EU. it basically gives you an us address to ship things to and they will ship it to you.
I’ve found their rates are usually cheaper than direct from the store.
Of course customs and duty charges will still apply.
Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
I just bought two of their 12TB for $100 each and they were the manufactured recertified. One had like 8 hours run time and the second had like 36 hours so brand new for the lifetime of a hard drive. So far no issues. Also beware these drives are very loud.
bear@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
Refurbished drives get their SMART data reset during the process, they absolutely had more than that originally.
Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Oh wow I did not know that.
That’s absolutely terrifying. Like resetting the speedometer for used cars.
Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
I think there is a difference on Refurbished drives and Manufactured recertified. On server part deals the prices were different and manufactured recertified being a little more expensive for the same drive. So I assumed the drives were send back from a data center and tested again but they cant be spelled as new.
HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
[deleted]cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Don’t use raid 5. It hasn’t been recommended for like a decade. Use 6 at minimum if you value your data.
Mir@programming.dev 7 months ago
Is this a normal sound for it? sndup.net/bpx9/
Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Yeah I think that’s normal , I moved my NAS to a closet because of how loud the drives are. I wasn’t even able to sleep with that noise lol
daniskarma@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I really wish we had a service like this on Europe.
I know they ship to Europe. But shipping costs are prohibitive for small buys.
Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Plus tax. Finland is stopping everything from outside EU and demanding proof that tax is paid. So I have to look at the prices with postage and add 24%.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
And here I thought Germany had it bad with 19%…
B0rax@feddit.de 7 months ago
Look on eBay, there are oftentimes some from server farm providers like hetzner
original2@lemmy.world 7 months ago
cynar@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Depressingly, that’s around 2x the cost/Tb.
henfredemars@infosec.pub 7 months ago
What’s the catch? Is there a catch?
BillDaCatt@lemmy.world 7 months ago
These are used drives that have about 35K hours (4 years) of power on time. Good quality drives to be sure, but maybe not as reliable now as they once were.
amorpheus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It just means they’ve survived the first part of the bathtub curve. To me that’s a bonus.
catloaf@lemm.ee 7 months ago
That’s why you buy extras and put them in RAID or zfs!
dogma11@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Refurbished drive. I’ve had 4 white label drives running for a number of years without issue, planning on eventually getting 12 more and maxing out my servers.
Unfortunately that’s years down the line :(Grntrenchman@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
2nd catch, behind the power on time: PWDIS drives: if you’re not using them somewhere with sata 3.2/3.3, you need to use an adapter for the power plug, or some tape, to block pins 1-3 (3.3v) as supplying it to these causes them to reset. Might be worth doing the taping anyway, if you’re using an enclosure or cage (where you can’t use the adapters)
ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They are also enterprise drives which consume slightly more power and more importantly generate more noise/clicking sounds on average when compared to a consumer drive. Depending on where you were planning to install them, it might not be the best option.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I * think * those were the brand I bought?
Regardless, 80 for 12 TB is a steal.
Mir@programming.dev 7 months ago
How are the doing so far?
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 months ago
No issues what’s so ever. Have them in a four drivE QNAS. I was a bit concerned about them being cheaper drives initially but after I got them installed I literally haven’t thought about them again in terms of reliability.
0 complaints and they seem to be doing about as well as some more expensive drives might be.
Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 7 months ago
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters NAS Network-Attached Storage RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
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Takahe@lemmy.nz 7 months ago
Interest to know this too, deal appears too good…
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
If the deal is too good to be true, it probably is.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
6gb sas is regularly found for 30-40$. 80$ for 12gb sounds reasonnable. And you’ll save 50% power per GB
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I dunno, 80 for a Hitachi seems a little low, but not too good.
Not sure I’d buy one used tho.
Gabu@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Read it as 120TB at first and my eyes nearly jumped out of their sockets.
arin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
12 TB for $80 is a deal for me! My 8tb was around $200 to $300 in 2021
InternetUser2012@midwest.social 7 months ago
It’s “refurbed” by the seller. It also says it has approximately 35,000 hours on it. That’s 4 years of continual use. I wouldn’t trust that with anything.
xlash123@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Do HDDs noticably degrade when powered off? I’m thinking about getting one of these for cold storage. Also, how much of an impact does repeated power cycling have on lifespan?
force@lemmy.world 7 months ago
HDDs are your best option for long-term storage. Every storage mechanism fails eventually but HDDs are convenient, last long, and have excellent data recovery.
Gabu@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They do, but not so much that your average home user would notice without having more than enough time to fix the problem.
Davel23@fedia.io 7 months ago
I have six 14TB drives in my NAS from serverpartdeals. Never had a problem with any of them.
ElCanut@jlai.lu 7 months ago
If I may, what do you do with 84TB in your Nas ?
angry_kittten@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve bought a fair amount of drives from them and have had no issues, just today I got in some seagate exos 2x18 drives from them and their packaging was as professional ever.
ptz@dubvee.org 7 months ago
Thanks for the post. I just bought 4 of them as a stopgap.
bamboo@lemm.ee 7 months ago
How noisy are these? I have a pair of shucked WD drives that should be equivalent to reds, and they’re pretty noisy in my otherwise quiet home office. Given they’re only 8TB, upgrading them to SSDs for full silence is something in considering as soon as the pricing and availability permits.
eatfudd@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I bought wd red pros since people said they were quiet. I think they were comparing them to these type of enterprise drives because they are absolutely not quiet when seeking. I wouldn’t mind drives like this if they were in a closet or away from me but my nas is in my office/guest bedroom. I’ve since replaced the pros with red plus and they are MUCH quieter.
SaltySalamander@fedia.io 7 months ago
I've since replaced the pros with red plus and they are MUCH quieter.
They're also slower.
Corgana@startrek.website 7 months ago
They are very noisy. Enterprise drives are not the same as consumer drives. I would not recommend using them in a room you are trying to focus in.
Player2@lemm.ee 7 months ago
It looks like NAND and therefore SSD pricing is trending up currently due to some supply limitations. If you want to get some large drives it might be best to try to do it soon, or be prepared for a wait/inflated pricing.
bamboo@lemm.ee 7 months ago
As far as I know there is only one SSD model that meets my criteria (Samsung 870 QVO 8TB), and at $520 right now so I’ve decided it’s best to wait. I’d like it to be quieter but not so badly as to spend $1k on it (need two).
Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 7 months ago
A hell of a deal
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 7 months ago
I’ve bought one drive from them so far (14TB WD) and haven’t had any issues thus far after 8 or 12 months.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
yes
UsefulIdiot@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Ah hell. For that price I grabbed 4. I think the same source is selling on newegg as well for a similar price.
UmbraTemporis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Oh you’re gonna make me act up 💳
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Looks juicy
OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 7 months ago
Ooh! Thanks for the tip! Been looking for some affordable drives for my next system.
I bought a LFF Dell Poweredge back in the fall, and have been waiting on a good deal for 3.5" disks. My current machine is a SFF HP Proliant, and I hate how much a 2.5" drive with good capacity costs.
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 7 months ago
That’s about 4 years of power on time. Considering they’re enterprise grade equipment, they should still be good for many years to come, but it is worth taking into consideration.
I’ve bought from these guys before, packaging was super professional. Card board box with special designed drive holders made of foam; each drive is also individually packed with anti-static bags and silica packs.
Highly recommend.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 7 months ago
All my server drives come to me with these many hours and truck on for many years.
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 7 months ago
This is pretty standard for enterprise equipments — comes with some amount of years of warranty, enterprises depreciate the cost over that many years and sell them as/before the warranty expires to get whatever value they can get (as far as books concerned, they’re already depreciated to $0 anyway).
Mir@programming.dev 7 months ago
Is this a normal sound for it? sndup.net/bpx9/
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 7 months ago
Pretty sure that’s the usual preventive wear clicking sound that’s just part of newer drives’ design…?
jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Came here to ask about the hours. Some quick searching looked like 5 years is an average time to failure, but that might have been for lower-grade hardware?
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 7 months ago
Backblaze has drives with very similar models in service, has an annualized failure rate of less than 1% on average, and have been in service for 5 years. The average age will continue to rise as usage time continues to rack up.