I’m only in if it comes with a clippy skin.
Eww, Copilot AI might auto-launch with Windows 11 soon
Submitted 7 months ago by VITecNet@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2301770/eww-copilot-might-auto-launch-with-windows-soon.html
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realitista@lemm.ee 7 months ago
arin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Ahead of it’s time by decades
fossphi@lemm.ee 7 months ago
So seductive
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 months ago
Perhaps I’m just brain dead, I’ve been accused of it often enough, but I can’t figure out what the stupid thing is good for.
Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
That depends; do you mean good for the user, or good for the company? 😉
Rinox@feddit.it 7 months ago
I don’t know, isn’t it a huge money sink rn?
menemen@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I don’t really like it, but it can defintly be used as a dumb assistant. E.g. if you want to write an email or a small script to analyze some data, you cann tell it what you need, specify the details, take the results, correct them and then use the results. You still have to do much of the work, but if you do it correctly you’ll save time. BUT: It’ll safe all of that. Don’t do this with sensitive data and don’t do this for work without official permission of the employer.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
This is my experience. It creates a starting point for emails and things but it’s not at all “intelligent”.
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Spying on you. Influencing your results.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
Depending on which CoPilot, quite a lot to be honest.
My company uses it at work integrated into Visual Studio Professional.
It saves countless hours, especially when you work on enterprise software and have set up good coding standards, best practices, and techniques; as it learns from your code and will offer suggestions based on how we do things.
Like most TypeScript components we build are going to require loading some data via a hook, and calling these hooks is pretty consistent. So now I basically write my comment // load the data and boom no boring writing the same thing.
We save that much time on mundane tasks that we can actually spend more time learning new things or innovating.
That’s before we even get into the tool my boss build that will allow us to create all the schema and hooks for a new model which would normally be 30-45 mins of mundane copy and paste and replace.
Snowyday@startrek.website 7 months ago
I’m a knowledge worker in a large multinational and I’m using copilot daily if not hourly. I think it’ll help a lot of office workers simplify basic tasks
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Lately I’ve been using it as a duckduckgo replacement.
…well chatgpt free version, that is. Seems like everyone has an “AI” now.
sudoreboot@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
Don’t do that.
Rinox@feddit.it 7 months ago
It helps sometimes with code, when I can’t find a solution on Google.
jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
I use LLMs when I am trying to reverse lookup a word from a definition. Works better than web searches.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I’ve only been using Linux for a few days. Am I allowed to have a superiority complex yet?
RalfWausE@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
Nah, Linux is too mainstream, its more like a soft drug.
If you want the REAL GOOD STUFF you need to daily drive 9Front.
menemen@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It is bot about mainstream or not, it is a about superiority.
realitista@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I wanted to make a Plan9 joke, didn’t even realize that there were new iterations, cool.
Patches@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
He mentions the good stuff and doesn’t even touch on TempleOS
nicoweio@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve been roaming Linux (meme) communities for years, but never heard of this, even though it originates from the Bell Labs. Thanks for providing me with a new rabbit hole!
moon@lemmy.cafe 7 months ago
Hello and welcome to the Linux club! Remember to always mention Linux as your OS as much as you can and add “btw”.
I run Arch btw.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Done and done, thank you for the warm reception.
I run
archmint btw
jkrtn@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Absolutely, that is legal from the first second of use.
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 months ago
After this news? Don’t feel the smug all atbonce or you will fucking die.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Good to know, I’ll be careful not to indulge too much! Though I did it proper with a Thinkpad as well so I may overdose anyway haha
Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 7 months ago
When did Microsoft forget how to do stuff? No one ever said: Wow! I really, really like being forced to use something! My reaction to being forced to use it didn’t instantly diminish my desire to use this product!
summerof69@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Ultimately, most people stay with the default option, that’s why they have to be aggressive. Look at the amount of screenshots even in advanced PC communities with ugly useless search bar enabled, which is taking 1/3 of the taskbar. I’m not even speaking about casual users who have no idea this can be disabled.
blssflbreeze@lemmy.world 7 months ago
yeah, it’s fucking exhausting to go through and disable the 10’s or 100’s of options they set by default that you don’t want. I have a computer that I have disabled updates on because they kept resetting my deeper configs with updates. I’m not getting another windows computer unless I have to because god that shit took so long to set up.
exanime@lemmy.today 7 months ago
So they have to be aggressive by automatically adding garbage nobody wants because otherwise people won’t bother activating said garbage they don’t want?
frezik@midwest.social 7 months ago
Not sure what you mean. Do you know about Active Desktop in Win98? They’ve been doing shit like this since forever.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Sums it up right there. Goes for most of tech in the past decade or so though. Lots of incremental upgrades and nothing really mind blowing. Imo AI is not. At least not yet.
blssflbreeze@lemmy.world 7 months ago
classic microsoft, shoving things down users’ throats without consent.
exanime@lemmy.today 7 months ago
How else could they ever claim the millions in “adoption” of their products?
It would be the year of Linux on desktop tomorrow if ever known brand of PC came with it preinstalled
Zetta@mander.xyz 7 months ago
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Users not putting their foot down and switching to a different OS is all the consent they need. I dropped windows a few years ago when I felt they were just getting too invasive.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I’ve seen movies about this. Usually there’s tears involved.
cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
I do think that microsoft copilot is good enough for alot of people. I really like it, much more than chat gpt. And that they give you “GPT 4” for free which is cool
Would I love it being forced? No
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Copilot likes you back! Actually it has fallen in love with you. Now it downloads automatically wherever you go. Even in the shower when you’re pretending to not touch yourself. Oh it knows everything! C’mon think about purchasing someth…too late! It’s already delivered! Pilot cancelled your meeting with Stacy Fredrickson. It’s jealous of her. But don’t worry because pilot can have any boob size you prefer. In fact pilot is any ethnicity you are attracted to and is waiting for you in bed right now. Just pick up the various items from the porch to make a sensitive feedback gizmo so you can pilot can be together foreve…30 years or so per the contract. Anyway, Microsoft is proud to present pilot. Pilot would like you to please call her Jessica. And if you use your last name with her, she will get you optimized seating and personalized flight paths.
Centaur@lemmy.world 7 months ago
blssflbreeze@lemmy.world 7 months ago
lol
pufferfisherpowder@lemmy.world 7 months ago
How do you like it better than chat gpt? Isn’t it the same thing?
T156@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not exactly, ChatGPT is OpenAI’s GPT interface. Whereas CoPilot is Microsoft’s, and has a bunch of plugins and tweaks to suit their uses. The underlying model is the same, but not the customisation.
Think of it like different flavours of Android. Samsung, Google, and Nothing all have their own spins, even if they all run Android under the hod.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I wonder if Microsoft will get the point if people keep asking it “Can I use msconfig to disable copilot?”
msconfig for those unaware:
asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Saving for the next time I decide to switch to the windows drive, how ever long that takes
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 months ago
And I notice that after today/yesterday’s update, my Win11 machine “helpfully” put a Copilot icon in my taskbar without asking me. Thanks?
I poleaxed it in the registry. Yes, I saw the toggle in taskbar settings. No, I don’t care. Disable that shit. Get it off my computer.
taggart_mccallister@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Hey has anyone mentioned LiNuX yet??
melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Only way to avoid this shit at this point.
Or use a 20 year old unsupported version of windows?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Issues are:
- Professional audio is nearly nonexistent on Linux, save for some pretty well done API. You’re stuck with default drivers, and the main DAW for Linux (Ardour) interprets the “free and open-source” a little bit liberally (pre-compiled versions are paid, and there’s no guides on how to build them). LMMS fortunately does not suffer from such issues, and is a pretty good free alternative for FL Studio.
- As long as Windows will be mainstream, development needs there too. As a game developer, I prefer to primarily develop on Windows (since most gaming is done there), and I find a lot of issues with how stuff on Linux is being done. And since I found a pretty good debugger for Windows, I also started to prefer that too.
- Linux still suffers from what I call “developer comfort of UX discomfort”. Basically it stems from the devs getting comfortable with bad UX, then refuse to fix it due to a multitude of excuses, including gems like “wanting to avoid spoonfeeding the users” and “introducing users to the beauty of scripting”.
SleepyWheel@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I was pleasantly surpsied by how much audio has improved on Linux when I came back to it this year with Ubuntu studio. Reaper or Bitwig are the way to go. Plugins are the main problem, bridging works OK apparently, but there are some decent native options too
redeyejedi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It already does on my laptop. They also keep setting my default browser back to Edge. I don’t use my laptop much anymore and keeping up with the BS of having to disable stuff I don’t want running has become tiresome to the point where I don’t even want to use it.
I know, I know, something something install Linux! Question I have there is my laptop is a gaming laptop so my question to all you Linux folks is. Can I continue to game using Linux. Will it work with my Nvidia Graphics card and Steam. If so I might consider it.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
GaimDS@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Recently I changed to Linux (running fedora) and I haven’t looked back since. Fuck Windows
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It just suddenly appeared yesterday on my daughter’s Windows 10 notebook. We played with it for like 2 minutes, decided it sucked, never went back. I mean what’s the point of an AI which, when asked, “draw a picture of how stupid you are” (my daughter’s idea) ends the conversation?
PostProcess@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not ANOTHER thing I need to disable when I do a clean install…
Veraxus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Debian + KDE Plasma, folks.
Believe me, you don’t need Windows.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Didn’t they already do this? I thought I remember after a Windows 11 update a couple of months ago I had that copilot shit on the taskbar and auto-enabled.
randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
I don’t know what to think about the rushed inclusion of Copilot. It’s so very very flawed.
The only thing I can think of is that users are training it by using it and therefore Microsoft is getting free labor from you (as well as search/advertising revenue through their lock screens, dynamic as based backgrounds, live tiles, etc).
I think we’re the product here guys.
SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
I think AI is cool, but I hate seeing it forced on everyone. I also hate programs trying to run on startup without me explicitly saying so (cough Discord Teams Spotify Steam Teams MuseHub Teams Slack cough)
gnygnygny@lemm.ee 7 months ago
It looks like Microsoft try to do everything to be hated.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Today I installed arch on my dad’s computer. he can’t use one,but it’s a win nonetheless.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 months ago
I figured it already was on 11 since they’ve added it to 10 also recently. You can at least turn it off pretty easily in 10 (though IDK if that’s just because I have Pro; didn’t need to use the GPM so I assume Home can disable it too).
moon@lemmy.cafe 7 months ago
I’m going to say the L word
paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I assume Copilot is emanating an ear piercing sound as it escapes the confines of her laptop in that thumbnail art.
FaceDeer@fedia.io 7 months ago
What a wonderfully mature and unbiased article to be finding on a technology community.
RalphFurley@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not a fan of it being forced upon anyone but I’ll add lately that I’ve been using it to spit out Python scripts and ansible playbooks to stunning efficiency that makes my life much easier.
I tried Bard last year and it sucked, maybe Gemini is better now. I could see myself paying for one of these eventually, given how much more free time I have with the kids (or at the bar!).
freebee@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I have to work with power automate often (doing that gives me money, don’t judge). They recently did a make-over of the interface where you can make and adjust the flows. They made it even shittier. Didn’t fix any of the obvious super annoying issues with connections and them randomly being broken and stuff. Added copilot tho. Why? Now you can type “i’ld like it to send an e-mail!” instead of selecting the “send an e-mail” action, while taking up a fifth of the screen. Jesus fucking christ wrong priorities.
smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
What I need on Lemmy is more articles about how Windows bad, if I already haven’t know that…
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Suck GPT Wintards!
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Who cares. Only dupes use Windows 11.
bcron@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Lets all scavenge old tech and run vms with Win7 on a ramdisk to deal with all the vulnerabilities
mihnt@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I’m going to say it before anyone else does.
Linux.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Damnit, I came in here to post:
SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Succeeding you, Windows
dinckelman@lemmy.world 7 months ago
As much as i agree, the vast majority of people will just continue using what they had before, and still complain about how nothing works
geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
and the vast majority of Linux Devs will just continue building what they were building before, and still complain how windows users dont migrate to Linux (cough usability cough)
mihnt@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Oh, I agree. I did however manage to talk my mom into letting me put Mint on her PC and she hasn’t complained even once. Small victories.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
Please keep saying that to my bosses until they listen.
mihnt@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I will if you want.
bored_boar_onboard@lemmy.world 7 months ago
These words are accepted!