lol again, Wyze? This happened last year. Love that they’re downplaying it, “we’ve identified only 14 people that were affected.” They have a privacy issue. A big one.
Wyze says camera breach let 13,000 customers briefly see into other people’s homes
Submitted 8 months ago by catculation@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/19/24077233/wyze-security-camera-breach-13000-customers-events
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TheFriar@lemm.ee 8 months ago
solidgrue@lemmy.world 8 months ago
…again.
notannpc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m honestly impressed they are still in business. If the first time it happened didn’t kill them, the second time probably won’t either.
circuscritic@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Using Wyze is a choice that has trade-offs and it’s up to the user to understand what those are.
For example, if you aren’t able, or willing, to selfhost an NVR, then accept that these situations may arise and decide which video feeds are ones you’re willing to take that risk with.
Video feeds of your backyard, are significantly different then those of your bedroom, or living areas.
Snowyday@startrek.website 8 months ago
I’ve got one on the sump pump and crawl space. China is welcome to monitor that and report anything interesting
vanontom@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Exactly. Don’t have cheap web cams pointed inside the home, and it’ll be fine. Have them outside, watching doors and gates, providing
securityvideos of shadows and wildlife, whatever. They can still be useful tools.
Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org 8 months ago
I disagree, you can't expect everyone to be technologically literate enough to understand the consequences of everything. And you can't palm it off by saying "well they need to/should". Much like expecting people to understand and read every single EULA that everyone always scrolls down and hits "accept"
At some point legislation needs to be drafted yo make it very clear the consequences, or legislate to ensure privacy so companies can't do this.AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Do you mean that Wyze has a self-hosted NVR option? If so, that’d be awesome for me…
circuscritic@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I was referring to those who use Wyze’s default cloud storage.
SOME Wyze models are compatible with 3rd party software/firmware to switch to a selfhosting model, but again, it depends on the model and firmware version.
jaschen@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Yes, all my V2s and even a v3 was able to run Frigate on Home Assistant.
Album@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
This is the exact same error that chatgpt had. Caching error letting you see other users stuff.
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 8 months ago
What’s that they say … there are three common errors in programming, catching and off by one errors?
Kissaki@feddit.de 8 months ago
The number of affected customers has grown from 14 to 13,000.
Finally back in the growth economy!
Wait…
boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They definitely saw Deez nuts
GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
This is why you don’t use any smart home devices, kids
solidgrue@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Oh, I use plenty of smart devices. I just make sure I select equipment that I can put on an isolated network without cloud access and operate through my self-hosted automation platform.
If it requires the cloud or a dedicated app for its basic setup and operation, its not getting installed here.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Works great on paper till you find the official API that can be used with open assistant is for licensed technicians only so you can only connect it to your server by giving your server access to the cloud app…
Looking at you Mitsubishi air conditioning unit with infrared scanner that is definitely not an old webcam up-cycled from some random warehouse.
GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
That’s a very good point but could you also tell me why do you need a smart home? I don’t understand the point of it
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have a friend who says literally every lightbulb in his house is smart. Literally everything of his is smart. I can’t do that shit. Scares me way too fuckin much.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Internet Of Things - where the “S” in the acronym stands for security…
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Maybe I want you to peek in…
Stegget@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve got several Wyze cams around my house and one inside facing the main living room/kitchen area. I realize it’s an imperfect system with flaws, but at the same time that living room camera is also the reason I was able to file abuse charges against my ex wife. Not a scenario I’d want anyone to deal with, but in my case it turned out to be some of the best money I’ve ever spent.
undercrust@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
No apology for Wyze’s breach, but only 1500 of the possible alerts for not-your-home were clicked on/viewed. Gotta love sensational headlines.
Also, if you’re using a cloud-based camera for private spaces? Well, that’s kinda a decision you made for yourself.
tabular@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have to assume these people don’t understand it, and would care to know this and hopefully learn that decision was a bad idea.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 months ago
Also, if you're using a cloud-based camera for private spaces? Well, that's kinda a decision you made for yourself.
Not even just cloud based.
I remember a decade or two ago a lot of security cameras were plugged into the regular network with enabled remote access. You could even find them through Google using specific search terms and a lot of them had either no or default logins configured. So you could basically spy into all sorts of peoples homes.
If I ever were to install cameras in my home, they'd be completely separated from everything else.Patches@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Well as long as it’s just briefly…
Diplomjodler@feddit.de 8 months ago
At this point I really don’t understand why anyone would put a camera in their home that’s connected to a server they don’t control.
teft@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Laziness. Most people don’t want to research everything needed to set up a self hosted camera system. Much easier to pop into Best Buy and grab a Wyze camera that works out of the box.
Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I wouldn’t call it lazy necessarily, everyone just has limited time and energy to invest in stuff and probably had no idea of the risks.
4am@lemm.ee 8 months ago
How do these people not realize that these cameras let other people to see into their homes?
This has happened SO. Many. Times.
agent_flounder@lemmy.world 8 months ago
More likely people lack the time.
Besides, expecting a security camera company to provide a decent quality product that doesn’t suffer egregiously serious breaches like Wyze has is not unreasonable. Idealistic, maybe; lacking an appropriately enormous degree of cynicism.
Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Don’t forget cost, I’m working on replacing mine, but a 30 dollar camera now being replaced by ones that cost around 100 each is just taking time. The ones I have outdoors I don’t really care about, but I’m working hard to replace all the indoor ones. For now all my indoor wyze cameras are on zigbee plugs that cut power when we’re home.
ThePantser@lemmy.world 8 months ago
For me it’s one less camera I have to run on my server that is already overwhelmed with the 12 other cameras that watch the outside. I have my wyze cams on sonoff minis that kill power to them unless I have my house set as away. I don’t need 247 recording of the inside just give me the option to peek in while away to see if anything is alarming.
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m sure I’m going to get some shit for this, but here we go! I own a wyzecam that I keep in (but due to lack of necessity will soon be removing from) my daughter’s room. We had it there just to check and see if she was asleep in her crib still without walking up the very creaky stairs/hall to her room.
It has pretty garbage resolution, has no sensitive information in frame, is not in a part of the house that anything can be overheard, and literally just shows a blurry image of our daughter’s bed.
I guess someone could theoretically sign in and…watch a 3 year old sleep? The worst case scenario I can imagine is someone using the speaker function to scare my kid, which would suck, but I think I can risk it.
PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Because zoneminder sucks and the other ones are kind of corporate and crappy?
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Zoneminder is damn good for the price. Mine has never had a data breach either. So there’s your downvote.