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Your AI Girlfriend Is a Data-Harvesting Horror Show

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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨FlyingSquid@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://gizmodo.com/your-ai-girlfriend-is-a-data-harvesting-horror-show-1851253284

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  • BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is why you should always selfhost your AI girlfriend.

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    • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Woah there, I’m not sure I’m ready for that level of commitment.

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      • foggy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I ain’t got that kinda GPU to spare. If it’s the games or my AI girlfriend…

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      • CouncilOfFriends@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’d have to actually test my backup strategy

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      • iquanyin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        🤣

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    • match@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d only date someone fully independent, so my AI joyfriend operates their own cloud cluster through a combination of a crypto wallet and findom

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      • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They sound fun

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      • iquanyin@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        🤣

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      • neutron@thelemmy.club ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m interested. So you rent a cluster to run an instance instead of self hosting?

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    • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think my wife is cheating on me with my self hosted AI girlfriend’s boyfriend that lives in the same database file. What do I do?

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      • AZERTY@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Delete system32 obviously

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      • Murdoc@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For as long as everyone is using a virus checker, maybe you could try an open source relationship.

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      • DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sounds like a job for Little Bobby Tables

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    • z00s@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’ll make you go blind

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      • RGB3x3@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And give you hairy palms

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    • yildolw@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Now consider the number of normal people in the world who do not have a server rack in their closet, and how much they are about to be defrauded and blackmailed

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
        • My Canadian Girlfriend

        Broke, Busted, Burned Out

        • My Canadian Server-Farm Girlfriend

        Smart, Sexy, Superconductive

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    • wabafee@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Let me go buy some milk.

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    • DarkThoughts@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You need a little gpu server farm for proper models & context sizes though. Single consumer gpus don't have enough vram for that.

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      • glowie@h4x0r.host ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Might as well just pay for a prostitute

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    • TakiMinase@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nvidia^TM

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    • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You have to at least move out of your AI parents’ server rack before letting your AI girlfriend move in.

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  • Gork@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are there any Open Source girlfriends that we can download and compile?

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    • herrcaptain@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hey now, I don’t want anyone looking at my girlfriend’s source code. That’s personal!

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      • demonsword@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t want anyone looking at my girlfriend’s source code

        it’s okay, dude, we all already did…

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    • DarkThoughts@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The bots (what the actual girlfriends or whatever other characters are) aren't the problem. You can find them on chub.ai for example or write them yourself fairly easily. The issue the software, and even more so the hardware. You need something like the mentioned Kobold.ccp or oobabooga, and then you'd also need a trained LLM model that you can get on huggingface.co, which is already where it gets complicated (they'll be loaded within kobold or oobabooga). You also need to understand how they work in regards to context sizes & bytes, because they need a lot, and I mean A LOT of vram to work properly. Basically, the more vram you have, the better the contextual understanding, their memory is. Otherwise you'd have a bot that maybe knows to only contextualize the last couple messages. For paid services like novelai.net you basically have your bots run through big ass server farms with lots of GPUs that bundle their vram and processing power, giving you "decent" context sizes (imo the greatest weak point of LLMs and it is deeply rooted in how they work) and decent speed. NovelAI also supports front-ends like SillyTavern which is great for local bot management and settings, regardless if you self host or use a paid service (NOT EVERY PAID SERVICE HAS AN API FOR THIS! OpenAI's ChatGPT technically does too but they do not allow NSFW content and can ban you for that if caught).
      There's a bunch of "free" online services too, like janitorai.com but most of them have slow speeds and the chat degrades significantly after just a few messages, because they have low context sizes. The better / paid models suffer from this degradation too but it is slower and less noticeable, at least at first. You can use that to get an idea of how LLMs work though.

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      • Gork@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Does it make it faster if the GPU has waifu stickers on it?

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      • SwampYankee@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Basically, the more vram you have, the better the contextual understanding, their memory is. Otherwise you’d have a bot that maybe knows to only contextualize the last couple messages.

        Hmm, if only there was some hardware analogue for long-term memory.

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    • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pretty easy to roll your own with Kobold.cpp and various open model weights found on HuggingFace.

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      • TipRing@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Also for an interface, I’d recommend KoboldLite for writing or assistant and SillyTavern for chat/RP.

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      • DarkThoughts@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I tried oobabooga and it basically always crashes when I try to generate anything, no matter what model I try. But honestly, as far as I can tell all the good models require absurd amounts of vram, much more than consumer cards have, so you'd need at least like a small gpu server farm to local host them reliably yourself. Unless of course you want like practically nonexistent context sizes.

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    • e-ratic@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ask Kreiger https://files.catbox.moe/e0i784.jpg

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    • itsAsin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i second this request. please

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      • DarkThoughts@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        See my other reply for some basic info & pointers.

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  • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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  • leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hey Sugar, which of these pics have traffic lights on them?

    bots gotta help each other

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  • TheFriar@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah. Saw that one coming.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Isn’t this what every app on your phone is already doing? Why would “AI Girlfriend App” be any better than Facebook or Google?

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      • mishielda1234@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s even more insidious because these apps ask for the data upfront under the guise of “getting to know you better”

        How can your AI girlfriend truly love you back unless you give it your real name, age, photos of your face, mother’s maiden name, social security number, and genetic material? /s

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      • TheFriar@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        lol it’s not. That’s the point. It’s all the same sort of companies putting these fucking things out. Google and Facebook are both working on their own AI. It’s been shown over and over how they’re scraping all available data—public or private when available—so why the fuck would a newer tech company be any different? It’s the state of capitalism. The markets are focusing more on hyper focused data, so that’s what any profitable tech company is doing. Invading your fucking privacy.

        That’s why it’s not a surprise. Because Facebook and google helped set the trend and determine the current tech market. And that’s the world these new “AI girlfriends” are existing in.

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      • averyfalken@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Idk all my apps are open source and most don’t connect to internet except ones that need it like eternity for reddit

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  • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Incels warned us about females

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As did Ferengi.

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      • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Giving the AI clothing was a mistake.

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  • drahardja@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I thought this was a new Chuck Tingle novel.

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    • dwemthy@lemdro.id ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pounded in the Butt by my Data Stealing AI Girlfriend

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    • BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fooled again, it’s Chuck Testa.

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    • Ozymati@lemmy.nz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He’s on social media. This could probably be arranged.

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  • TheOakTree@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    24 thousand tracker calls in one minute.

    That’s impressively gross.

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  • ivanafterall@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Like I could ever get an AI girlfriend. They'd never have me.

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    • NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You need Lucy Lou bot.

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      • SwampYankee@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s amazing the way you NOTICE TWO THINGS.

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  • maynarkh@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The entire internet is a data harvesting horror show. It’s good for the economy though, so we don’t do anything against it.

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  • Brutticus@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    this is the title of my next light novel

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  • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you not self-host your girlfriend, it is just prostitution. /s

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    • FaceDeer@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Indeed. She's not really your girlfriend unless you own her completely and can control everything she thinks.

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      • DarkThoughts@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        "AI" is funny anyway because you're basically gaslighting them the whole time to have them behave as they're supposed to.

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  • orbit@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People panned the game but this was the whole point of the NG Resonance character in Deus Ex Invisible War. People would basically tell this AI pop star intimate details about their lives and then the data was used to against them and their local communities.

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    • Murdoc@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I always wondered though, how many of those people were aware that it was an ai and not the real NG Resonance? (Have to admit, she did get me in trouble with the Omar. My bad. 😅)

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      • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The shit I do for a discount on non-PiezoChem functionality.

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      • orbit@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think they knew and it didn’t matter to them which is oddly prophetic when I look at the state of the world today lol

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not sure what kind of use collecting all my most fucked up thoughts can be.

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Either advertisers or the cops, possibly both want that information very much

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    • neptune@dmv.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Making a better chat bot AI girlfriend, informing porn directors, leaking it to the Russians,

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      • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Making a better chat bot AI girlfriend

        Cool.

        informing porn directors

        Neat.

        leaking it to the Russians

        My thoughts aren’t fucked up enough to be useful to them.

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  • autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    According to a new study from Mozilla’s *Privacy Not Included project, AI girlfriends and boyfriends harvest shockingly personal information, and almost all of them sell or share the data they collect.

    “Although they are marketed as something that will enhance your mental health and well-being, they specialize in delivering dependency, loneliness, and toxicity, all while prying as much data as possible from you.”

    Every single one earned the Privacy Not Included label, putting these chatbots among the worst categories of products Mozilla has ever reviewed.

    You’ve heard stories about data problems before, but according to Mozilla, AI girlfriends violate your privacy in “disturbing new ways.” For example, CrushOn.AI collects details including information about sexual health, use of medication, and gender-affirming care.

    One of the more striking findings came when Mozilla counted the trackers in these apps, little bits of code that collect data and share them with other companies for advertising and other purposes.

    EVA AI Chat Bot & Soulmate pushes users to “share all your secrets and desires,” and specifically asks for photos and voice recordings.

    The original article contains 545 words, the summary contains 177 words. Saved 68%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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  • Deceptichum@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My what now?

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  • nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    damn I was waiting for someone else to finally figure this out besides me I thought I was a genius or something

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  • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why don’t these people do what perfectly mentally unhealthy do and just abuse the super chat of your local vtuber?

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    • Asudox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At least the VTuber is a real human behind a anime figure.

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  • RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t realise they are that realistic.

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  • NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re just jealous of our love.

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  • thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can we please stop posting Gizmodo shit posts? It’s just pure garbage

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  • GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ROFL! There country be a more hilarious headline! I love it!

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