No. Please, no.
The Picard show was already dreadfully bad and has effectively destroyed TNG and Q for me, please let the dead body rest on piece, no more.
TrekMovie.com: Patrick Stewart Reveals New Star Trek Movie Script Featuring Jean-Luc Picard Is In The Works
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phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
ringwraithfish@startrek.website 10 months ago
Did you watch Season 3 of Picard?
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 10 months ago
It’s dreadful. Just gathering up the old cast for nostalgia sake. Quite an anticlimactic resolution to the enemy fight too.
Crankpork@beehaw.org 10 months ago
Season 3 worked because of the ensemble cast, though. The first two where it was “Picard and Friends” felt weird, and not like what anyone really wanted, and if this is another “Just Picard” thing it’s likely to end up the same.
halm@leminal.space 10 months ago
Oh man, I’d repressed the memory that Q was in s2 of Picard! I kind of liked the first season but the follow-ups were nostalgia dumpster fires. Literally what Sir PatStew said he didn’t want to make going into the show.
darkpanda@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I prefer to think that Picard is just still stuck in the Nexus and everything that has happened to him since has been a result of magic Nexus fever dreams.
Movie Picard and PIC Picard acted nothing like TNG Picard to the point where they were seemingly completely different people. Movie Picard wanted to make the Borg pay for what they did and literally beat in dead Borg with his fists and snapped the Borg queen’s spine in two with his bare hands while TNG Picard knew things weren’t that cut and dry and even had an opportunity to potentially genocide the works of them and didn’t because ethics and shit. Movie Picard would have drove Hugh up to their doorstep infected with the fractal virus the first chance he had.
PIC Picard… is literally an android I guess? But still old? They kind of ignored that later. So, literally he isn’t the same Picard as TNG Picard.
The Nexus is my head canon.
themoken@startrek.website 10 months ago
I… Don’t hate this. He meets Kirk too, which could be captain wish fulfillment. After his nephew is killed in such a stupid way he just exits reality and never returns.
First Contact, like you said, is revenge on the Borg and saving Earth.
Insurrection is then him inventing the perfect woman to save and finding the fountain of youth.
Nemesis he fights an evil, young version of himself, which has gotta be worth a few years of therapy.
zifnab25@hexbear.net 10 months ago
Picard was already bordering on elder abuse.
FaceDeer@kbin.social 10 months ago
I think it might be self-inflicted. Patrick Stewart is big enough that he can make it so with regard to the scripts. He's the one that insisted there be a dune buggy chase scene in Nemesis, for example. And he's pushed for more action and romance in the movies. I suspect that this is another case of a good actor or writer who works best when tempered by outside control.
Jaccident@startrek.website 10 months ago
I don’t know that insistence is the right way to phrase it. Sir Patrick and Brent Spiner are good friends, IIRC Nemesis was written by Spiner’s old flatmate and best friend. As such the wants of the actors started creeping into the scripts, not out of insistence per se, but perhaps more out a natural affect of a close working relationship. Sometimes a healthy distance is most important between a writer’s room, and the cast.
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I gave up watching Picard at the end of Season 1 after they kill Picard and replace him with an android. If it’s not actually Jean-Luc, I’m not interested. And I’m definitely not interested in returning to Picard’s universe with all of those boring ass characters if it means that they’ll do another time-travel plotline to save his life. Yawn.
graded6827@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Season 1 and 2 sucked ass, but season 3 is actually pretty great and you can watch it as a stand alone without really needing to watch the previous 2 seasons.
shartedchocolate@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Season 1 was such absolute dog shit. The orbital defense flowers, “JL” etc… but yeah, S3 feels like Kurtzman got kicked in the sack and someone else made Picard. I recommend watching S3 and forgetting the other two were ever made.
Also in S1 Jean Luc Picard picked a bar fight. The person that had his dick dragged through a mile of broken glass getting killed by a Nossican over and over in a bar fight, went to pick a bar fight. What was that show?
Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I strongly disagree. It had promise, but was ultimately very stupid. The entire show uses “Borg” as an excuse to explain away ridiculous concepts that are far-fetched and more akin to magic than technology.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
season three was passable at best. people only say it was good because the first two were so unbelievably dogshit
xilliah@beehaw.org 10 months ago
I tried but it feels so shallow.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Picard had a lot of promise, and they almost got it, but overall it was trash IMO. More Star Wars and hand waiving than Trek. It was a beautifully made universe, the SFX were superb, but they seemed to spent all their time and money on that, and none on dialogue or character consistency. Picard is nothing of his former self. He spends three seasons whining and complaining rather than commanding. The writers invent a traumatic backstory for him, depicting his authoritative personality as a character flaw as a result of trauma, rather than a strength of character. I rather disliked what they did to him.
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Season 2 was arguably worse.
bababooey@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Will skip this if it gets made. All good things for Picard really came to an end after that episode.
themoken@startrek.website 10 months ago
This is First Contact erasure and I won’t stand for it.
simonzerafa@infosec.exchange 10 months ago
Unless this new movie is frankly outstanding it won't beat First Contact.
I do wish Paramount would concentrate on a Captain Seven series though 🙄🖖
spiderkle@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
S03 was the movie we never got, they just need to leave this one alone. It’s most likely being talked about because Picard S03 got the best ratings of all the new Trek shows. But it was already quite a perfect ending. We don’t need another Picard movie, Trek needs to continue on the small screen with #StarTrekLegacy.
someguy3@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Did not expect that.
Potatisen@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I thought we had seen it all.
paddirn@lemmy.world 10 months ago
“Yes, and she’s scrabbling around to get them back on again, but even before she can get her knickers on, I’ve seen everything. Yeah. I’ve seen it all.”
ikilledlaurapalmer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
But I’ve seen everything anyway. And I get on my bike and I ride off. On the grass.
johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 10 months ago
TBH, i never seem to like anything thats made after Voyager or Nemesis. And i understand it, the new movies and new series are made for a different (broader) audience, so it needs splendor and lots of shooting, but to me thats not what Star Trek was about.
Ive always hoped they’d make a serie with the USS Prometheus, but alas! I’ll just keep rewatching Voyager and DS9 untill i die, i guess.
c10l@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Strange New Worlds has been quite good tbh.
Picard has its moments as well. It’s more valuable as a TNG revival than as a whole new ST work but it’s not bad, especially the last season.
Discovery is one of the worst sci-fi ever produced though, so definitely stay away from it.
graded6827@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Glad to see someone else hating on discovery, on the Star Trek subreddit everyone’s obsessed with it and I thought it was hot garbage
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m OK with this, people shit on Star Trek Picard but I still thought it was alright despite the departure from more traditional Trek.
VerseAndVermin@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I watched the first season and liked it. The fan service didn’t feel so bad. Season twos portrayal by half way through of an old enemy felt too casual to me and I tapped out. Is season 3 worth a whirl of two stopped me?
aniki@lemm.ee 10 months ago
The third season isn’t as good as 1 but its clear and away better than 2 by a huge margin and has some extremely fantastic emotional payoffs.
dmonzel@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Season 3 is literally just fan service. They reused the V’Ger sound/theme for the enemy. They brought back a character from another show in the franchise. They brought back a character who appeared in two whole episodes of TNG. Large parts of the sound design were lifted from the TNG-era series. Seriously, almost as much fan service as Lower Decks.
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 10 months ago
I heard only last night about a script that is being written, but written specifically with the actor, Patrick [Stewart], to play in it. And I’ve been told to expect to receive it within a week or so.
Notably, that week was several weeks ago:
TrekMovie has confirmed with Josh Horowitz that this interview was recorded in early November as Stewart was out promoting his new memoir, Making It So.
Rom@hexbear.net 10 months ago
Please just fucking retire TNG already. It’s time to move on.
Corgana@startrek.website 10 months ago
My instinct is to agree with you but I also felt the same way when they announced Star Trek VI and that’s the best Trek film of all time.
feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
He’ll die before it happens. Don’t think people realise quite how old the guy is. I love him to bits but it’s like David Attenborough, just let the man rest, he’s given us enough.
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
He’s not on contract. He wants to do Star Trek.
feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And I hope he continues.
MrDodel@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Shhhh, the reaper has hopefully forgotten about these two and Morgan freeman.
c10l@lemmy.world 10 months ago
He’s 83. Definitely old but I wouldn’t write him off anytime soon.
feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Huh, I actually thought he was older than that. That’s reassuring.
7of9@startrek.website 10 months ago
If this thread is anything to go by, me and my other half were the only people on the planet that actually enjoyed Picard S1 and 2, and didn’t like S3 as much.
In that spirit, if a film is made I look forward to enjoying it even if I’m the only one.
ursakhiin@beehaw.org 10 months ago
I enjoyed all 3 seasons of Picard. I’ll likely enjoy this movie. It’s always a joy to see Patrick Stewart in a dramatic role.
7of9@startrek.website 10 months ago
Well, I’m glad it wasn’t just me, lol … I figured some people must have enjoyed it otherwise they’d have left it at one season!
astroPug@hachyderm.io 10 months ago
I'll raise my hand and say that I actually enjoyed all three seasons. I felt like 1 and 2 had a sense of melancholy at times, but that was welcome. Kind of felt right at that time in my life.
3 I really liked for the interpersonal relationships, and that sense of wonder in space.7of9@startrek.website 10 months ago
Well, 1 and 2 both dealt with deep themes of grief and generational trauma … I appreciated that they tried to write a story with a deep meaning to it, even if it didn’t 100% work it was better than a lot of the recent things I’ve watched
Fades@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I liked all 3, 3 being hit or miss but overall enjoyable for me. Season 2 had a lot of fun parts
7of9@startrek.website 10 months ago
The thing I liked with 1 and 2 was that they both tried to tackle big ideas of past trauma, even if it didn’t come out well the big thinking was in there while a lot of recent things I’ve watched has felt skin deep at best
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
i will always love a new picard movie since i have memories of watching tng with my dad but i still want them to make star trek legacy
aniki@lemm.ee 10 months ago
You know they have to use the bridge a lot more than one single episode. It was always part of the plan.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 months ago
The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website
You’re back baby!
The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 10 months ago
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s the one and only. You’re my hero, Picard.
Nacktmull@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Yawn
ulkesh@beehaw.org 10 months ago
I think this is great and anything I can see Patrick Stewart in, I will. I don’t share the opinion that Picard series was bad. I don’t see Picard as a one-dimensional must always be the same character. People change over time. And Picard has also changed. Like it or not.
Bring on the movie!
SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org 10 months ago
I have two reasons to not write this off:
- Picard S2 would have been just fine as a 2-or-3-part episode, and not a 10-episode full season.
- The first 4 episodes of Picard S3, watched together by themselves, become the second-best TNG movie (after First Contact of course).
If they were announcing Picard season 4 I’d just groan and ignore it. But I think the cast and crew could actually pull off a decent 1.5-2 hours of good entertainment.
simonzerafa@infosec.exchange 10 months ago
@SteleTrovilo @USSBurritoTruck
We really need the follow Captain Seven series. Episodic in a similar way to Strange New Worlds with the option for longer story arcs where needed 🙂🤷♂️
SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org 10 months ago
We basically need more Jeri Ryan, in any context. And “Crash” LaForge should be there, she was fun too. Just definitely don’t use the same writers from PIC.
Infynis@midwest.social 10 months ago
I hope this is his swan song. Patrick Stewart is amazing, and I love Captain Picard, but he’s not Harrison Ford. The franchise will be fine without him. We don’t need to play out Too Short a Season in real life
EarMaster@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Three seasons of PIC were already a mistake. The only good thing coming from it is the possibility of a Riker cooking/baking show (which I would totally watch).
Apollonius_Cone@lemmy.world 10 months ago
In rewatching the original series and TNG thereafter, the consistent factor, regardless of the early special effects, was the scripts. The dialogue was always great. In ST: Picard, the dialogue is trash.
Avigrace@lemmy.world 10 months ago
2 seasons were a mistake and by far the worst trek seasons from any show, the third season while being massive fan service was just what I seemingly wanted as I loved every second and was a great ending to the TNG crew
richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 10 months ago
The sitcom The Rikers as pitched by Sirtis and Frakes would have been better that the three seasons of Picard, frankly.
ursakhiin@beehaw.org 10 months ago
I think the difference between Stewart and Ford is that Stewart seems more to be doing it because he enjoys this character. Ford seems to be doing it in spite of his feelings.
As long as Stewart is still having fun, I’m happy with him continuing as long as he wants.