Even the Tesla Cybertruck's Brake Lights Don't Make Sense

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• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wow, what a dumb design. It actually looks less like it’s braking with the brake lights on.

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  • andthenthreemore@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t get how that’s legal in some parts of the world.

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    • mycatiskai@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      American manufacturing don’t want to have to change anything in their production lines so most American cars have only a red taillight that flashes the same bulk for brakes and turn signal.

      It is lazy and unsafe but it would probably cost a few pennies to have an orange turn signal light so it is more profit not to do it.

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    • lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mixed brake and turn signals are not legal in several EU countries.

      It’s been an issue with imported Jeep Wrangler US models, which run afoul not only of not having separate brake and turn lights but also not meeting spec about minimum surface of brake lights.

      Some people were skirting around the regulations by registering them as off-road vehicles but those have to meet specific criteria (such as not being used primarily as a cool ride in the middle of an urban area…)

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    • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It would not be in Germany AFAIK. But there’s also no chance it’ll ever come out over here, and frankly trying to sell a pretty is a tall order here. Nevermind something with a design only it’s deranged nazi inventor could love, if even that.

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    • UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Im not even sure its legal in the US.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My model 3 has red turn signals. Model Y? Literally exact same taillights? Yellow. Model S? Yellow. Model X? Yellow.

    Why!?

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    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why!?

      It’s called mood swings IIRC :-)

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    • lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Aren’t there US states that require red turn signals to pass inspection?

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    • Sarcastik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      $

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  • variaatio@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Specially in say foggy conditions and little bit distance. At which point you won’t clearly maybe differentiate individual elements and more like that’s the rear and “block of light in middle, left and right”. At which point it all little blending one might infact be under impression “the light intensity lowered at the rear, huh, not braking then, did they have they parking break dragging they released or something… ohhhjj shuiiiiiit no it is braking hard”.

    My two cents from here north of Europe and land of snow, rain, fog and occasional white out conditions.

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  • UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I know! Lets make the “brake lights” just be the normal tail lights turning off. It’ll look way cooler that way!

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    • xthexder@l.sw0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s honestly amazing because a decent amount of work had to go into making the brake lights work like this. The number of people involved who didn’t notice or care how bad this is, is baffling…

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• Mandy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Someone actually bought this n64 piece of shit?

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  • A7thStone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    N64 had more polygons than that. This thing is more like a virtualboy game, and it gives you a migraine when you look at it just like virtualboy.

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    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I remember the virtualboy and the dire warnings that we were told about it.

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  • ours@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A now ex-colleague pre-ordered straight away. It came up during a lunch discussion where he was convinced Teslas (which he owned) were at a more advanced self-driving class (3 or 4 versus the actual 2).

    Some people really drank the Musk Coolaid and that was back before he went full-on alt-right troll.

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  • RealAndOfficial@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It totally reminds me of playing Deathtrack on my 1989 PC. Especially Preying Menace’s car… Preying Menace’s car

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  • Tronn4@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It should come with an expansion pack to get rid of the sharp edges

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    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That will take the 32-bit hardware upgrade.

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    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      to get rid of the sharp edges

      Or you blow a little air into it…

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  • Uniquitous@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    More like Atari Jaguar or the 3DO. Absolute trash.

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  • r00ty@kbin.life ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Actually kinda reminds me of the cars you see in the old arcade game Hard Drivin.

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• indigomirage@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Image

  This comes to mind.

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  • Assman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If the Homer and Canyonero had a baby

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    • indigomirage@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts! Canyonero…🎵🎵🎵”

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• bemenaker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  everything about this truck is ugly, and fucked up. Just scrap it and start over.

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  • TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m convinced that Elon himself drew a shitty sketch for the truck on a napkin and said “make it exactly how I drew it!” and they did unfortunately.

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    • zaphod@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m convinced it’s worse than that. I think he originally drew this thing when it was six years old and never lost the obsession with his little crayon and fingerprint creation. It was also at that time that he became obsessed with the letter X because he loved pirates and treasure maps.

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    • Pete90@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Remember when Homer designed a car?

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    • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Malicious Compliance.

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    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think he learned a 3D modeling program like just enough

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  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It looks like an uglier version of the Aztec, and that’s really saying something

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    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think the CAD program they uaed for design was based on the Logo language.

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    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Funny enough the Aztec has this cult following now

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  • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I actually love the way it can look in some of the promo materials and concept art. They should have left it as a concept car and showed it off at events and shit. The things that make it work as a concept, like the striking geometry under certain lighting at specific angles, I haven’t seen a pic of it on the road that looks cool yet. The smaller details like these lights take away from the minimalist geometry and make it look messy and busy instead of sleek and weird, and it just looks like a bunch of rectangles haphazardly arranged.

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    • bemenaker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good concepts look good on the road. They have all the lights worked out. You’re proving the point this is a bad design. Leave it a rudimentary sketch and never building it, means it’s a bad design.

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• ButtholeSpiders@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That looks like a shitty future car mock-up for a late 80’s future/action movie. Like Robocop or an Arnold movie 🤣 Only Elon would fund something this unappealing.

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  • NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Much like naming a company “X”

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    • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe he’s hoping people will start calling him the X-man.

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  • UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It looks like something RIGHT out of Robocop, which is funny because the stupid fucking cars was actually a point of satire in that movie.

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    • ButtholeSpiders@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think Elon missed the the obvious joke, as per usual lol

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• Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ok call me crazy but wouldn’t the requirements be written in law? I’d expect in many countries it simply wouldn’t be able to be sold.

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  • jve@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    From the article

    The Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards regulate taillight design, mandating minimum area, placement, quantity, and visibility according to vehicle category, dimensions, and weight. However, the FMVSS does not appear to prohibit deactivating taillights during braking, so the Cybertruck’s taillights as seen here seem to be legal—even if they are perplexing, and potentially dangerous.

    I still can barely believe this thing is real, and not something out of a bad 90s movie where video game characters come into the real world.

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    • Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I was more meaning in a wider sense. A car manufacturer who can’t sell their cars outside the US is shooting themselves in the foot.

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    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can. Look at that weird VR thing Facebook tried. No one says no to these people the result is they just go with any sci-fi movie they liked.

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  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As with most laws, first someone has to do something really stupid for others to say “we should probably write this down in the rule book and not allow others to do this.”

    Elon and his designers are basically doing things that other car designers aren’t dumb enough to do.

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    • Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But there are countries all around the world. You can find yourself a loophole in one country but then you can’t sell your car in all the countries that loophole doesn’t exist

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But they’ve been doing the same dumb shit with brake and turn signals for decades and no one has done anything about it. They’ll have one set for Europe to comply with local regulations and then design and engineer a whole other set for the US just to have the wrong colors.

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  • Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes they need to be separate lights and yellow here in NZ. We mostly follow japan’s car safety rules so probably the same in many countries

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    • Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yellow? Brake lights are red, reversing lights white (which could be considered yellow).

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• ryan@the.coolest.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There's a video in the article and... oof, that's good to know in case I end up behind one. It's definitely a bit confusing and likely won't alert distracted drivers because the red light is always present. (Not that drivers should be distracted on the road, but it happens often.)

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  • nothing@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We’ll turn off the lights to show just the brake lights! Brilliant!

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thanks for specifically mentioning that there was a video. I’d glanced at the article, didn’t see a video and left. Had to click the extra link!

    Looking at that, I almost feel like it could be pretty cool if instead of what actually happens, that middle part that stays lit up was actually a LED display that flashes the word braking.

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• quinkin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It must “look like the future”…

  I guess, if you are stuck thinking the 80’s are the future.

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  • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The Huyndai N vision 74 looks like the 80’ future, and it looks amazing.

    The Cybertruck just looks like a bad Playstation 1 game model.

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    • Sylvartas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, it also looks like “80’s future” aesthetics but unlike the cybertruck, it does looks amazing

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    • Iamdanno@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you take the wing and ground effects off, it looks like a 30 year old Toyota Supra.

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  • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Back to the future. Since the thing looks like an ugly DeLorean on steroids.

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• zaphod@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is what happens when you think you’re smarter than decades of vehicle safety design. Elon Musk is truly a dumb person’s idea of a smart person.

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  • Yawnder@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It just makes that vehicle illegal to drive in Canada with its gate open. Or maybe even illegal to be sold here.

    YES!

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• scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They say they have a million preorders…

  I ordered a Tesla S way back in the day when it was a 6 month wait. I had to put down a $2000 deposit. But I got it all back when I cancelled the order a few months later.

  So I have to wonder what those million preorders actually mean. Because boy howdy people are going to have some fucking buyer’s remorse once these eyesores start shipping.

  They make the Pontiac Aztec look good. And that’s saying something!

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  • MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Love that Walter White had the Aztec pre-Heisenberg. Went well with the character at that time.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The deposit was only $250, fully refundable, so there was no reason not to. At the time, there were no EV pickups, so this was announced to be first, and starting price target was $39k.

    So now, it’s not first but last to release, price is way higher, and it’s not coming together as expected. I wish they’d stop reminding people about the preorders because they’re going to lose a lot of them

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    • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And if the million preorders did hold up, it would still be bad for them because they’ll need two years to produce them all.

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• UnspecificGravity@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That is insane. The “brake lights” are effectively just the regular tail lights turning OFF and being replaced with smaller less bright lights. That is assinine.

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• applejacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  please god stop with the elon musk headlines

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  • naticus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This may actually be important if you end up behind one of these. Besides, this isn’t specifically about Elon so maybe make your whining relevant.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s nothing about Elon Musk in the headlines…

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  • antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Some lemmy clients allow filters by word. I have those two names filtered (Memmy app). I still ended up here but this article doesn’t mention those names so, no complaints. Maybe you need filters for Tesla, SpaceX, and X in addition to those I mentioned.

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    • KevonLooney@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same here. Getting rid of fat head makes the Internet much better.

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    • applejacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sadly, the actual site does not have this functionality.

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• ram@bookwormstory.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hey, I found the driver!
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• rustbuckett@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I legit didn’t think this thing was real.

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• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m not the biggest fan of modern car desing in the first place, but these unibrow head- and tail lights are definitely among what I take the most issue with. I’m not sure if I’ve seen one car on which they look good. Not that it really concerns me as someone driving only +10 year old vehicles but if by some miracle I aquired one of these the first thing I would to is to lift the tailgate and hood and cut the wires to these lights only leaving the ones in the corners.

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  • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    911, g wagon. Look great.

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• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’d rather have a Nissan Cube, or a PT Cruiser, than this shitty thing.

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  • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You know I was about say I really like the kia soul thinking that is surely what you meant since I have never heard of a car called Cube before… And then I looked it up first.
    And giggled for a few minutes on the couch like an idiot.

    That is such a derpy car. Thank you.

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• synapse1278@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why the F isn’t the brake light at the top of the read windshield like any other car ? Well, it was probably not easy to CAD on a Sony PS1, they had to make compromised.

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