YouTube cracking on ad blockers.

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• fosforus@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh no, I will have to do something useful with my time instead of watching 100 videos after each other. WHAT WILL I DO

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  • TimeSquirrel@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You know, not all of us watch bullshit on YouTube. There is good science and engineering content on there.

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    • papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you’re primarily interested in the science and engineering content, nebula is a wonderful platform where membership fees directly support content creators.

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  • aceshigh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    one way to look at it is a blessing in disguise. instead of dissociating with YT, now you have all this time to figure out who you actually are and then become that thing. i imagine it’s more rewarding than passively watching YT.

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    • Indicah@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because hobbies don’t exist? Only jobs?

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    • Muyal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What comments like this fail to understand is that people sometimes like to do nothing with their free time.

      YouTube became as popular as it is because it fulfilled a necessity, for good or bad

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  • Dra@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It sounds like you algorithmically encourage this content too

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    • fosforus@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, I’m the victim here, helpless to do anything but click click click

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• laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Look this is different than pirating a game or bypassing a newspaper paywall. Watching content on YouTube simply costs money to YouTube. It’s not like torrenting a game or movie, where while you haven’t paid for the content, it didn’t cost anything to the owner other than theoretical revenue. And it’s not like bypassing a newspaper paywall, either, where the cost to the newspaper to serve you the story is practically negligible and the real costs are fixed and not related to how many people actually read the story.

  Hosting video costs money and nobody can replace YouTube’s massive library or realistically replicate their business model. I mean just look at image/gif hosting sites, they constantly go bust like Photobucket because storing everyone’s pictures forever and for free isn’t not a real business model.

  YouTube needs to be paid for its gonna go the way of Photobucket.

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  • Fades@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Corpo shill

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    • Taringano@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Só your solution is instead of charging the viewer charge who? The person that puts videos up?

      Do you really think your anonymized user data is worth the 20 bucks/user the YouTube premium costs?

      In your mind YouTube can just sell the data for the 2 billion users they have and instantly make 40 billion dollars a month from that?

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Google has billions. YouTupe pirates (can we call ourselves that yet?) are not going to bankrupt Google. In fact, they’ll spend more on their crackdown.

    But Google is beholden to its shareholders, whose interests are diametrically opposed to that of the general public, so any gain by Google is a loss to the rest of us.

    So any profit we can deny the Google machine remains instead in the economy, rather than vaulted in offshore accounts or used to further lock down the empires of the shareholders.

    The day I can’t watch YouTube sans commercials is the day I quit watching YouTube. And then it will get absolute-zero engagement from me.

    So bring it. I do not need YouTube, and it needs viewers like me.

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  • Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Good luck trying to talk about this with any amount of reason.

    I’m a pirate, I understand what I’m doing is defrauding the tos of a mega corporation. I UNDERSTAND that and IM DOING IT ON PURPOSE.

    But it seems like most of the people here are just going to hurl insults at you and call you a shill because you laid it out as “this cost money and the business needs money to even do it”. This is how “free” services have always worked. They aren’t a fucking charity.

    I don’t like ads so I do everything in my power to not see ads. Once they kill ReVanced and they start banned Google accounts, I’ll just stop using YouTube unless I have a specific tutorial need.

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  • manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Let it die. Creators will go elsewhere. We need to shake up the ancien regime a bit

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    • laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Go where? The only companies that can afford to do unlimited video forever for everyone are the likes of Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta tried to steal VOD watchers from YouTube years ago, they failed. Amazon tried to get into VOD via Twitch, they gave up. Microsoft tried to come after Twitch with Mixer, they failed. Moreover, a lot of the things we hate about youtube like poor content moderation, the copyright system, demonetization, etc arent youtubes fault. The broken copyright system is just a result of what copyright law is, it’d probably be worse on a different site since they wouldn’t have the special agreement YouTube has with major copyright holders to serve as an intermediary. Instead of content strikes, or an ad revenue claim, that youtube has the special power to do, you’d just default to DMCA takedowns for everything immediately. And yeah content moderation and demonetization is bad but Youtube never wanted to do this right? They were happily showing ads on ISIS videos, its advertisers that forced them, which is how we ended up with a system that randomly pulls ads from videos if there is a hint of something an ad agency would object too. I mean it’s either this or advertisers don’t advertise at all, which fucks everyone, instead of a few people.

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    • Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And are you going to pay to host the petabytes of 4K content? Or are you going to expect other people to pay that when these creators jump ship?

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  • MayvisDelacour@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Does that boot taste good or something?

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  • notintonsfw@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Everything has to be free; I won’t pay a dime. If anyone tries to make money (aka any business), they are evil.

    • Lemmy

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  • tyrant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Google would never give up on a project!

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• zcd@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fuck youtube

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• b0gl@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “allowlisted” topkek

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• Suavevillain@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hold the line uBlock Origin. If YT becomes unusable, I’ll find somewhere to binge-watch true crime videos at 3am.

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  • DancingIsForbidden@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    just get freetube, it’s FOSSome, you don’t even need a Google account.

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• deez_ballzzz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah. This is becoming a problem with Google. Whatever they have created they just want to make it shit. Like everybody can’t just pay and the amount of ads just makes it unwatchable.

  On my firefox this rarely shows up though. I use the privacy extensions uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes.

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• Metatronz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Eh, don’t need YouTube that badly. I think we’ll collectively figure out video distribution without em just fine.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I haven’t seen anything come close to competing with youtube as a centralized video source. Everything from documentaries to DIY instructional videos. Sure the idea seems simple but the problem is their success and vast repository keeps us locked in.

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    • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It is more that we, as users, have become a lot more lazy.

      It was rare for one company to host most of the content. Instead, content would be distributed across different websites.

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    • Metatronz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not sure your age and I sincerely do not want to critique it either or come across as ageist, but I remember a world without YouTube and all this crap. We’re going to be ok if we don’t go to YouTube. Not trying to be flippant - really. I understand the monopolistic conundrum we find ourselves in.

      This is where voting and advocating for real legal solutions comes in. Is that easy - no. However there has been progress in the EU and Warren/Cruz are sponsoring a digital rights bill too. If that fails, we keep pushing. It is possible and the encouraging part is that the more they (Google, fb, Amazon, etc.) reveal of their trap the easier it will be for us to pressure politicians.

      Younger folks have allies in older non techy people too. Those folks feel bewildered by their phones, computers, etc. Politicians certainly listen to them and if they have their grandchildren agreeing with them that tech companies are crazy. I almost guarantee they’d agree. See Elizabeth Warren and Ted Cruz co-sponsorship as some evidence. Talk to folks y’all!

      Also, your library has a lot of content if you are looking for documentaries.

      Kind of sounds like you have tried nothing and you’re all out of ideas. Can’t say I blame you. Complacency and feelings of no way out is where they want you.

      Spolier monopolies! No one changes until they are under pressure and feel trapped. They’re feeding the fire of their own undoing.

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• Grant_M@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  #BoycottGoogle

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Everyone go back to Yahoo and Ask Jeeves!

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• SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A good ad blocker would be one that will still load the page as intended but not display the ads. There would be no way for the site to know you can’t see them. Blocking their activation just signals the site that you are using an adblocker.

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  • piecat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sandbox the ads. Trick them into thinking the playback is finished. If there is a timer that prevents skipping, modify timing calls to shorten the duration. Or execute faster than real-time.

    If there is some kind of timer callback to server, it would even be preferable to have ad “running” invisibly with a progress bar and no ad.

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    • Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Honestly, I’d tolerate an adless grey timer, you don’t even have to trick it that fine has passed.

      Just open in another tab, wait for skip option, skip (but probably not in a perfectly timed robotic way), then pause. Grey and silent midroll would be annoying but still tolerable.

      People who know programming and how far it can go seem to sometimes trap themselves in very difficult problems that would be great to solve, but undervalue a version without that complicated luxury.

      I’m all for trying to solve it, but a tool that doesn’t is still good. I just don’t want to be aware of what the companies want to make me aware of.

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    • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That is really what I was thinking of

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  • AustralianSimon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That would be rendering potentially malicious code in the ad.

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    • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sandbox them

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  • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A good ad blocker would be one that will still load the page as intended

    One could make a strong argument that the creators of the page intended the page to show ads.

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    • Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think he means that a good adblocker should load the page as intended with the ads and then simply discard them before rendering the page.

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• CCF_100@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lmao 🤣 reek.github.io/anti-adblock-killer/

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  • KneeTitts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    holy crap that one works great!

    (youtube has come to your house and taped your mouth shut)

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• Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  ITT: People upset that free things don't last forever.

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  • Synthead@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Imagine if a newspaper could block you from reading an article because you didn’t spend enough time looking at the ads.

    After the content gets delivered to my browser, it’s up to me how I want to consume that content. Anything that happens beyond that point is client-side. If I choose to pay attention to ads on purpose, that’s my choice. If I accept the webserver’s response and choose to view only parts of what I got, then that’s my choice, too.

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    • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Imagine if a newspaper could block you from reading an article because you didn’t spend enough time looking at the ads.

      You pay for newspapers, though.

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    • papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Don’t …plenty of digital newspapers block you from reading the article if you don’t pay up?

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    • newIdentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Imagine if a newspaper could block you from reading an article because you didn’t spend enough time looking at the ads.

      They do that though. Most even require you to accept their cookies, pay or not be able to read the article at all.

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    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Imagine if a newspaper could block you from reading an article because you didn’t spend enough time looking at the ads.

      That’s a bad comparison. Newspapers cost money so you either buy one or you don’t read the articles. Even in the case of free ones they’re littered with ads. You don’t need to watch them but they’re still there.

      I hate what youtube s doing just as much as the next guy but I’m yet to hear a convincing argument as to why it should be free. Many of the people complaining about this are gladly paying for Spotify and Netflix. Why not demand those for free too?

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Imagine if a newspaper could block you from reading an article because you didn’t spend enough time looking at the ads.

      I don’t have to imagine. Many newspaper websites are exactly like that.

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  • serratur@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Its free because they sell user data, I’m not gonna have them sell my data and pay them for doing that.

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Could we stop saying they sell user data? That’s not what’s happening. They collect that data because it’s useful. Their business model relies on not selling your data. The way it works is they collect and hoard your data and then use that data and their algorithms to target you with ads. Ad companies pay them to target demographics like women between the ages of 18-25 or men between the ages of 40-60 with ads based on things they watch on YouTube, emails they send or receive, other ads they’ve clocked on, and most importantly items they have searched for. In conjunction with data from the phones around you (other people you visit or live with etc).

      This is about as companies paying google to target you with ads. It absolutely is not about google selling your data. That data is valuable to them because of their business model. And they literally need to hoard it. Amazon and Apple and Microsoft do the same thing.

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  • manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Google employees are out in full force it seems

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    • Chozo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      "He doesn't agree with my unrealistic expectations of the world, must be a corporate shill!"

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  • SaltyLemon66@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    All these platforms like youtube, facebook, twitter don’t make any sense from a financial standpoint. Their model was fucked from the start and only now are we seeing the consequences.

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• pixelscience@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is only the 3764th post about his this week…

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  • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And I will gladly read 3,764 posts more.

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    • letsgo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be the man who read 7,528 posts to fall down at your door

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    • xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be a man whode read 3765 posts is more than I asked for.

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• lwuy9v5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/…/libredirect/

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• aeharding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  More PeerTube please!

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• floppade@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Been getting that lately after successfully avoiding it for a bit. Just not gonna use it directly anymore.

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• hddsx@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is this fake? I thought the term is whitelisted not allowlisted

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  • alianne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In recent years there’s been a shift from “white/black list” to “allow/block list” in an effort to avoid the stereotypes associated with those terms. I wouldn’t say it’s the new norm yet, but it’s slowly becoming more popular.

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    • Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, basically the demand for hate outstrips the supply, so they decided that whitelist/blacklist is racist. Its just a power trip, being able to change peoples vocab with nonsense.

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    • hddsx@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ah like the master/slave becoming server/client?

      I still don’t like allow list though. Block list seems fine. Maybe access list?

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    • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hate that.

      With flying they changed NOTAM from notices to airmen to notices to air missions or something.

      Calm tf down. Will they change Human to hupersons next? Man-made to huperson-made? GTFO here.

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• Smacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I LOVE SUBSCRIPTION BASED SERVICES

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  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Drink verification can.

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• worsedoughnut@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do we really need a new post about this, with the same screenshot, every time it happens to someone for the first time?

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• shashi154263@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Someone please make an extension so it automatically redirects to piped.video or something else.

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  • ailurophilly@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    you can use extension made by creator of pipedPiped Redirects

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    • techognito@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I recommend LibRedirect instead. It can redirect to both invidious and piped, as well as working for other services. e.g., Twitter → Nitter, Reddit → teddit, and many more

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  • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use Redirector for that.

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  • KneeTitts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    greasyfork.org/…/477267-youtube-add-watch-on-pipe…

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  • veloxization@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Such extensions exist already. Privacy Redirect lets you choose where to redirect YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, Google Translate, Google Maps etc. links. c:

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    • ailurophilly@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      privacy redirect isnt maintained anymore you can use libredirect instead it’s a fork of privacy redirect

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  • Brutticus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Libredirect

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• LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Pay?

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  • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hello, you must be new here. We don’t like to be held accountable for anything and simply vocalize all our problems in an echo chamber where we collectively agree that other people should be held accountable instead. I hope this offers some context for the downvotes.

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    • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Meanwhile, at expensive private schools across the world, budding young neoliberals are being taught there is nothing more reprehensible than not milking every possible person of every possible penny.

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• dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I will happily either find an alternative frontend, or just stop watching youtube all together. It’s done nothing good to my life either way

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• sugartits@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll look forward to reading this yet again next week, alongside all the entitlement in the comments section that seem to think running YouTube is free and recommending trash alternatives which have less than 1% of YouTube’s content and don’t even work.

  See you next week!

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• doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  For me the solution is to just log out and only login to comment or watch shorts.

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• nostradiel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Every day same post complaining about this…

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• Hairy_MacBoon@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Okay, I don’t ever see this problem. Using Brave and uBlock origin in Firefox. Maybe just update your filters once in a while?

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• deez_ballzzz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah. This is becoming a problem with Google. Whatever they have created they just want to make it shit. Like everybody can’t just pay and the amount of ads just makes it unwatchable.

  On my firefox this rarely shows up though. I use the privacy extensions uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes.

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• Infinity187@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have yet to see anything like this with my adblocker.

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• UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fortunately I haven’t gotten any warnings but my dad did last night. I cleared ublock’s cache and updated the lists. Hopefully it works.

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• Solrac@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is why we use Frontends… NewPipe, FreeTube, Invidious, Piped, etc c: Otherwise the nuclear option; "mpv youtu.be/url"

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• dynamojoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Originally there was an X. Now I have to wait a few seconds before I can click the X. This pause gives me time to think if I really need to watch this video, which more and more often is turning into a “not really”.

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